Holy s**t say it aint so! The
vaccine has untended side effects that may be lethal??? The most tested
vaccine in history??? No! Cant be.
They already removed it and put something else. They don't want anyone to know the Truth.
a number of states are allowing people to not wear a mask.
some think this is disastrous!
what’s your view?.
Holy s**t say it aint so! The
vaccine has untended side effects that may be lethal??? The most tested
vaccine in history??? No! Cant be.
They already removed it and put something else. They don't want anyone to know the Truth.
so yesterday while i was doing some work for a customer, i noticed the wt mags on the sofa.
and i asked the elderly man if he was a jehovah witness?.
he said that he and his wife and all his children were raised in the religion, but only he and his wife attend the meetings or zoom.
That is so sad. I do sometimes wonder if it's right to counter witness to someone who is older , are they better left in ignorance ?
Jan
Yes I personally feel they would be better off left in ignorance. Like the saying;
IGNORANCE IS BLISS!
If I was that old Pleasssee DON'T WAKE ME UP!
Let me die in peace with some measure of hope!
so yesterday while i was doing some work for a customer, i noticed the wt mags on the sofa.
and i asked the elderly man if he was a jehovah witness?.
he said that he and his wife and all his children were raised in the religion, but only he and his wife attend the meetings or zoom.
So yesterday while I was doing some work for a customer, I noticed the WT mags on the sofa. And I asked the elderly man if he was a Jehovah Witness?
He said that he and his wife and all his children were raised in the religion, but only he and his wife attend the meetings or Zoom. All his children had left the religion.
He asked me if I was acquainted with the Watchtower religion and I told him I was raised in it but left at 18 because I personally didn't buy it. I explained to him that from an early age I started researching the religion and the bible and personally came to the conclusion it was all made up stories that had been turned into "Inspired Words from God"
I thought at this point he was going to kick me out of his house but to my surprise he said;
"You Have No Idea How Lucky You Are"
Then he went on to relate that just last year when the pandemic hit, and the door to door preaching stopped, and meetings stopped, both him and his wife started wondering why, if it's the last days, would Jehovah allow ANYTHING to stop the most important work EVER, ---the preaching work of saving lives.
It just didn't make sense! So they have been researching ever since and have come to find out 607 is a wrong date, The bible is not God's inspired Word, All the Child sex abuse in the organization that was covered up, the UN fiasco, and so on.
Now they both KNOW, IT'S NOT THE TRUTH!
So I asked him why the Magazines?
So he went on to explain to me that he was 87 years old and his wife was 82. Then he asked me,
"What would be the Point of both of us leaving?"
We were tricked, our life is almost over, whether we leave or stay doesn't really matter anymore. The only thing we have is some friends we made in our life that still believe the WT is the truth. And they help us many times get groceries when we can't. Drive us to the Doctor or hospital when we can't, etc.
Then he asked me this question;
If you were my age 87 years old and you spent all your life building up a network of friends in the WT organization and you had nothing else, and had a wife to think about in case you died first, and you knew you had less than 13 years of life---Would you leave the WT Organization??
I
thought about it for a few minutes and came to the realization that if
that happened to me-----------I would have been Fuc*** and there would
have been nothing I could have done at that point in my life. So I told
him I would just stay and keep my mouth shut.
When I was finally leaving, I told him----You're doing the right thing, buddy------I wish you and your wife the best.
He smiled and said; THANK YOU!----------HAVE A WONDERFUL LIFE!
To be honest, it kind of messed up my day. I felt sorry for that man and his wife. One of the worst things that can happen is finding out your were in a cult at the age of 87some thoughts for lurkers to free themselves from wt think: .
the "god of/is love" really applies tlc, tough loving care , to his beloved children.
letting them learn the really hard way.
"GOD IS LOVE"
I found this interesting post on reddit.
\https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/m4brtx/wtfto_put_to_the_test_those_dwelling_on_the_earth/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
a number of states are allowing people to not wear a mask.
some think this is disastrous!
what’s your view?.
CDC; WE'RE STILL LEARNING HOW VACCINES WILL AFFECT THE SPREAD OF COVID-19
LOL------THAT TELLS THE WHOLE STORY.
Trust the Government and its agencies!
why do some people who were trapped in the wt and wake up after much frustration and anger that they were lied to, still believe in the bible god who allowed them and their families to be deceived and trapped for years.
i have an acquaintance who is a lot older than me and for the past 30 years he has been out of the watchtower religion and is sola scriptura.
sola scriptura is a theological doctrine that posits the christian scriptures as the sole infallible source of authority for christian faith and practice.
wanton;
having proven to yourself that wt, and by extension scripture gives a wrong picture of reality, does not mean that there is ultimately no "J", an unfathomable creative entity.
Totally agree. I don't believe in "J" but I do believe there is some unfathomable creative entity that started the whole process.
Just don't ask me who that is, what his purpose is for us, or what his intentions were for all life on earth-----because I have no idea. But I'm smart enough to know that NO OTHER HUMAN KNOWS EITHER.
