Posts by pistolpete

i know there are a lot of 'wise heads' out there on this forum - so i would appreciate your suggestions.. several years ago, i studied with a guy, whose wife is a jw.

(he had studied with several elders before i came along).

the study went reasonably well.

pistolpete

I personally feel he is (understandably) torn between his wife and what he knows to be the real truth about WT.

Me personally, getting in the middle of a husband and his wife over religious belief is disaster waiting to happen. You sent him information from jwfacts and that's plenty of direction for a big boy to start researching on his own.

Plus he already told you;

but rather forcefully, told me not to send anymore anti-JW stuff.

Let him discuss the bible with his wife and deal with it that way. He's not a little kid that needs someone to hold is hand.

I would just call it a day and avoid situations that might cause you unnecessary Drama.

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Masks Are Coming Off

by minimus in

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a number of states are allowing people to not wear a mask.

some think this is disastrous!

what’s your view?.

pistolpete

When anyone dies, the Democrats will blame the conservative Governor, and if it's a liberal Governor, they will blame Trump.

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Looking back a year at Covid

by pistolpete in

march of last year covid was declared a pandemic that would take hundreds of millions of lives world wide.. here are the facts after a year.. the world population is 7,800,000,000 (billions).

114,770,269 millions of people have caught the virus as of today.

aprox 91 million recovered from the virus,.

pistolpete

FedUpJW

Centers for Disease Control reporting protocol requires that anyone who tested positive for COVID-19 within 30 days of their death be included in these numbers

You are correct FedUPJW

Here is what CDC says on how one determines what a person dies off.

Basically they leave it up to the physician or other certifier to use their judgement on what to write on the Certificate. But it's almost impossible to be absolutely sure what the person died of when considering the elderly. The past couple of weeks tons of counties across the USA are being exposed that many of their hospitals have lied regarding the real cause of deaths on the supposed "Covid" Deaths. It's possible that the actual number of Covid deaths in the USA is off by 50%

Quote CDC:

Because there are no objective measures of what caused a person’s death, cause-of-death statements are a medical opinion. Even an autopsy may not reveal an obvious cause of death, and the certifier must still decide which conditions to report as causes of death on the death certificate. When laboratory confirmation is inconclusive or unavailable, certifiers determine and report the causes of death on the death certificate based on medical history, medical records, autopsy report (if available), and other relevant sources of information. The physician or other certifier should always use his or her best medical judgment in determining and reporting the cause(s) of death on death certificates. It is the certifier’s responsibility to make these determinations.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/covid19/faq.htm#CertifyingDeathsDuetoCOVID19

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Australia: Jehovah’s Witnesses to join redress scheme for child sexual abuse survivors

by yalbmert99 in

australia: jehovah’s witnesses to join redress scheme for child sexual abuse survivors.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/03/03/jehovahs-witnesses-redress-scheme/.

pistolpete

The Watchtower organization incorporated is not the same organization as the bygone years of the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

The world publicly entered the internet age in 1993. From that day forward the Watchtower started losing power. Now we have social media, SJW, Cancel culture, that will blow the WT away in an instant if they don't summit to the powers that are.

The Watchtower now only has control of a few members who are on the verge of finally dying off. All the WT is doing now is trying to survive as long as they can.

They don't pose any real threat in the world. Their 15 minutes of fame is up.

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Looking back a year at Covid

by pistolpete in

march of last year covid was declared a pandemic that would take hundreds of millions of lives world wide.. here are the facts after a year.. the world population is 7,800,000,000 (billions).

114,770,269 millions of people have caught the virus as of today.

aprox 91 million recovered from the virus,.

pistolpete

Brock Talon

Well put! 👍👍

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What JW Subjects Interest You The Most On This Site? What Doesn’t??

by minimus in

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i like subjects that delve into the history of the religion and proofs that the witnesses are not the true religion.

i’m not so much into apologists saying we need to go to meetings, especially if the poster looks like a scammer trying to get ex jws going.

what subjects interest you ?

pistolpete

LongHairGal
With regard to retirement, most people are grateful that they can retire at ALL when they reach actual retirement age and thankfully I planned for this and never listened to anybody’s foolish talk to the contrary!

