during covid-19 crisis our hall decides to double the amount sent to hq from our local account.
the resolution is unanimously supported, no questions asked.
has anyone else had this happen?.
I know one of my jw relatives told me that the elders approached the family and told them the dire situation they were in and asked if they would be able to donate a little more than the usual?
My relative told the elders;
"How can we, I lost my job?"
The elder suggested;
"You can use your credit card!"
during covid-19 crisis our hall decides to double the amount sent to hq from our local account.
the resolution is unanimously supported, no questions asked.
has anyone else had this happen?.
I bet JWs would be willing to donate more to keep the situation as it is now - not physically going to meetings, no door-to-door, etc.
But isn't that the same as paying to be in a Paradise Earth!!!!
https://i.imgflip.com/42ws6j.jpgfunny what will trigger a memory!.
i spent the night at my best friends house back in 72, i was 13. he had a stack of sears and penny's catalog's stashed under his bed.
in them he had the women's under wear pages all marked!!
When he told his dad what had happened, he said that Sammy wasn't ever going back to the KH if that how they treated young boy's for being curious, his son would have nothing to do with it! And Sammy never again walked into a KH! When his sister found out what had happened, she refused to ever go again as well!!
That's the best story I've ever heard!
i was wondering about this question and wanted to ask: was sin inevitable?
also, i had thought about past watchtower articles or publications related to this topic and did some research and found this from our readers ask if adam was perfect, how was it possible for him to sin?.
well, then, did god create adam with a moral weakness, so that he lacked the ability to make sound decisions or to withstand temptation?
The Gospels may be stories like our Jewish myths that are meant to teach lessons, not report on history. Too many people might have lost the point of the Gospels and attribute to Jesus the wrong things. That would be a shame.
Thanks For the information.
i was wondering about this question and wanted to ask: was sin inevitable?
also, i had thought about past watchtower articles or publications related to this topic and did some research and found this from our readers ask if adam was perfect, how was it possible for him to sin?.
well, then, did god create adam with a moral weakness, so that he lacked the ability to make sound decisions or to withstand temptation?
Hey Carmichael
The Jews didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah is because the historical Jesus of Nazareth was nothing like the Gospel Jesus
Could you shed some light on what you mean by the historical Jesus was nothing like the Gospel Jesus?
Are the Gospel stories of Jesus just made up?
Was Jesus just a preacher like Charles Russell and then Christians added the story of Jesus resurrecting Lazarus, feeding thousands with a few fishes and bread, walking on water and so on?
OR--was Jesus just another Ron Hubbard who turned religious, became a preacher, and just happened to attract a small group of people who just by coincidence grew into this world-wide phenomena called----CHRISTIANS?
it seems like the only possibilities are women of color.
no whites need apply.. maybe he will change his mind and ask hillary clinton?
?.
Kamala Harris!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxHORNMWPmg
I have no idea what the Democratic party is thinking. Kamala Harris didn't even get 1% of the vote from Democrats when she was running for president. Everyone hates her.
I think that's a smart pick for Biden, not only is she smart and well educated and has an aggressive personality but she will also pull in the ethnic vote because of her ancestry background.
Fink, "These days" everyone that runs for President has Academic degree of some sort.
Even Kanye West who "might" still be running for President has honorary doctorate degree
And just about any one in political office in the USA is "Well Educated" - and has an aggressive personality. Just a few members in congress have no degree but were successful businessmen at one point. And they were voted into congress by small districts who didn't know any better.
Joe Biden just lost millions of voters because of picking Kamala as her vice president. Just about every one at my place of work is Democratic, my entire family and extended family is Democratic. And after finding out Joe picked Kamala for VP---all of my family and just about everyone at work is voting Republican.
They don't like Trump, but they know Kamala and Biden will take away gun rights, disband S.S. Take away property rights from every citizen. And give the power to those in the ruling class to dictate what the average citizen can or cannot do. They know these two want to bring in a Socialist Government to run the nation and many moderate Democrats will vote Republican for another 4 years until something better comes around in 2024.
The only problem I see is if neither Trump or Biden gets the 270 electoral Votes.
If no candidate receives the minimum 270 electoral votes needed to win the election, Then the United States House of Representatives will select the president, and the United States Senate will select the vice president
This would actually be the best outcome because there is a war brewing and this would calm things down because you would have a Democratic President and a Republican Vice President.
Which means nothing would get done for the next 4 years, but it would also calm people down from starting a civil war.
i was wondering about this question and wanted to ask: was sin inevitable?
also, i had thought about past watchtower articles or publications related to this topic and did some research and found this from our readers ask if adam was perfect, how was it possible for him to sin?.
well, then, did god create adam with a moral weakness, so that he lacked the ability to make sound decisions or to withstand temptation?
Carmichael
According to the Gospel accounts, most of what Jesus does is in secret, such as his healings and when he raises the dead. He impresses heavily upon others not to tell the public that they know he is the Messiah. And when he is glorified in the Transfiguration he forbids the apostles to tell anyone of the event until he is dead.
--No, Jesus sounds more like Joseph Smith who secretly received golden plates with the Book of Mormon and visions of angels, things no one else ever saw. People had to take what Smith said he had in his possession and what he claimed to have heard from heaven on faith.