The TRUE answers will have to come from the "Creative entity"
Everything else is just spoof!
a number of states are allowing people to not wear a mask.
some think this is disastrous!
what’s your view?.
the point for me is not the effectiveness or lack thereof of masks but some on this thread are so dull mentally they simply cannot get away from the small and see a concept of a bigger picture.
Covid does not give a damn about your mask. But by all means, wear one. It doesn't affect me in the least... but im not wearing one and it clearly doesn't effect you either. Stop pretending it does.
a number of states are allowing people to not wear a mask.
some think this is disastrous!
what’s your view?.
Should they simply be allowed to die because they have other problems , like a disability?
BUT THEY DID DIE ANYWAY------Didn’t they!
They died because in most cases the disability was self-inflicted.
I’m just referring to my country USA.
The majority of 80 plus year old people that died had respiratory problems because they smoked their whole life. Others had diabetes as an underling problem because they kept eating donuts in the morning for breakfast and pie with coke in the evening for dinner. Even though all our health advisers continually warn these people that their diet is going to kill them if they don’t make changes. It's what kills many every year here in the USA.
Heart disease: 659,041
Cancer: 599,601
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 156,979
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 150,005
Diabetes: 87,647
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm
Also what about the strain on hospitals coping with so many people who are extremely ill needing expert nursing? The knock on effect of other patients not getting the care they need ,what about them ?
And this is what many see when their vision is Myopic.
In the USA, hospitals closed off all “Routine services” to people that needed life saving therapies like their Chemo Therapies. There were many young 28, 29, 30 plus young ladies with cancer who were refused their chemo treatment for their breast cancer. At first it was just supposed to be one month, then it turned into two months, then three, then indefinitely. Many- Many, young vibrant ladies died because they were refuse Chemo because the hospitals put the 80 -90 years old obese, diabetic smoker with Covid FIRST and rejected to help these young mothers with cancer.
As a result hundreds perhaps thousands of mothers died leaving children without mothers and husband without wives to help them raise the children.
And those 80 plus elderly with underline problems -----DIED ANYWAY.
And don’t get me started on the tons of children suicides because of the lock down for over a year.
The thousands of broken families because they lost their means of making a living because of the lock down, and as a result losing their home and becoming homeless.
Why has this happened?
Because the governing leaders wanted to lock down the entire country to help the 80, 90 plus years old people who smoked, drank, pigged out on food and became obese and ignore the young people with real problems like cancer, heart problems, depression.
A lot of my neighbors in my block are old people in their 80s,
90s. And most of them got Covid. They were sick a few days and that
was it. They didn’t need to go to the hospital for urgent care. But
these neighbors of mine take care of themselves. Most have never
smoked. All of them walk or run every day and include weight lifting
in their exercise routine. None of them are obese, or diabetic. All
of them know how to eat nutritional meals and avoid sweet sodas, candy,
processed food, etc. The 90 year old couples look like they are
in their fifties or sixties. Very little gray hair and all the men have a full head of hair.They are healthy as heck because they treasure life and take care of themselves.
If you think the lock down was instituted to HELP the elderly, think again, the governing leaders never intended to help the elderly.
The lock down had a different agenda.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/08/did-governor-cuomo-kill-11000-seniors-daniel-greenfield/
a number of states are allowing people to not wear a mask.
some think this is disastrous!
what’s your view?.
Either way we are saying good bye to this virus problem this year.
Rocketman, I sometimes wonder if there was REALLY A VIRUS PROBLEM.
Looking over the CDC's website on what caused the death of someone who died of Covid, in most cases it was the underling conditions that cause the death of 99 percent of the people that died of Covid.
The persons that are dying had hypertension, diabetes, heart disease, pulmonary disease, etc, or were just old and in bad health. Covid was just a stronger flu that all these people with health problems to begin with just needed that extra push to die and Covid provided that extra push.
But on the death Certificate, they put Covid as the cause of death when in reality it was the underling condition or just plain old age and bad health that was the real cause of death.
For healthy people Covid was not a problem. When I got Covid, I was sick for a day. All my friends my age were sick at most for two days. Covid was no a problem for us in any way. Covid was just flu that was exploited by the politicians.
I think our political leaders are using this to push their political agenda.
why do some people who were trapped in the wt and wake up after much frustration and anger that they were lied to, still believe in the bible god who allowed them and their families to be deceived and trapped for years.
i have an acquaintance who is a lot older than me and for the past 30 years he has been out of the watchtower religion and is sola scriptura.
sola scriptura is a theological doctrine that posits the christian scriptures as the sole infallible source of authority for christian faith and practice.
truth_b_known
I will point out one small thing - the Catholic Church rejects the concept of Sola Scriptura. The Church (Catholicism) does not believe the Bible should be taken literally in most aspects.
The Catholic Church openly accepts evolution. Much of the Old Testament is looked at as merely allegorical works that contain some wisdom. There was even a Pope that stated that Christianity is not the only way to worship God.
I did not know that
That being the case, if 1.4 billion Catholics don't view the Bible as the infallible source of authority for Christian faith and practice-------to whom do they turn for Godly instruction?????On the other side of the spectrum, ----Little do they know what's really going on