so i was observing an online conversation between a jw and a former-jw.
the non-jw pointed out that wwi cant have had anything to do with satan supposedly being "cast out of heaven" because wwi was already well under way in oct 1914.. the jw proceeds to explain that satan was actually thrown down to the earth in 1915 and that he started to wreak havock on the earth from heaven knowing he was about to be cast out.. so 1914 is officially old light now?
does anyone have a source for that or was this brother lying through his teeth?.
Would we really be surprised if they dropped 1914 completely and said;
"A better understanding of events marking the last days has been revealed"
Would we be surprised if the majority of the members accepted it without questioning it?
(Amos 3:7) . . .For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing Unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets.
i see no more preaching.
no more door knocking.
no more car groups.
Growing up in this cult if someone would have said one day JWs will be standing next to a cart playing video games and counting time while the GB has its own TV channel doing a weekly TV show I would have said never going to happen.
Someone said the other day that in 3 years the JW's Religion will cease to exist.
I say; "IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!
thanks petra and atlantis for providing the latest announcements from the watchtower.. they are telling congregations to replace the 15 minute local needs talk in the midweek meeting of october 26th with a talk on neutrality.
i am not sure if this is due to there being a usa election on tues 3rd, november or because of their worldwide preaching campaign targeting government officials.
it does sound like it is due to the usa election due to comments about propaganda and political promises.
This whole letter campaign has the potential to be politically dangerous for them as the magazine they are sending says their Government will be destroyed.
JWs with all their Armageddon Rhetoric to government officials pose no threat whatsoever. They are not viewed as some radical group like antifa, wearing black, with masks on, and waving torches and inciting riots.
JWs are known as a fringed religious group of timid people, that consist mostly of women - and men who are clean shaven, and wearing 60s suits, who have been preaching the Armageddon for the past 140 years.
They and their messages are inconsequential.
This message to officials will come and go just like all their warning messages for the past 140 years have come and gone.
And then they will boast in coming magazines and conventions for years to come on how brave they were to warn government officials around the world.
does anybody know what this message will contain ?
is it designed to provoke a response that will bring persecution on the religion ?
or is it just going to be some meaningless weak campaign to get the rank and file all excited about it and achieving nothing.. or is it going to suggest to the government officials that this mob could very well be the next jonestown /wacol incident and we need to act now.
Or is it just going to be some meaningless weak campaign to get the rank and file all excited about it and achieving nothing.
This!
The GB is not stupid enough to disrupt their peaceful accommodations in their compound.
What would Tony do with his stored supply of Macallan Whiskey if persecution started in the United States.
Plus, if I was a High Ranking Politician that was approached by a couple of individuals that handed me a tract stating the Jehovah is about to destroy all the governments in the world----I would just call security or perhaps EMS services to escort these poor souls to a medical facility for the needed help.
Then I would get back to business.
ughhhhh wife wants to pioneer.
our future together doesn't look promising .
i told her she doesn’t know what she is getting into.
She lacks any reasoning ability and doesn't care. How could someone be smart in alot of areas be so mentally lacking in this area.
It's not really about lacking reasoning ability or "Smarts", It's about the level of indoctrination that your wife is in.
What you could do is "Pull the Headship Doctrine Card" and call it a Royal flush.
"Hon, I'm sorry, but as head of my household, I don't want you to regular pioneer"
(for what ever reason you want to make up)
(1 Corinthians 11:3) . . .But I want YOU to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the Christ is God. . .
i just saw the congregation analysis report for 2020, a form i have not noticed before.
it asks for the number of "active publishers.
" this is a term i have not seen specified before.
I was wondering why they hadn't done this a few years back. I knew it would only be a matter of time since the Organization is going through a drain. The only thing that surprises me is that they still hold on to the six consecutive months instead of changing it to 12 consecutive months for a member to become officially inactive.
All they are doing now is trying to evade the inevitable for as long as possible.
It's what I would do if my business was going sour!
what was confusing at first when this pandemic started, was why in some states or, in the same state but different cities, or same city but different county, or same county but different towns, some of the leaders like city council, mayor, or governor would shut down businesses in one area, but allow other businesses of the same nature to stay open.
for example, shut down a car wash in one area of town, but allow another car wash to stay open in another area of town.
the answer is very simple----corruption by the leaders.. this is why voting is not only important, but, also getting to know as much as possible who you are voting into office.
