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  Silentlambs, The Letter, The World, and Justice.

  by BeautifulGarbage in

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  first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.

  i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.

  the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.

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  pomegranate

  Folks like "Pomegranate scare the HELL out of me-

  No need to panic!

  the mindset that this poster had as a jw is exactly the Same-

  First, you don't even know me to make that statement. Second. That is way untrue. JW's teach they can save you by you believing them. I teach no such thing...

  how sad-- that perhaps after all those years of being a jw they have not learned to understand what it means to Criticize someone in a Constructive manner really is.

  That makes no sense. Recheck your grammar and rephrase so I know how to respond...

  in wt world anyone who dared to criticize ANYTHING was automatically view as NOT SUPPORTING THE CAUSE,

  In pomegranate's world, he expresses his beliefs to express them not to change anyone or make them believe what he believes. To me, it's y'all that got ya pants all up in a ball over nuttin.

  Edited by - pomegranate on 7 October 2002 18:22:27
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  Silentlambs, The Letter, The World, and Justice.

  by BeautifulGarbage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.

  i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.

  the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.

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  pomegranate

  >>God is the figurative basket that people put their faith into. Doesn't mean he's real. Those Heaven's Gaters had faith, too.<<

  There's true faith and there is false faith. True faith is given out by God. False faith is made up by man.

  >>God has nothing to do with this. It's just people being people.<<

  God has everything to do with true faith.

  >>Chill, Pom, our disbelief shouldn't make you panic.<<

  Your disbelief is no source of panic for me. You will believe exactly as you will. I couldn't care less, nor can I make you believe any different than you do.

  >>The fact that you believe in God just means you've put a spiritual face to your desire for immortality.<<

  That's your opinion which is not true.
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  Silentlambs, The Letter, The World, and Justice.

  by BeautifulGarbage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.

  i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.

  the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.

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  pomegranate

  You gonna tell me to pray harder

  I haven't told you to do anything just like I haven't told you to see anything. Do exactly as you will!!!
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  Silentlambs, The Letter, The World, and Justice.

  by BeautifulGarbage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.

  i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.

  the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.

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  pomegranate

  >>When Christians want to only accept the bad, and only see the good. They are not shouldering their responsibly.<<

  That is inaccurate. I shoulder MY OWN bad as MY OWN responsibilty. I DO NOT shoulder another man's bad as MY responsibilty.

  >>PS : I do not believe in the Bible, so quoting it to me is like quoting the dictionary as God's word.<<

  I do not believe in kenpodragon self theology, so I guess we're even.
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  Silentlambs, The Letter, The World, and Justice.

  by BeautifulGarbage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.

  i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.

  the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.

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  pomegranate

  Why not use examples taken from history NOT in the Bible (which can be verified and are not part of a fairy tale book IMHO) or even from our modern day? NOT using the Bible. Where has your God intervened?

  Everytime a child is born.

  The Holy Inquisitions which slaughtered countless millions in God's name?
  The millions of people enslaved and murdered during the era of African-American slavery in the United States?
  Oh, I know.. how about the Nazi Holocaust where millions were murdered simply because of their ethnicity?
  
  September 11th, 2001 - Innocent people, including very religious people who can sit and quote Scriptures just like you, were going to and from work and were murdered because fanatical Muslims committed a horrible atrocity in the name of their God.

  So, your logic is, because He doesn't intervene on YOUR time and schedule, He is the reason for all the bad?

  >>Your God is nothing but an absentee landlord.<<

  So how does that make Him responsible?

  >>He sure has one good cushy position though. Something good happens to people, religious zealots praise Him. Something bad happens, you make an excuse for Him as to why he did not do anything. Or better, yet, you blame ANOTHER invisible being (Satan) as the culprit.<<

  Makes it pretty simple. And you? What do you have for answers? NOTHING. I have contentment in my belief. All you have is discontent in your disbelief without any counter explaination FOR ANYTHING at all...you are MISERABLE and UNHAPPY that I (or anyone else) can believe in God.