LongHairGal, I know many single jw ladies who are in their 70s and working at whatever. Some never got married, some got married and got divorced, and some got married and their husbands passed. I feel sorry when I see them cleaning a office at night. No 70 year old lady should have to do that. But that is the price for continuing in the WT religion even when all the signs are there that it’ a sham. Good thing you got out in time.

On the other side of the spectrum I have met many single non-jw ladies who worked hard all their life. They never depended on a man to care for them. They got their hands dirty, and did whatever they had to when they were young and are now living a nice comfortable life enjoying their retirement. This is what we as humans need to do. We can't depend on another human, (husband or wife) to care for us. We have to look for ourselves and put that responsibility on our own shoulders.

The Watchtower teaches their members that Jehovah will care for their needs if they put the organization first. That is so dangerous and many are paying the price now that they are in their golden years. Sad!!!!!

My situation was the result of being forced to choose what kind of life I wanted to live. Of course I was born in a different situation than most of the posters here. They for the most part didn’t have access the internet.

But I was born in the internet age. I had access to everything by the time I was 5 years old. By the time I was 10 and attending the jw meetings, I was looking up Watchtower, 607, 1914, and the Bible on the internet. By the time I was 13 I knew the Watchtower was all a sham. By the time I was 15 years old, I knew my family was never going to leave the religion. By the time I was 16 I knew I had a choice to make when I turned 18.

Live the life of a JW which was based on falsehood and keep my family

or

Chose a life that I believed was normal and would make me happy.

I choose to leave my jw way of life which included my family and jw friends. I even had a jw girlfriend.

The internet guided my road to success.

I was young and strong, so I worked several part time jobs and went to school part time. I lived in shitty apartments for about 10 years. Bought a junky car for $400. It had bundle on the doors and fenders, and I kept buying used tires for about 10 dollars a pop for the next 10 years.

I stayed away from girls. Because I learned on the internet that girls lead to sex, and sex leads to children and children lead to responsibilities, and child caring leads to 20 or more years of caring for children and that is a good way to derail a plan of getting a good education and getting financially stable for the rest of your life.

My first degree was in business. This is where I learned about what it takes to be a business owner. I took extra classes – no credit – on political science- and Science courses.

I took a job as a plumber’s helper, unclogging nasty toilets and digging ditches and all the nasty stuff that the master plumbers wouldn’t do.

My boss saw that I was a hard worker and dependable so he slowly started showing me how to weld, some electrical, some construction, and some HVAC.

Long story short, I eventually got my master’s plumber license, my Boss sold his business and retired, I started my own business. Most of the businesses already knew me so they signed contracts with my company. I had to start hiring master plumbers quite quickly. I got contracts with many corporate companies.

My plumbing business extended to construction. Some companies wanted me to do their HVAC so I sub-contracted HVAC contractors and made money of them.

And ironically I didn’t lose my jw family.

I think a lot of it was meeting the right people at the right time.

Isn’t that how this crazy life works.

But also planning, sacrificing, and working hard was involved.

Just read the story of how Justin Bieber got started. He is a few years younger than me and his net worth is about 284 MILLION. All because “Someone” saw him on YouTube, reported him to Ellen. Ellen had him on TV. Some saw him on TV and the rest is history.

Now imagine Justine Bieber was a Jehovah Witnesses. Right now he would be writing letters and attending ZOOM meetings. And his net worth would be about $5 since he would be a Regular pioneer.

Life is crazy isn’t it, But it’s crazier if you stay in the Watchtower religion. No Retirement!

