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I don't believe Lloyd is a WT plant. Not their style. I think he a Narcissistic Personality and probably needs counseling and medication. He certainly needs a large supply of condoms.
I agree, but nothing surprises me any more.
Allow me to ask another question. Do we know for certain Lloyd and his father are estranged? I just don't feel like taking Lloyd's word on anything.
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Slimboyfat,
That video was both entertaining and right on point. My wife and I were laughing hard when CoachDeeFree started talking about Lloyd maybe getting with lady boys. She said something about flying over to "Crotch-a-stan" and tuning him up. I am so glad she made a video on it.
We need more videos from people like her and less boring and tedious rebuttal videos. She did bring up something I have been wondering. Could Lloyd be some sort of Watchtower plant like a controlled opposition? After all Lloyd torpedoed multiple channels, he railed against Kingdom Hall crashes and protests, and he has shot down all evidence about Watchtower's ties to the Freemasons. When people point out questionable images in the literature he downplays it. Now he has tried to normalize illegal prostitution with trafficked women. It is something to think about.
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I have noticed if you are engaged by any Lloyd supporter on YouTube, they tend to stop talking to you the moment you call them a "Lloyd Cult Member" and that they can never say anything bad about their "Dear Leader."
as expected from a man who prioritizes the most vulnerable members of our community, marc has made a sober statement that explains why there's a deep conflict of interest between lloyds recent behaviour and the work they do at jw watch.
you can read it here:.
public statement of mark o’donnell.
Thanks Simon for removing that person. Defending a married 30 year-old seeking intimacy from a 14 year-old is sick. Bad enough that he was looking for love in all the wrong places, but once the age is known that is a whole other level of bad.
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Tolberone5,
What is on their heads? Is this a new way of identifying who is with Lloyd and who is not?
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How is Dijana and family letting him live in that house? I am starting to think she must support his behavior. I don't get this at all.
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I had a conversation with Tibor Ceceja (Lloyd's video editor) and I am posting the whole thing here.
@Tibor Cecelja You might feel differently after you see this. A relative of Lloyd's just released a statement on Lloyd grooming 14 year-olds. (video link removed)
@NonCoinCollector I would be all ears if the person who leaked came forward or the victim came forward with actual proof. When it's "a relative" and the proof are some emails that can be faked in not much time then I am not interested. Imagine if that was the way courts handled cases, if anyone could come up with an anonymous statement saying "I'm his relative, here's some screenshots". How would a relative on Dijana's side even have access to Lloyd's email? Do you people even think before posting?
@Tibor Cecelja I wonder if you think before posting too. You have direct access to the people involved. Is there a Marko? I'm pretty sure that is easy to answer. Does this man look like he is playing around? (Marc's video removed) My advise to Lloyd is if he is innocent, then go to the police in the U. K. and prove to them he is not "jle1979gobbler." This man is a piece of garbage and your backing him is going to make you look very bad in the coming days.
@Tibor Cecelja Read this passage: (video removed) Now ask yourself, is the man you work for capable of this? Have you seen his interactions from years ago. He has a history of flirting with women that has been established. I have watched him get belligerent online with people that don't kiss his rear. Women have reported that he gets hateful if they don't flirt back. He admitted he can't control his body. He admitted to going to countries where prostitution is illegal which includes Thailand. Thailand is known for trafficking women including minors. He never once said what he did was wrong and apologized in his 90 minute confession. In fact that video was meant to weaponize his audience against Kim Silvio. Meanwhile you want more proof and you think we are nuts. I eagerly look forward to your reply.
@Tibor Cecelja I realize this all must be hard for you to accept, but please do your loved ones a favor and keep them away from Lloyd. I still think you would be better off quitting Lloyd's channel too. He is not worth it.
@NonCoinCollector oh no, the police have some screenshots that wouldn't be considered evidence anywhere but on social media. Are you people serious with this stuff? If that was enough evidence to bring someone down then everyone would just fake some screenshots and bring down whoever they dislike.
@NonCoinCollector There is no Marko, and that was already proven years ago. But why do research when you can act like a justice warrior? If he does exist, his only relation to Dijana is being Croatian. By that logic I am Dijana's cousin as well. Our country is small but it ain't that small. Also, I love the fact the video about Marko has what appears to be some weird version of the Serbian flag as a thumbnail. The guy posting doesn't even know the difference between Serbia and Croatia
@NonCoinCollector also, when calling someone garbage you better step forward with your real identity. Since you believe you're right you have nothing to fear. So many of you are running around spreading false information under disguises because you're not even sure it's real yourself but you like acting like you have the moral high ground whilst ruining people's lives. Pathetic.
@Tibor Cecelja By all means, continue your delusions. Your boss is a bad guy and now the whole community knows it.@Tibor Cecelja I think you are lying when you say there is no Marko. A number of us have spoken to him, although I have not. Either way, this is now in the hands of the police, so Lloyd will have plenty of explaining to do. As for the thumbnail, only someone like you would care. Yes let's throw out the whole thing based on a Serbian flag being used instead of a Croatian one. Looks to me you are grasping at anything to defend your position. Good luck with that. @Tibor Cecelja I will give you the same offer I gave your boss. If you want to know who I am, then let me know when you come to Kansas and I will introduce myself to you and Lloyd. I can't very well put my name out there as there are people inside Watchtower I must protect. Shame on you for not knowing better and bitching about my screen name. Feel free to report to Lloyd that I think he is currently the biggest piece of garbage in the ex-JW community.
@NonCoinCollector a number of you have spoken to... A person. Has he provided actual evidence of him being related to Dijana? You have not provided a single shred of evidence actually saying Lloyd engaged in CSA. And yet you accuse him of it. Come on, give us your name. Why be anon when you have the moral high ground? I have no problem displaying my name because I know I am not saying anything that could lead to legal action against me. Why don't you do the same? And yes, it is funny how someone who is making a serious video throwing accusations of such nature would fail at most basic things like googling "Croatian flag" when making a thumbnail. I am not saying it's making the video invalid but it is funny. What is making the video invalid is a story that wouldn't hold up in any legal institution.
@Tibor Cecelja I guess we will see who is right and not soon enough. Why are you worried about not knowing my name? Why does that bother you? Again, I have to protect people that are still in Watchtower. Why are you too stupid to know this?
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Typo,
Maybe I can help. In 2008 when he was trolling for 14 year-olds Lloyd was a Ministerial Servant. Watchtower would have to admit they had a problem. Watchtower will never admit anything. Then fast-forward to Lloyd's "Judicial," I bet the Watchtower Rep made it clear what was said in that room stayed in that room.
Sure Lloyd's channel may have helped some leave Watchtower, but those people would have found others on YouTube and left anyway. The key to all of this is Watchtower needs to pretend they don't have a problem with CSA.
as expected from a man who prioritizes the most vulnerable members of our community, marc has made a sober statement that explains why there's a deep conflict of interest between lloyds recent behaviour and the work they do at jw watch.
you can read it here:.
public statement of mark o’donnell.
Why would he tell her to stop? They were both on that website for the same reason. I think what you meant to say was if he had been an adult with a working moral compass like yours, or as "Sea Breeze" calls it family values, he would not have been on that website in the first place.
That's a fair point. What is unclear to me is if "jke1979gobbler" knew he was talking to a 14 year-old prior to learning her age. Once the age is known, the discussion has to end. An adult with a working conscience knows right from wrong. Regardless of what the law says, if a girl is school age and you're several years older, it is wrong.
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"If you know of CSA or have evidence that a minor has been groomed or abused, please go to the police with it."
Don't worry Lloyd we will.