  A first grader can condemn just about anything. It's a wise man that has an answer. ANY ANSWER. You have no answers...only condemnation.

  >>What say you to that?<<

  See the above.

  >>And please, for the sake of not making yourself look foolish, do not quote further Scriptures.<<

  I will quote when I feel like it. I'll let another judge decides who's the fool.

  >>Use your own reasoning, not something prepackaged for you in a religious book.<<

  I'm am free to use whatever I feel to your liking or not.

  Edited by - pomegranate on 7 October 2002 17:41:20
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  Silentlambs, The Letter, The World, and Justice.

  by BeautifulGarbage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.

  i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.

  the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.

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  pomegranate

  >>To Pom,

  I don't ask you NOT to believe in god, so don't ask me to see this as a directive by god.<<

  I'm not asking you to see anything. I asked you how you know whether or not God is backing Bill? You don't. He could be. Your disbelief in God does not disqualify that possibilty.

  >>I didn't say I don't trust silentlambs, I said I don't put my faith in ANY organization. There is a difference.<<

  Faith is trust. There is no difference. If you trust Bill and SL, you have FAITH in them.

  >>I trust what Bill is doing is for the right reason.<<

  That IS faith. It even MOVED YOU to DO SOMETHING. March in NYC.

  >>I have met him and his family and love them all. I know Bill is doing this for the right reason and that is what I trust. I trust what Bill is doing is for the protection of children.<<

  Does Bill still believe in God? Why would he use the Bible through the bull horn at the WTBTS if he didn't feel there was some FORCE behind it? Actually, it really wouldn't matter if Bill still believes or not. God uses unbelievers to get His will done all the time.

  >>I don't put my "faith" in any Organization.<<

  You are being a hypocrite. Silentlambs.ORG. The org stands for ORGANIZATION.

  >>Silentlambs has given me guidence and put me in touch with others I have been able to assist. I would not die for Silentlambs, but I would die for the protection of children if it would change things and give children a voice that would be heard. Silentlambs organization has given me and others a link to others, information, and legal channels if we so choose to use them. The most important thing it has done, for me, is to allow me to understand I am not crazy and that I am not alone in this. Silentlambs is a mouth piece, and I hope it will be around a long time.<<

  See the bold above.

  faith (fn.

  1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. See Synonyms at trust.
  2. Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one's supporters.
  3. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.
  4. often Faith Christianity. The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will.
  5. The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith.
  6. A set of principles or beliefs.
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  Silentlambs, The Letter, The World, and Justice.

  by BeautifulGarbage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.

  i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.

  the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.

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  pomegranate

  Well, considering his track record with the holocaust and other attrocities, I wouldn't be expecting divine intervention any time soon.

  Good things = God's work
  Bad things = Satan's work

  Holocaust, good or bad? Whose track record?

  Good things = God's work
  Other atrocities = Satan's work

  Other atrocities = good or bad? Whose track record?
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  Silentlambs, The Letter, The World, and Justice.

  by BeautifulGarbage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.

  i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.

  the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.

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  pomegranate

  Your twisting my words friend.

  I never said Bill was claiming anything...but I believe God is.

  Lean on the side of caution with who you put trust in.

  I put my trust in God. Caution need not apply.
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  Governing Body Summoned For Jud Hearing

  by silentlambs in

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  service committee .

  25 columbia heights

  brooklyn, ny 11201 .

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  pomegranate

  In the US, we have something called "armchair quarterbacks."

  I'm not one to criticize the QB, I'll just root for the home team.

  Score:

  Silent Lambs: 7

  WTBTS: 0
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  Silentlambs, The Letter, The World, and Justice.

  by BeautifulGarbage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.

  i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.

  the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.

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  pomegranate

  How do you know that the effort shown by others for good is not a direct cause by God?

  PS. Silent Lambs IS an organization of which you have put your trust in. And rightly so.

  Silent lambs no more, Amen.