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Sorry, but WTF? Who has photos of the governing body in gilded frames on their desk?
I have been saying this for a long time, the guy is controlled opposition. He has framed pictures of the GB, Watchtower literature behind glass, and a JW logo that is visible in every video. A few have spoken about potential hand signals and Lloyd denies the clear Freemason ties even though there is no reason to deny them.
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Why doesn't Lloyd take his own advise on point 8? Lloyd Evans, you have people from all over the world's permission to go away and find a new way to make money. I also noticed Lloyd can't help but drag Dijana into every statement against her wishes. We can also conclude he did go to Phuket not only for the "stunning beaches" but for its sex industry. Lloyd has since admitted as much. In point 4 Lloyd talks about his words being taken out of context. Funny thing is nobody has to do that either. Finally I do not know if the 2017 "Marko" stuff is real or not, but what Lloyd has admitted to is enough to not want his involvement in IICSA or any other projects involving child abuse or sexual abuse. Add to this his 2015 attempt of copyright theft, and we see a man without ethics, morals, or decency.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
Thats because you are not an impartial arbitrator but only an advocate.
I once believed Watchtower was right about 607 until I was proved wrong. End of story.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
Not exactly. In fairness to our worthy combatant, he has maintained such a scholarly approach on this forum these past 21 years.
Ozziepost, is this the same person that got into epic discussions with AlanF all those years ago. Scholar just can't admit he has it all wrong can he/she? This person has been proved wrong over and over, but won't let it go. So sad.
how do jws resolve these conflicting facts.. 1. no matter how you spin it, bible chronology calculates to circa 4000 bc for adam's creation.
i followed the trail many years ago and that's what it adds up to.. 2. the most cursory investigation of any branch of relevant science puts man's habitation on the earth as hugely earlier than that.
it's now so well-proved that anyone disputing it is guilty of wilful ignorance.
I mean, if God wanted mankind to know the date of the creation of the first man, He could have made that much clearer in Genesis. That would've had the additional benefit of giving the whole world a basis for a starting calendar year. January 1, 1 would be the year humanity came into existence. I think it's a pretty good starting point.
(I know, I know... he wouldn't have named it January. Maybe he could have improved on the names of months, too!)
While God was at it, he could have made the earth go around the sun evenly. Instead of 365.25 days, he could have made it an even number. It is almost as if things just came to be without the direct influence of a god.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
Nonsense. Jesus would have known the exact year that Jerusalem fell in King Zedekiah's 11th year and King Nebuchadnezzer's 18th year which in our modern calendar not used in Jesus' day is properly calculated as 607 BCE
There isn't a single scholar that would suggest 607 as the date of Jerusalem's destruction. My guess is your screen name is meant to be ironic.
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Unemployment sucks, but I seriously doubt Tibor is making that good of a wage from Lloyd. Hopefully Tibor gets plenty of "Tibor Is Gracious" t-shirts as severance.
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Now the question becomes, does Lloyd stay above 380 patrons? I think it is possible to lose at least another 160 patrons by the end of the year. Not that his videos were all that exciting to begin with, but my understanding is, they have lost whatever it was that kept people watching. Rebuttals and advise simply get too repetitive and unless he can build a new network of insiders, he would have to watch other channels and troll reddit for any news. There certainly won't be any "Bottlegate" or "Pillowgate" videos.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
Why do you think Jesus couldn't predict 1914 based on Daniel 4?
Jesus would have known that Jerusalem wasn't destroyed by Babylon in 607 BCE. Having witnessed the events as an angel, he would have known the exact day.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
what all these bible readers miss is, that Jesus was already in his kingdom in the first century. Colossians 1:13, an colossal oversight.
Then I the question becomes, does Jesus rule for 1000 years or does he rule for eternity? According to Watchtower, he rules for 1000 years and then hands the kingdom back over to Jehovah. According to just about all other Christians, Jesus simply is God and King.
Personally I don't take much of the bible literally, so the 1000 years could be a metaphor that does not translate in modern language.
