channel 4 have commissioned a study into attitudes among british muslims.. the documentary starts in an hour from now at 10pm.
if you watch it live or on 4od please share your thoughts.. unlike many other surveys of muslim opinion, which have predominantly been done by phone or online, icm used face-to-face, in-home research to question a representative sample of 1,000 muslims across great britain.
icm also used a “control sample” to compare what british muslims thought with the rest of the british population.. at the top-line level, the survey suggests that a mainstream british muslim majority have similar values and attitudes to the wider british public on issues such as support for british institutions and a feeling of belonging to britain.. but looking deeper into the results, a chasm develops between those muslims surveyed and the wider population on attitudes to liberal values on issues such as gender equality, homosexuality and issues relating to freedom of expression.
Not seen the documentary, might try to get it on catch up, but I'm a little suspicious.
i'd like to know the age demographics of those surveyed. I think a lot of older muslims (as would older christians) would have a much less tolerant viewpoint on gender, homosexuality and freedom of expression
Younger uk based muslins are likely to be a lot better integrated and tolerant.
im in the process of drifting out.
my entire family are jw's.
my wife and her family are too.
as i reported here in this forum, some time ago, my sister was constantly harried by two elders so as to be submitted to a judiciary committee for apostasy.
these two elders were constantly hounding her in the street when she walks to go to her job.
so she had to send them a notary letter in which she wrote that she would attend the judiciary committee only with her attorney.
If they have 'evidence' of apostasy, then any restraining orders, contacting the police, lawyer's letters etc will only confirm their view and she will probably be df'd in her absence.
If they are convening a committee and she's desperate not to get df'd then the only realistic option is to attend, deny everything and be 'spiritually weak'.
this was a comment i made from another post, but i would like to hear some people discuss this.
i know the social justice warriors will scream i'm some sort of trump supporter for what i say even though i don't agree with his ideas and no i am not voting for him... i accept this is a go to for them.. i think we have fallen into a pc vacuum.. criticizing someones religion = racism!.
telling someone to not be so sensitive = misogyny!.
But the Nattering Nannies of Niceties won't have it any other way it seems.
Liked for the use of words alone. :)
i haven't seen this mentioned yet.
last year in the uk, shortly after the money grab that everyone had, we had a video and letter (both probably still available from atlantis) appealing for money for the new bethel and slips were handed out etc.
this means that most uk congregations are sending a regular donation specifically for the chelmsford build.
The global preaching work will not stop even thought the governments will try.
If you thnk the UK government has cabinet meetings discussing the perils of a couple of people wandering round waving watchtowers then you maybe need to think again.
this was a comment i made from another post, but i would like to hear some people discuss this.
i know the social justice warriors will scream i'm some sort of trump supporter for what i say even though i don't agree with his ideas and no i am not voting for him... i accept this is a go to for them.. i think we have fallen into a pc vacuum.. criticizing someones religion = racism!.
telling someone to not be so sensitive = misogyny!.
Stay out of topics you don't agree with and ask that people stay out of yours if they don't agree with you.
Mmmm, have you been using the internet long? ;)
i haven't seen this mentioned yet.
last year in the uk, shortly after the money grab that everyone had, we had a video and letter (both probably still available from atlantis) appealing for money for the new bethel and slips were handed out etc.
this means that most uk congregations are sending a regular donation specifically for the chelmsford build.
The global preaching work will not stop even thought the governments will try.
I suspect there are going to be secret bunkers in many Bethels around the world, that is why most are moving away from cities and in the countries.
No, they're relocating from the city because they've realised they can release a lot of equity by selling expensive city property/land and relocating and rebuilding in a much cheaper area.
Nothing to do with underground bunkers!
this article suggests that there are projects being halted, but chelmsford isn't one of them.
can someone from the uk tell me if this article was written by a reputable and known publisher?
plans for huge jehovah's witnesses hq continues.
I remember on one of the builds, a brother got caught sticking his finger up another brothers bum.
It wasn't my proudest moment, I'll admit. :(
millions of documents show heads of state, criminals and celebrities using secret hideaways in tax havens... [...].
what about watchtower society's holy money?.
https://panamapapers.icij.org/20160403-panama-papers-global-overview.html?goal=0_ffd1d0160d-4ddea55429-100339089&mc_cid=4ddea55429&mc_eid=bfe834e473.
while the vast majority of posts that the majority of posters share are perfectly fine (which we appreciate) i've noticed we have a few cases where bad language, crude innuendo and outright misogyny is creeping in.. this is not acceptable.. we're not certainly not prudish and neither are we going to enforce puritanical rules - sometimes a politically incorrect joke is funny as hell and sometimes strong language is justified.
but often times content is completely out of place and cannot be justified.. so, please don't post crude content or use expletives just to be "shocking".
it's childish and immature and won't be tolerated.. thank you to all the people this has nothing at all to do with..
Here is how I see it. Imagine if, during that time in which you were turned off by "apostates", you got into a horrible car wreck (knock on wood) and you still kept your "no-blood card" in your wallet. They respected the "no-blood card" and let you die, right there, on the operating table. Horrible, right?
Well, imagine you had not been turned off by "apostates". Instead, "apostates" showed a loving & kind demeanor toward your objections and questions (like Paul Grundy & others did to me). You started having stronger doubts and, like me, asked for your "no-blood card" from the Elder's files and destroyed the one carried in your wallet (I did this very early on, even though I was still active for about 2 years afterward).
Then, you get into that same accident and your life is saved by a transfusion. You fully wake up, as does your family. Boom! Life saved.
THAT is how important it is we set a good example for lurkers and active JWs. It is a matter of life and death!
Oh, but its just "satire", right? Wrong! We have a responsibility to current JWs and the little children who might end up not being raised in this damn cult, just by us swallowing our pride and being respectful.
The problem is I have no wish to stop you being a witness. I stopped trying to convert people when I stopped going twenty years ago. You're a big boy. You can make your own mind up.