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What JW Subjects Interest You The Most On This Site? What Doesn’t??

by minimus in

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i like subjects that delve into the history of the religion and proofs that the witnesses are not the true religion.

i’m not so much into apologists saying we need to go to meetings, especially if the poster looks like a scammer trying to get ex jws going.

what subjects interest you ?

pistolpete

Pistol, if JW Subjects bore you why are you here? Just asking

I like the drama on here on political subjects because many of the posters are not from the USA yet they are affected emotionally, maybe otherwise by what happens here. I find it fascinating that they have strong opinions on Trump, Biden, Conservatives and liberals in our Country. Yet they don't live here.

Since I've been here, I had no idea others countries had strong opinions on our freedom to have Guns, and the misinformation that the USA is like the wild wild west with hundreds of millions of murders.

I didn't know about their health care system, their immigration policies, their problems. Just reading some of their experiences makes me grateful for what I have because of living in what I believe is the greatest country in the world.

What I've come to find out since reading some post on this sub is that I really had no idea what other people in other countries thought about us here in the USA. I had no idea about the problems they faced. I'm trying to expand my knowledge of other countries and people because honestly I was very ignorant of what was happening in other parts of the world.Still am.

Now for the first time in my life I'm looking at news outside my county and it's hard for me to believe that some of the stuff happening in others places is actually real. But it is real.

But jw stuff-------LOL----They are only .001 of the population. I doubt they will be around in 40 or 50 years. They pose no real threat, they are on the decline, and the only ones holding the fort are those 60 years of age an up. The young ones couldn't care less about doctrine. Most of them figure out 607, 1914, last days, etc by the time they are 13 years old. And they do it using the internet and common sense. Plus there are tons of YouTubers who have something to say about the Watchtower.

The main concern of born in jws is not whether the Watchtower is God's Channel, but instead it is HOW DO I GET OUT AND TAKE CARE OF MYSELF ONCE I REACH 18 YEARS OF AGE.

Exjw reddit has over 60,000 jws most of them under 18 years of age. Their main concern is how to leave and afford college and a place to live. Not doctrine. Most already know the bible is not God's word, just a collections of ancient books.

That's basically it.

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What JW Subjects Interest You The Most On This Site? What Doesn’t??

by minimus in

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friends

i like subjects that delve into the history of the religion and proofs that the witnesses are not the true religion.

i’m not so much into apologists saying we need to go to meetings, especially if the poster looks like a scammer trying to get ex jws going.

what subjects interest you ?

pistolpete

in 20 years this site has discussed every JW subject.

Which is why JW subjects bore me.

When I left at 18---actually sooner but I couldn't leave home, I never looked back. Once I figured out what the Watchtower was ---- just another religion, I figured it wasn't worth my time to continue to delve in it.

Instead I educated myself on how reality works. Whether people like it or not, Politics and how the economy works in your country determines whether you will be poor and struggle for life just to make ends meet, or rich and able to retire by the time you hit your 30s. I chose to learn politics and economics. And I topped it off with Science and law.

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JW Net and Politics

by snare&racket in

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this site was and remains instrumental in assisting people that want to leave the jw's.. there has been political discussion here for some time now, a good couple of years and it makes me feel a little uneasy.

i just opened up the site for the first time in some weeks, of the 10 posts being discussed, 4 were by the same poster, about politics, promoting their right wing beliefs.. this has been the trend for some time now, the same name behind a peppering of posts stirring the right v left of politics.. i remain forever grateful to the site and it's founders simon & angharad, i appreciate that simon shares some of these these political beliefs.

it would be a shame to see the site evolve from a place for jw freedom of thought and escape, to political squabbling, that the world is frankly tired of right now.. just to clarify, politics is my hobby, whilst my friends read the football scores, i'm reading polling data.

pistolpete

Blast from the past. (Just so everyone knows I'm not making this stuff up)

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/67757/liberal-equals-ex-jw

TD thanks for posting that link up. It was very interesting to see that people back then were basically the same as today.

In fact no different than 2000 years ago when people were upset at the Roman Government and were looking for a King in the line of David.

Along came a man who said he was of the line of David and his Kingdom was going to take control.

Then they killed him.

But the "Idea" of a Perfect Government still exists today.