Posts by blankspace

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Uber’s ruin everything

by Steel in

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has anyone ever been to a jehovah witness social event and you are having a good time till a couple idiots show up and have to twist everything back to the society.

how many pioneers in your cong?.

do you hear about russia?

My mom was never a pioneer. She was too busy doing the right thing and raising us kids. I remember when we'd go to gatherings, the really uber witnesses would ask her things like, "Are you pioneering?" (although most of them knew she wasn't). They loved to put non-pioneers on the spot. Witnesses confuse peer pressure with encouragement. Some others would say, "We just can't wait for you to pioneer" or "Pioneering is such a blessing". Mom got fed up once and asked another pioneer sister what were these "blessings". She was like, "Well, you get to attend pioneer school". And mom goes, "Is that school based on the Bible? " "Of course! " "So you're not learning anything new. The GB probably feels you pioneers don't really spend time in personal study so they have to set aside and entire two weeks for study. Me, I read my Bible every day and I have a good relationship with Jehovah. And I don't need a title to prove my relationship with Jehovah or my self worth. " That was the last time I heard pioneers in my congregation try to take a dig at mom. At least in public. Of course we were not invited to gatherings as often as before!

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Indian Branch Office Sold!

by Eliseo in

from a whistleblower on reddit: https://testimonidigeovaconsapevoli.blogspot.com/2019/07/le-gole-profonde-ci-passano-questa.html.

blankspace

They've bought apartments and a office floor in a gated community. The community name is Brigade Orchards in Bangalore. It lies behind the airport. I have the letter with me and I'll post the gist of it in a while. BTW, the contributions received in India went up by 30% last year (according to the letter).

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India's "Anti-Shunning" Law

by blankspace in

this is not an all-encompassing law and has been introduced at the moment only in the state of maharashtra.

the prohibition of people from social boycott (prevention, prohibition, and redressal) act 2016 makes social boycott in the name of religion a criminal offence.

here's link to an article explaining the law: .

blankspace

Rubadub, good question. Well, this law has actually been used and although it's been around for a while, many actually found out about it because of a family that faced social boycott from their community because of opposing virginity tests.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/maharashtra-family-faces-social-boycott-for-opposing-virginity-test-1526253-2019-05-16

Being a black sheep is a whole different scenario. The social boycott law applies to when there is a formal announcement or resolution made to exclude a person from a community. So if the congregation was to announce that someone was no longer a JW and that led to shunning, or if there was no announcement but word got around and a person was shunned, or if there was a marking talk and a person was shunned. the congregation could be taken to court. The only proof that the courts require is that this is indeed shunning resulting from religious rules and there is ample evidence in the WT's videos and publications.

A lawyer I spoke to said that there have been numerous other cases filed (apart from the one in the link), but none have come to the attention of the media until now. It takes activism for the media to pick up a case, and I'm sure that if exJWs go to court, the media is going to gobble up the news. From the short while I've been in India I've learned that if you want courts to move fast and if you want a case resolved, take the media with you to the police station and have them follow your case. It's funny how fast people work when there's a journalist in the picture.

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India's "Anti-Shunning" Law

by blankspace in

this is not an all-encompassing law and has been introduced at the moment only in the state of maharashtra.

the prohibition of people from social boycott (prevention, prohibition, and redressal) act 2016 makes social boycott in the name of religion a criminal offence.

here's link to an article explaining the law: .

blankspace

This is not an all-encompassing law and has been introduced at the moment only in the state of Maharashtra. The Prohibition of People from Social Boycott (Prevention, Prohibition, and Redressal) Act 2016 makes social boycott in the name of religion a criminal offence. Here's link to an article explaining the law:

https://www.ucanews.com/news/indian-state-gets-new-law-against-social-boycott/79870

This may come in handy for anyone in the state of Maharashtra, who is or will in future be shunned. Attempts are being made to make this a national law.

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Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

by nicolaou in

another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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blankspace

Er.... That colorful banner looks like its part of a pride parade. Just saying.

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Shift in beliefs?

by blankspace in

i was wondering whether anyone observed this point in the previous week's wt study, in paragraph 17: "jehovah’s spirit moves “the faithful steward” to keep giving his servants their food supply.".

i see this as a subtle move away from earlier claims to be channel for spiritual food.

the gb earlier said that they weren't inspired or infallible.

blankspace

I was wondering whether anyone observed this point in the previous week's WT study, in paragraph 17: "Jehovah’s spirit moves “the faithful steward” to keep giving His servants their food supply."

I see this as a subtle move away from earlier claims to be channel for spiritual food. The GB earlier said that they weren't inspired or infallible. Now they say that Jehovah's spirit moves there to provide food. So logically they're saying that the spirit just motivates them and doesn't speak through them, thereby nullifying earlier claims of them being the John class.

I wonder where this subtle shift in statements is going to lead.

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Toughest time in life

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekf6ghfcqic&list=pl3-srm8xazy-w9gs19plxmyfrtujcuujy&index=11.

cant say much song says it all.. hope can come out of it alive and in one piece.

(hope this is not my last comments).thanks everyone for all your support and kind words.. peace.

blankspace

Hey you okay?

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Has Anyone Seen This?

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

there is a letter doing thr rounds in a few places.its from a jdub in ntherlands pimi, who is beseeching all jdubs about the child abuse issues.

the letter is quite long so do not want to post it as i want only those people who may be interested to read it all,to have it ,and not want people to just ignore it coz of its lengthness.

if anyone wants to have a read just pm me.

blankspace

It's not all that secret. Here's the link with the letter from reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ac4mqj/a_jehovahs_witness_writes_a_letter_to_all/

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Serious Problems Between Elders

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

ever encountered or eyewitnessed problems escalating, arguements and rows between elders right at the kh anyone?.

one such experience was just before the meeting was about to start,we heard raised voices from the second room between two elders.

a minute later two other elders went into the room and we could all hear that they were trying to cool the situation down with whatever was going on in there.

blankspace

Where I grew up, I saw elders come to blows outside the hall while the meeting was in progress. The r&f didn't know what was going on. I found out because I was a curious 5 year old who suddenly found her daddy missing and sneaked away to find him. And I found him held back by two "brothers" while one was getting ready to hit him. I later found out that was because dad was the circuit account servant and had found irregularities in the books. And those were the brothers fudging the numbers.

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A question for you women; what was it really like for you being in the Org?

by Tallon in

hi there folks.. i took a bit of time out from the forum, however i'm back again.. what was it really like for you, your experiences good or bad, etc, in the org?.

if you were granted a listening ear by the gb, what changes would you like to see implemented?.

blankspace

Wasn't too bad for me because I was never submissive and too thick-skinned to be affected by others' comments - until I went to bethel. That's where I learned my "place". But funnily I was assigned to a role in one of the more "elite" departments that would rarely be given to a lowly woman. It was fun to see grown-ass men swallow their pride when they had to get information approved by me. My husband is an open-minded guy and treats me as his equal. He's been an elder for many years and is also PIMO now.

On a side note, I hate the concept of head coverings. It isn't even scriptural and is an entire doctrine founded on a single scripture that applied in principle to an earlier era. I guess it gives the boys' club a kick to see smart women with a cloth on their heads. I find it plain humiliating.