Not just Jehovah's Witnesses but most Christians are under the assumption that the World was made for us. But all evidence in the past and today shows that the world was made for those that adapt to the conditions of this planet. Literally millions animals and beings related to Homo Sapiens have become extinct. They were not able to adapt. We as Homo Sapiens were fortunate to be able to adapt. Volcanos and Tsunamis are just part of the inherent way that our planet is. The earth was never intended to be a paradise for people to live forever
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Tsunamis and Volcanos: why?
by StephaneLaliberte involcano eruptions and tsunamis kill at large scale and very often, without warning.
how do believers explain these away?
jehovah's witnesses say that humans die and suffer due to the original sin, but what do volcano's and tsunamis have to do with it?
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Do you think “Eventually” the Whole World will become Socialist?
by pistolpete inwhen i say; “socialist” i don’t mean everyone is equal.
instead i am referring to “leaders” being rich and powerful, whereas the ordinary citizen being poor, and powerless.. i was surprise that the majority of the world is run by socialist government.
the last few countries that are not socialist are the united states and parts of europe.
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Here is something that Democrats will do for all the people with College debt if they win the Senate. If so, who do you think they will vote for next coming election. This is Socialism lure to capture votes.
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Do you think “Eventually” the Whole World will become Socialist?
by pistolpete inwhen i say; “socialist” i don’t mean everyone is equal.
instead i am referring to “leaders” being rich and powerful, whereas the ordinary citizen being poor, and powerless.. i was surprise that the majority of the world is run by socialist government.
the last few countries that are not socialist are the united states and parts of europe.
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mickbobcat
socialism is an arbitrary word. The US and many countries are capitalist with a social safety net.
I agree, like USA has Social Security and Medicare as a safety net. But the definition is being redefined by Democrat progressives like AOC and the young people coming out of College. Socialist as they define it is Government takes over "EVERYTHING" not just S.S. and other safety nets. It's a sly way of a few in power take command over everything----What kind of jobs you can do, no individual patents, all new inventions belong to the government, what food is produce, all property is own by the government, what health care you need decided by government, and etc.
Communism and socialism are tried again and again and failed again and again.
I agree, but it doesn't stop idiots from trying it again with a few tweaks here and there, which is what is happening now.
Somehow, people like this got into a position of power.
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Do you think “Eventually” the Whole World will become Socialist?
by pistolpete inwhen i say; “socialist” i don’t mean everyone is equal.
instead i am referring to “leaders” being rich and powerful, whereas the ordinary citizen being poor, and powerless.. i was surprise that the majority of the world is run by socialist government.
the last few countries that are not socialist are the united states and parts of europe.
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Nikolaus
The same would be misleading about self-proclaimed democratic states like "Democratic Republik of Korea" and "German Democratic Republic".
There are many dictorship that call themselves "democratic" or "socialist" because it sounds good. Do not look at lables but at actions.
That's a good point and so very true. PROCLAIMED Democratic states is not the same as REAL Democratic states.
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Do you think “Eventually” the Whole World will become Socialist?
by pistolpete inwhen i say; “socialist” i don’t mean everyone is equal.
instead i am referring to “leaders” being rich and powerful, whereas the ordinary citizen being poor, and powerless.. i was surprise that the majority of the world is run by socialist government.
the last few countries that are not socialist are the united states and parts of europe.
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When I say; “Socialist” I don’t mean everyone is equal. Instead I am referring to “Leaders” being Rich and Powerful, whereas the ordinary citizen being Poor, and Powerless.
I was surprise that the majority of the World is run by Socialist Government. The last few Countries that are not Socialist are the United States and parts of Europe. See details on link below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states#Current_socialist_states
Many Political leaders are using the Covid Pandemic as an excuse to meet early next year to form a Globalist Power Structure which will consists of Billionaires around the world, Corporations, and Political leaders, including those from Socialist Countries like China----AND RESET THE WORLD ECONOMY AND LAW STRUCTURE. (One set of Laws for all Countries)
This will include LAWS that will be binding on every citizen in every Country. Buying and selling products will be regulated by big Corporations. The laws will include punishment for any dissent, restraint or negative criticism against the Global Administration.
Trump had separated the United States from such a World Coalition. Trump was Nationalistic and wanted the United States to stay away from any Socialist Type Ideology. There is much talk that there were many Globalist who funded many left wing groups to interfere in the USA election. And of course Democrats label such talk as conspiracy and lies. If you had the opportunity to watch such videos, you will notice that those videos looks so familiar to the videos the Watchtower puts out against exjws and calls them liars and apostates. Biden has already said he plans to join the Global Forum.
Here is Justin Trudeau talking about the opportunity to Reset the Global situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2fp0Jeyjvw
Here Beck mentions this situation way back in July
And here we are in November
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If you leave the WT and don’t get vaccinated, you will still have the virus and keep getting sick
by pistolpete inso the past couple of years, i’ve read several stories about jws who left the organization at an early age because they knew something wasn’t right------but they never bothered to research the religion.
there was this feeling that the watchtower was not god’s only channel.
so they left at an early age.
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LongHairGal
Also, the attitude is there that single women are temptresses looking to steal husbands!
