Posts by Landy

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JW guilty on all accounts & bond revoked for sexual abuse in FL

by LevelThePlayingField in

this news article has a news video inside it straight from the station.

finally the judge doesn't hold back.. http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/jehovah-witness-teachers-aide-sex-scandal-guilty-on-all-counts.

Landy

"In the previous four years (starting in 2010), twenty-five Jehovah’s Witness ministers were convicted of child molestation charges in the UK." Worldwide there are an average of 8,132,358 publishers. In the UK there are an average of 134,517 publishers - ie 60 times the number. 60 x 25 convictions = 1,500 divide by four years = 375-a-year-worldwide - ie effectively just over ONE conviction-per-day.

That's an ambitious extrapolation there. It would be interesting to compare that against the mean for the general population

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

Landy

BTW, just because it isn't a court, doesn't mean it has no authority.)

And what authority does the ARC have? AFAIK (and I could be wrong) it can only make recommendations which organisations and governments are free to ignore.

It can compel people to attend as witnesses under fear of a fine but that's where their power pretty much stops.

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BETH-SHAN: Images of Rutherford's Bomb Shelter

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

for any who are interested, rutherford's infamous bomb shelter at "beth-shan" has been officially documented by the city of san diego historical resource board.

they have photographs, plans, and an interview with the couple who built their home on the land (5330 le barron rd).

a pdf of the full report can be found here:.

Landy

Bomb shelter? As Jehovah's servant on earth he should not have needed one me thinks.

it does show a certain lack of confidence :)

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

Landy

heir name is at stake along with all the counter lawsuits that the Watchtower is now you can be sure hitting them with.

What are you talking about? Why would the WTS be hitting the law firm with lawsuits for putting an advert in the paper?

If the advert brings forward any likely cases then the company msy consider putting a case together to sue the WTS, either as individual cases or a class action.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

Landy

Scare tactics? Most thinking people would call it being realistic.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

Landy

Unfortunately Richard has been correct n everything he said - any case that tries to show the WTS has been guilty of enabling or being complicit in any child abuse is going to be very difficult to prove.

With luck it may be possible in some cases but these will be very few and far between.

The ad is simply a fishing expedition to see what it throws up.

If you've been abused then I hope you can get professional help and I wish you all the best with that.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

Landy

You phoned up a law firm and started to read them random posts off an Internet forum?

Are you unwell?

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

Landy

Yes Richard I did, I hold then everything, I read them your posts. They said they know what they are doing but they are worried about you and your how upset you are sounding.

You sound so worked up. They want you to call so they can put your mind to ease.

Just call them instead of debating us,it's not doing you any ggod.

Again we didn't place the ad's they did. We were merely saying what we hope might happen and you came on trying to scare people into believing this is a lost cause, an uphill battle, it will take years if it ever work's. You are afraid for the victims that they are going to use cases that the victims are fragile, just so they can win big cases. That post of yours they really want to talk to you about.

They do not want to hurt anyone especially the victims and for you to indicate that they would they really want you to call so they can asure you that is not their intention.

WTF? I think you're the one that needs help - that's more than a little creepy.

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Is it just me ? 2 threads debating page after page with one individual ?

by smiddy in

jw
friends

is it just me who doesnt see the point of this ?

from time to time we see some individual who takes up page after page arguing his or her point of view and it usually ends up with only 2 or 3 individuals who keep the talkfest going with a particular individual and nobodys getting anything out of it .. why bother ?

why get sucked in to such a pointless dialogue ?

Landy

From time to time we see some individual who takes up page after page arguing his or her point of view and it usually ends up with only 2 or 3 individuals who keep the talkfest going with a particular individual and nobodys getting anything out of it .

This is the internet. That's what it's for. That and pictures of kittens obviously.

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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

by breakfast of champions in

my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

pretty telling.. .

Landy

Are you in the Watchtower's payroll? or you just like having fun by being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian?

He's not being contrarian - is this instance he's being resonable (and generally correct) and you're continuing the tradition on here that any one who gives thoughtful realistic responses and doesn't get caught up in the stupid anti-jw rhetoric that sometimes goes on here is pro-jw.

The ad is a vertical market campaign on a fishing expedition. Advertising works best when it is directed at as narrow group as is practical and that's what they've done.

The child abuse lawsuits have had very limited success against the witnesses, we keep waiting for the landslide but it never appears (remind you of something?).

There is sometimes grounds for taking action but it's only in very limited circumstances.

It may yield some results, it may not. I do agree though it's not good publicity for the WTS - localised as it may be.