Posts by pomegranate

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Please convince me I'm wrong!

by StinkyPantz in

since i have stopped attending the meetings, i have had a loss of faith in god.

i consider myself an agnostic teetering on being a full blown atheist.

while in school this last semester i have been taking courses that emphasize evolution.

pomegranate

God will save the Pope if he darn well pleases.

If he does, who can argue?

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Please convince me I'm wrong!

by StinkyPantz in

since i have stopped attending the meetings, i have had a loss of faith in god.

i consider myself an agnostic teetering on being a full blown atheist.

while in school this last semester i have been taking courses that emphasize evolution.

22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he already has? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.

gumby groans as in the pains of childbirth. So does pomegranate. Just like the Apostles.

pomegranate waits for redemption. pomegranate waits for adoption. Patiently. With hope. For what is unseen. For what I do not have yet. Does gumby?

Hope is the stuff that gets me by and makes me HAPPY.

Edited by - pomegranate on 25 October 2002 17:41:57

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Carbon Dating

by Wolfgirl in

sorry, i don't have time to search the site right now.

this bloody french isp is rubbish, and i keep getting dropped when i try anything that takes more than 10 seconds.

has the society ever come up with any intelligent reasoning to counter the ages that carbon dating/science has given to various artifacts, i.e.

pomegranate

That's what I thought.

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Carbon Dating

by Wolfgirl in

sorry, i don't have time to search the site right now.

this bloody french isp is rubbish, and i keep getting dropped when i try anything that takes more than 10 seconds.

has the society ever come up with any intelligent reasoning to counter the ages that carbon dating/science has given to various artifacts, i.e.

pomegranate

What evidence?

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Please convince me I'm wrong!

by StinkyPantz in

since i have stopped attending the meetings, i have had a loss of faith in god.

i consider myself an agnostic teetering on being a full blown atheist.

while in school this last semester i have been taking courses that emphasize evolution.

pomegranate

Please convince me I'm wrong!

I did as she asked, and now she's pissed at me for doing as she asks?

What's wrong with this picture?

Or was this thread title really meaning "Please, convince me I'm right"?

Or, Stinky, what did you really expect from this thread anyway?

There's one sure thing that the Bible holds out for each and every person.

HOPE.

I am happy in my HOPE that I might be chosen. If I have HOPE, I have everything I need. It's the same for you and everyone else as it is for me.

Stinky, it aint't over till it's over. And it ain't over yet.

Rom 15:13
May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.

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Court of the Crimson King

by pomegranate in

robert fripp.

guitar, soundscapes.

mellotron adrian belew.

pomegranate

K I N G C R I M S O N

	Robert Fripp Guitar, Soundscapes Mellotron	Adrian Belew Guitar, Voice Words
Trey Gunn Stick, Warr Guitar Backing Vocals		Tony Levin Upright & Electric Basses, Stick, Backing Vocals
Pat Mastelotto		Bill Bruford
Acoustic & Electronic Percussions

I Talk to the Wind
Said the straight man to the late man
Where have you been
I've been here and I've been there
And I've been in between.

I talk to the wind
My words are all carried away
I talk to the wind
The wind does not hear
The wind cannot hear.

I'm on the outside looking inside
What do I see
Much confusion, disillusion
All around me.

You don't possess me
Don't impress me
Just upset my mind
Can't instruct me or conduct me
Just use up my time

I talk to the wind
My words are all carried away
I talk to the wind
The wind does not hear
The wind cannot hear.

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Creation: The big and the small of it

by Zechariah in

jw
friends

more than any time in history respect and the awe of god has seriously eroded .

man has taken creation for granted and have allowed themselves to believe that no intelligence was required in the making of the universe.

random impersonal forces they delude themselves could have caused all we see in the universe.

pomegranate

From reading a few of your past posts,you believe in the bible's version of creation,but you seem to have taken a more liberal stance.Am I correct in assuming you don't believe that the earth was created in literal days?What would your estimate be on the age of this planet?

It is quite IMPOSSIBLE for the earth to have been created in literal days. I am presuming you mean 24 hour time periods when you say "literal days." Estimating the age of the earth is of no value to me...it is indeed old enough to be a free running entity that surely took alot of time to build, of which layers surely speak of something being built. Just like floors on a sky scraper, built layer by layer, floor by floor.