I'm not sure why, but I've noticed this is the case in "most" Christian religions. It probably has to do with the way women are portrayed in the Bible. You know David already had wives but Bathsheba stole him from them, in a matter of speaking. Or the way the bible describes prostitutes like in Revelation.Or Eve who tempted Adam.
Who knows but this is reality.
Diogenesister
That very thing could have happened to my kids if it weren't for the ARC, Ray Franz and this site.
I read a lot of sad stories of exjw parents who left the WT but never did enough research to learn how ALL the Teachings of WT are dangerous, but many in a very subtly way. One couple decided to keep some of the teachings and teach them to the kids. When the kids grew up and JWs knocked on their door, they were ripe for being harvested into the religion. In time the elders and others warn them that the parents left Jehovah and should be treated like apostates. The children called the parents and told them they would not associate or talk to them until they came back to Jehovah's Organization. Decades went by very quickly with no contact with their children or grandchildren. In the meantime the father died.
The parent posting the experience was in her 80s and on her death bed and wanted to see her children and grandchildren, but the children refused to visit her in her last days. Don't know what happen to that lady but she never posted again.
It's important for exjws to research extensively and get rid of all indoctrination.
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If you leave the WT and don’t get vaccinated, you will still have the virus and keep getting sick
by pistolpete inso the past couple of years, i’ve read several stories about jws who left the organization at an early age because they knew something wasn’t right------but they never bothered to research the religion.
there was this feeling that the watchtower was not god’s only channel.
so they left at an early age.
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Here's an example of how many wake up in just one hour's time on Reddit alone. Imagine others who wake up on other sites or just wake up.
Every day approx. 4-5 new jws post asking for help and want answers why there is so many reports on child abuse in the organization.
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If you leave the WT and don’t get vaccinated, you will still have the virus and keep getting sick
by pistolpete inso the past couple of years, i’ve read several stories about jws who left the organization at an early age because they knew something wasn’t right------but they never bothered to research the religion.
there was this feeling that the watchtower was not god’s only channel.
so they left at an early age.
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So the past couple of years, I’ve read several stories about Jws who left the Organization at an early age because they knew something wasn’t right------But they Never bothered to research the religion.
There was this feeling that the Watchtower was not God’s only channel. So they left at an early age. Many went to College to become engineers, doctors, lawyers, psychologists, Scientists, and other higher level educated people.
They even married non-jws and raised a family.
And here comes the problem. Regardless of how educated they got, regardless of the fact that they cut off all association with Jehovah’s Witnesses, ------ they still believed Noah’s flood happen, 1914 was the beginning of the last days, demons were real and had a desire for beautiful women, --------and DON’T READ APOSTATE SITES.
And these lingering beliefs, are passed on to the children------INADVERTENTLY!
I've read many experiences where the parent left the organization but didn't get rid of the indoctrination, only to unintentionally pass the "WT Ideas" to the children. The children in turn started studying with JWs when they left the house and had their own family. And eventually the children got baptized and had no choice but to shun their parents for the rest of the parent's life. Not allowing the grandchildren to even visit grandmother because she didn't serve Jehovah.
There is no way around it, in order to free yourself completely from Watchtower indoctrination, in most cases you need help. A person needs to visit some legit exjw sites or read legit exjw books like “Gentile Times Reconsidered. A person can do it on his own but I will take longer, and the research will be harder.
Here is the latest daily experience of a lady who left 16 years ago and finally gave herself permission to look at an APOSTATE SITE.
These are her words;
I’m 16 years out. I have to work on some long overdue reprogramming......It will help me teach my daughter independent thinking when she’s older.
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73 years old, a Witness for 48 years, an elder for 24 years, Baptized just before 1975. WOKE UP!
by pistolpete ini thought i would post an encouraging experience i found today.
i've been seeing a lot of 70-80 year old jws waking up, and their children are posting their experience on reddit.
these are old elders, pioneers, circuit overseers who have given their everything and finally at the end of their life, are walking away.. maybe the key to waking up is that a person has to have a deep sense of right and wrong.
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Here is another experience by a 75 year old jw posted on the same experience.
isettaplus19598 hours ago · edited 8 hours agoI'm 75 ,I woke up about 5 years ago after joining jws in 1963 .It was the kind GB that did it for me .they pushed us older ones onto the internet ,I knew something was wrong for years but could never quite put my finger on it .I guess I never felt relaxed and happy with the constant pressure to do more .the internet revealed all the lies and false information that we had been fed ,and the wicked child abuse cover up . My wife is still jw we have a truce .she accused me of leaving Jehovah however I told her that I had not left them but could no longer trust the GB . The biggest change was the anointed no longer being the faithfull slave but only the GB being the slave .that meant that ever since the time of pastor Russell the whole doctrine had been false !. The whole thing is now morphing into a new on line trash internet religion with no real substance .
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73 years old, a Witness for 48 years, an elder for 24 years, Baptized just before 1975. WOKE UP!
by pistolpete ini thought i would post an encouraging experience i found today.
i've been seeing a lot of 70-80 year old jws waking up, and their children are posting their experience on reddit.
these are old elders, pioneers, circuit overseers who have given their everything and finally at the end of their life, are walking away.. maybe the key to waking up is that a person has to have a deep sense of right and wrong.
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LongHairGal
.I got out about twenty years ago and can’t imagine still sitting there through all that!
It was a CLOSE CALL LongHairGal. Not many are smart enough to see the danger.