Deaths would have been greatly curtailed if politically driven FDA had not released false reports about Hydroxychloroquine
They are playing with our lives like it's some game. But they don't put their own lives on the line, just the lives of those under their rule.
what was confusing at first when this pandemic started, was why in some states or, in the same state but different cities, or same city but different county, or same county but different towns, some of the leaders like city council, mayor, or governor would shut down businesses in one area, but allow other businesses of the same nature to stay open.
for example, shut down a car wash in one area of town, but allow another car wash to stay open in another area of town.
the answer is very simple----corruption by the leaders.. this is why voting is not only important, but, also getting to know as much as possible who you are voting into office.
What was confusing at first when this pandemic started, was why in some States or, in the Same State but different cities, or same city but different county, or same county but different towns, some of the leaders like City Council, Mayor, or Governor would shut down businesses in one area, but allow other businesses of the same nature to stay open.
For example, shut down a car wash in one area of town, but allow another car wash to stay open in another area of town.
The answer is very simple----CORRUPTION by the LEADERS.
This is why voting is not only important, but, also getting to know as much as possible who you are voting into office.
In the USA, every State, City, County, and town has a personality that reflects its voted leaders. If your leaders are corrupt, and above the law, then more than likely YOU or YOUR FAMILY will be a victim of injustice at some point in your life.
Here is an example of corruption in one area in the State of Texas.
some believe protesters have the “right” to block main roads, traffic and other places simply because they have a right to protest something.. in la, two deputies were ambushed and shot in the head and as the ambulance tried to take the fallen deputies to the emergency room, protesters blocked the way chanting they wished the police would die!
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in nyc blm protesters blocked the george washington bridge and other major highways and streets to protest for their cause.. do you think this is acceptable?
In LA, two deputies were ambushed and shot in the head and as the ambulance tried to take the fallen deputies to the emergency room, protesters blocked the way chanting they wished the police would DIE!
Game on.
against our wishes she got baptised at 16 because she got brainwashed by her cousin.
the last year or so she hasn't been so gung ho about the "truth".
anyway the elders came down on her for not getting her time in the last couple months because she absolutely hates zoom letter writing.
One of my little brothers was also getting negative advice from the elders once he turned 15. Our parents were jws so all of us are born in the religion and we had to deal with all the WT crap. I never got baptized and left the house at 18. But my brother was feeling the pressure to get baptized, to reach out for pioneering, and Ministerial Servant. My parents thought they were doing my little brother a favor by letting the elders take him under their wing. Instead my brother started getting very depressed to the point that he was talking suicide. My parents let me know and I started taking my brother with me on Weekends.
I knew what my brother was going through because the elders did the same thing with me. So I took less than 10 minutes a week to google any article that dealt with people putting down other people and copy and paste about half a page of information and read it to my brother and give it to him and told him to just go over it for a week and we would talk about it the next weekend.
The purpose of the articles was to let my brother know that there are people in this world that tear people down and we need to stay away from them.
Every week I would give my brother a half of page of information dealing with this subject and what we could do about it.
In around six months my brother started avoiding all the elders. He made all kinds of excuses not to meet with them. He did the same with our parents. He learned how to deal with these types of people by just reading the small articles that I copy and pasted for him.
Today my little brother is finishing his degree in Civil Engineering and he never got baptized.
We have done the same with my other brothers and sisters, and so far none of them have gotten baptized.
Here is an example of copy and paste that I would give my brother. It took me less than 3 minutes to find and paste.
Why is it necessary to protect ourselves?
See, the tragedy is that if you’re told enough times that you’re not good enough sooner or later you’ll start to believe it, especially if the someone who’s telling you you’re not good enough is someone you care about or love.
People who bring you down do things that make progress more difficult or more painful. We are all trying to move forward in life and make progress. Happiness and success is what we all strive to achieve. Having someone tell us we are not good enough or that we can’t achieve anything makes our progress very difficult
You need to take control of your happiness. The only happiness you can count on is the kind you create with your own effort. This kind of happiness comes from the process of progress.