Hey Carmichael,
Liked all the information you have posted on why Jews didn’t accept Jesus. I had some idea but your information cleared and added a lot of detail that I was missing. It makes sense what you said.
Also, I never considered the depth of what it meant that the Jews considered the Christians apostates of Jewish biblical text up to that point when Christians appeared.
Now I know why it’s very hard to mesh the Hebrew Scriptures with the Greek scriptures.
They don’t belong together!
Hell if only people knew this.
Perhaps they will in another 1000 years!
it seems like the only possibilities are women of color.
no whites need apply.. maybe he will change his mind and ask hillary clinton?
?.
Biden doesn't even remember who he is anymore.
Did He forget how Tulsi Gabbard blew Kamala Harris out of the Presidential Race?
The entire Country saw Kamala for what she really is, which is why she dropped out of the Presidential race a few days after this.
Start the Video at 4.00 to see what happened.
they don’t go to conventions .
they don’t go to assemblies.
they don’t go to meetings.
It’s disturbing when we see people who have been here for years and are active elders. They know better and yet they still lead the double life for years and years.
You're joking right!!! It would be crazy if that were true.
That would make them characters of weak moral fortitude.
Even trying to help your family has a time limit.
And to waste your entire life leading a double- life smacks cowardice.
to be born a woman is a great disadvantage in many parts of the world and much more if she is part of a destructive sect like the jehovah’s witnesses where she is submitted to the “theocratic order” being the base that sustains the corporate pyramid, displaying submission at all times before male authority.
those of us that have been part of this cult can verify that the woman has to carry out a series of practices that for the rest of society is somewhat incomprehensible.
i’d like to draw your attention to the act of head covering, if for any reason a woman has to pray in public while a male is present, who is not available to lead the prayer, she must cover her head because she wouldn’t be respecting the arrangement of authority if she didn’t.
Pete Zahut
I don't think anyone was intentionally "oppressed" from being a JW. Mislead, yes but the missed opportunities and wasted talents that both men and women experienced came from listening to men who (usually) had the best of intent when trying to apply ancient Middle East values in a modern western world. No one held a gun to our heads. A lot of young JW's had the courage early on, to do what they had to do to free themselves regardless of the consequences.
There is real oppression that took place in history and is still going on in the world but not many JW's today in the western world can (in my opinion) truly say they were "oppressed". Much of what we experienced, we allowed to happen because it was easier than having to face reality and make a big change. There was a personal payoff we enjoyed by staying as long as we did.
Your observations are dead on center Mr P-Zahut
I was a JW and things were great for me. No one oppressed me, most elders were very kind and nice to me. Some were ass holes but isn't that the case everywhere else. There are good and bad in all organizations.
I had lots of good friends that helped me when I needed help. The door was always open for me to leave the organization, no one kept me in prison like some kind of slave like Spartacus.
When I found out about 607 not being the real date. I had a choice. I did research, and decided that going to all those meetings, field service, and conventions was a lot of hard work for something that was not actually true. Once I found out after a couple of years of research that there was not going to be a paradise earth, I didn't think it was worth it to stay in anymore. I just stop going without an explanation. I didn't think it was necessary to give anyone an explanation and make a big stink about it. I also didn't cry because I was leaving several friends.
I find it kind of strange that some who leave the JWs get severely depress because of losing all their jw friends. Isn't there almost 8 billions souls out there that might possibly be your friend?
I am sure others have bad experiences with the JWs. Perhaps some were abused as children, perhaps others lost someone they loved to the blood transfusion doctrine, perhaps some lost out on a good career and struggled and got old and poor.
I don't think it's so much the JWs that are to blame, but instead we need to realize that this is the world we were born into. A person doesn't get an Owner's manual or set of instructions when he/she is born. And if your parents don't have any idea on what's going on, guess what, then neither will you!
The Universe doesn't care about us. We deal with the cards we are dealt and play the game the best we can and don't blame anyone for our misfortune.
I will quote something that put me in the right perspective.
During the minute it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are being slowly devoured from within by rasping parasites; thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst and disease.
We were born in a world of blind physical forces, It does not matter who or what gets hurt. Some people are going to get hurt and some people are going to get "Lucky". No person on the planet will find any rhyme or reason in the justice and injustice that some of us will suffer, and nature is not interesting one way or another if we suffer every single day of our life, or if we become one of the world's billionaires and have more happiness than 99.9% of the people on the planet.
So you do the best to survive. And if you are lucky and obtain a little wisdom, you just might make it to 90. In the meantime roll with the punches. Enjoy love, enjoy good food, buy as many nice things as you are able to afford and enjoy. Try to stay as healthy as possible. Find some good friends of the opposite sex that you can talk to about anything and can count on as a close friend. Avoid people who bring you down. You have 8 billion humans to choose from.
I wonder how these women in the OP would feel if they were born in Saudi Arabia where women are totally controlled in every aspect of their life, from the time they come out of the womb, to the day they die, by some "Real" dominating bad men.
What if some of these women were able to escape their situation in Saudi Arabia when they were 50 years of age and the JWs were the ones who were there for them when they escaped. Helping them set up a home, lots of friends, food,etc
I wonder if the JWs would be as bad in their eyes as described by the OP?
