Be nice, but I wont see it in my lifetime.
iwantoutnow
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2024 A View Into The Future
by The Bethelite inafter many tv specials were the watchtower bible & truck society have been exposed as the biggest religious haven for pedophiles on the planet and the loss of hundred of court cases including (the last and biggest one involving the supreme court) the society finally files chapter 11.. the society must turn over all of their files of all known pedophiles.
this turns out to be bigger then anyone could have ever imagined with tens of thousands of their members being named many of whom have been in positions of power.. over 80% of their followers leave the mother ship and contributions slow to a trickle.. most of the society's properties are sold off and people are meeting in private homes and basements.
just like they did when the church was founded a 150 years ago.
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Watchtower reveals some property stats - incomplete but interesting
by Corney ininteresting screenshots of internal wt databases appear in the 2018 coordinators' committee report video (that's in fact a presentation of their hub software) at 6:34-6:50. they contain, among others, the following information:.
there are 61,349 kingdom halls and 841 assembly halls;.
4,308 properties are held for sale, including 2,925 khs;.
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iwantoutnow
On that video at 6min 40 seconds in they say something interesting.
They say that the "perceived" need for thousands of KHs ASAP "was resolved" using the HUB software.
So here is their MESSAGE as to why they went from Begging money for thousands of new Halls needed ASAP, to selling off thousands!
The dissolving of the RBC (which was the org that build ALL the halls in the USA) because they needed thousands of Halls ASAP!
Having asked ALL Congregations to VOW monthly money (basically giving each Hall a perpetual mortgage) by each publisher so they can build these Thousands of KHs ASAP!
Telling ALL congregations to Send ALL their money in their bank accounts (except for a small amount for operating expense) so they can fund the building of THOUSANDS of New KHs ASAP!
SOOOOO - No mention that, well now we DON'T need all that money, so we will give it all back.
If any Corporation or Organization will have done that, people would be in Jail for FRAUD!
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Involved(ish) with a JW Man.
by BNG-713 ini know there are several posts about witnesses and non-witnesses in regards to relationships.
i couldn’t find anything specifically that spoke to me, so i would love some third-party advice and thoughts.. i have never been someone to pursue a stranger from the internet.
earlier this year, i became friends with someone on a video game.
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iwantoutnow
RUN!
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Boy crowned prom queen by schoolmates
by pale.emperor innow i think i may have seen everything.. "boy crowned prom queen by schoolmates".
i'm all for people being entitled to wear what they want and live as they please as long as they're not harming anyone but - a male prom queen?
maybe there wasn't much competition in his school?.
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iwantoutnow
Its always the same thing. "Your different than me, thus there is something wrong with you."
"No what your doing does not impact me in any way, but your different so..."
"No I don't want other people to judge me or what I do, but your different than me so..."
We all escaped a CULT that told us what to Be, what to Think, what to LOOK LIKE, etc....
Have we learned anything from that?
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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.
by Roger Kirkpatrick inthe fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.
watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!
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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.
by Roger Kirkpatrick inthe fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.
watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!
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iwantoutnow
Crazyguy -
Theres less then 4 million baptized jws world wide and their getting smaller by the minute imo
Were in the world are you getting that number?
240—Lands where Jehovah’s Witnesses worship
8,579,909—Jehovah’s Witnesses
10,079,709—Free home Bible courses conducted
20,329,317—Attendance at the annual Memorial of Christ’s death
119,954—Congregations
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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.
by Roger Kirkpatrick inthe fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.
watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!
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iwantoutnow
Slimboyfrat -
So you mean the End is right around the corner?
They are in 2 minute warning and the seconds are ticking down:)Sorry for being sarcastic, and I REALLY HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT!! With all my heart.
I just think this doomsday prediction isn't based on fact, since we lack 2 things.
The WT books, and their internal plans & reasonsings.
So without that, we cobble together outcomes that fit what we want to see.
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WT Teaching That You Can't Leave Behind
by jhine inafter posting on another thread it became apparent to me that it can be difficult for some ex jws to totally shake off all wt teaching , even after leaving the org.
do you still feel guilty going into a church for a wedding or a funeral .
can you bring yourself to celebrate birthdays or christmas .
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iwantoutnow
Though my kids are still young enough to look forward to and love Holidays, they really have no meaning to me.
Has nothing to do with "teachings" from being a JW, its the lack of tradition.
Memories and joys with holidays buildup from childhood.
They become things you look forward to and cherish, and are surrounded with memories with family and friends.
I have none of those, so they have no meaning to me now.
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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.
by Roger Kirkpatrick inthe fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.
watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!
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iwantoutnow
slimboy - so when is it over for them?
You see the writing on the wall I don't.
When do they fold? 5 years, 10, 15 50?
What do you say so I can check back with you.
They have paid out tens of millions in the US alone, with more to come. The costs could easily reach hundreds of dollars per publisher. What JW wants to contribute money to pay towards that?
Ha, practically none of them know or care. Its satan attacking them as the WT says.
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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.
by Roger Kirkpatrick inthe fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.
watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!
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iwantoutnow
HMM...
1. Historically their main source of income from print media dried up decades ago.
YES BUT Their costs with being a printing house are also GONE.
2 They’ve sold most of the valuable property they accumulated in the good times.
YES - BUT THEY HAVE BILLIONS IN THE BANK TO INVEST AN LIVE OFF OF
3. After years of cutting costs the cuts keep coming.
YES SO NOW getting $1 is like getting $10 in the past. ALSO so little money is going out comparatively.
4. Their pattern of KH and Assembly Hall sales and demands for local funds indicates ongoing financial stress.
THIS IS THEIR NEW REVENUE SOURCE, WHICH BY ALL ACCOUNTS IS DOING JUST FINE.
ALL HALLS ARE PAYING LIKE THEY HAVE A MORTGAGE TO THE WT NOW.5. The worst of their legal costs have not yet hit them.
THEY HAVE PAID OUT VERY LITTLE, and will continue to shield themselves.Don't get me wrong - i wish them gone, but its not gonna happen for a long time.