I was also wondering if you had incorporated ideas or concepts from the creation beliefs of other non christian religions.After all,there are many such varied concepts out there.

I know of no one that looks at the earth and it's biological structure it exihbits the way I do. I'm in my own private Idaho so to speak.

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Creation: The big and the small of it

by Zechariah in

jw
friends

more than any time in history respect and the awe of god has seriously eroded .

man has taken creation for granted and have allowed themselves to believe that no intelligence was required in the making of the universe.

random impersonal forces they delude themselves could have caused all we see in the universe.

pomegranate

I don't imagine that you are one of the guys that denies the fossil record - that these animals and plants really existed. You see it strikes me as absurdly tedious for a God to create a set of flora and fauna, then decide that some of them had served their purpose, and clear them out, and then make another set with some varying set of characteristics and see how they work out for a while.

I am one of the guys that knows the fossil record is completely absent of transitional life forms. Which is what evolution professes to be true. If evolution is a fact, the fossil evidence of a transitory coming into existance would not only be in the fossil record, but the evidence would be enormous, simply overwhelming, undeniable and irrefutable. Evolutionists are tied to maybe a few examples that can easily be refuted, which even evolutionists admit..

The earth is a cyclic biological entity. It's life forms live on the nitrogen cycle which in it's simplest terms, means things die and give their nutrient value to a following life form as food or fertilizer. In order for that to happen (the cycle), things had to be made living then eliminated enmass in order to bring the nitrogen cycle up to speed and running all by itself. Loam is dead stuff and expelled discharge (vegetative and animal) that turns into FERTILE GROUND. Without God going through elementary CYCLES of passes of unintelligent life coming to be (ie Cambrian period) then eliminated, the cycle of nittrogen would NEVER be a fact. I beleive the cycle of nitrogen was built in waves. Layers of life that were reduced by God into layers of death, supplying a source of life for the following wave of created life.

From the smallest ie trilobites in the beginning all the way to the huge dinosaurs towards the end, along with the constant vegetative cycles of living then dying, each life form that came and went became a part of the nitrogen cycle engine that would eventually become a free running entity. Without these waves of death enmass, there would be no nitrogen cycle. I believe even the dinosuars were used as a final burst of organic bang to the biological engine we are familiar with as the cyclic earth.

That's what I believe.

Edited by - pomegranate on 25 October 2002 8:51:39

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Please convince me I'm wrong!

by StinkyPantz in

since i have stopped attending the meetings, i have had a loss of faith in god.

i consider myself an agnostic teetering on being a full blown atheist.

while in school this last semester i have been taking courses that emphasize evolution.

pomegranate

You have faith in evolution.

You are trying to serve two masters.

That will get you what you have.

PS. I have called nor judged you NONE of what you have defined and accepted as yourself.

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Carbon Dating

by Wolfgirl in

sorry, i don't have time to search the site right now.

this bloody french isp is rubbish, and i keep getting dropped when i try anything that takes more than 10 seconds.

has the society ever come up with any intelligent reasoning to counter the ages that carbon dating/science has given to various artifacts, i.e.

pomegranate

1. Review the background information.

Joe: We need to prove we came from chemicals and fish
Pete: OK

2. Set up a methodology.

Joe: Let's make a primordial soup and charge it with masses of high voltage .
Pete: Kewl.

3. Test it and make observations.

ZAP!
Joe: Hmmm. It didn't work. Pete did you observe that?
Pete: Yep, that's what I observed.

4. Discus the observations

Joe: Pete, I think it didn't work, that's what I observed. You?
Pete: Yeah. Dead chemicals is still dead chemicals...
Joe: Hmm, are you sure?
Pete: Yep. Look for yourself.
Joe: Yep. Still dead.

5. Then come to the conclusions.

Joe: I think we came from chemicals and fish. Evolution ya know?
Pete: Yeah. Me too. Chemicals and fish. Kewl.
Joe: Yeah Kewl.

6. Make more recommendations for futher studies to test the hypothesis and of course allow a group of peers to review it.

Joe: I think we should do it again. You?
Pete: Yeah. Let's do it again. Hey, let's get Frank and Sam to watch too.
Joe: Yeah, they can confirm our hypothesis.
Pete: Yeah, cause sooner or later, chemicals become fish right?
Joe: Yeah, evolution ya know?
Pete: Yeah, kewl.
Joe: Kewl...

Edited by - pomegranate on 24 October 2002 23:0:32