Posts by pistolpete

Wt was never about the money, but more in service or time dedicated by its members. Because the world was soon to end, what was the point in investing money in companies.

I agree Joe134cd

The leaders were taken just like the rank and file. They truly believed the promise of a New World Order.

I think they still do.

And if any of the GB ever woke up, they would go through the same ordeal that every one else that has woken up has gone through.

They would probably be posting on this site asking for help.

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JWs are bigger and more successful than the Mormon church

by joe134cd in

just saw the following you tube video.

it’s 3 hours long, but thoroughly interesting.

if you want to save yourself 3 hours, basically the active mormon church is about 3 million.

pistolpete

We can measure success in various ways.

I was kind of surprised that the video claims that the Mormon Church net-worth is hundreds of Billions of dollars ----approaching A TRILLION DOLLARS with a membership of only 3 million members.

They have 400 BILLION OF CASH GENERATING ASSETS LIKE STOCK, INVESTMENTS, ETC.

The speaker mentions that JUST DURING COVID----- the Church made 20 BILLION in returns from investment in Amazon, Tesla, Game Stock, etc.

He said that if all the members stopped giving monies to the Church, on investments ALONE at 7 percent return, the Mormon Church could function ETERNALLY.

That IS a lot of money for a shrinking church.

Compare that to the Watchtower who is selling Kingdom Halls every day, begging for monies, cutting full time servants from Bethel and sending them home, cutting publications, There is just no comparison who is more successful.

It’s like a business with 50 employees making 100 million a year in profits vs another business with ONE million employees making ONE million a year in profits.

I would consider that aspect in itself to be a much better indicator of Success and longevity of the Mormon church than any other thing the Watchtower has going at this time.

Membership as a means of measuring success would be secondary in a case like this.

I had no idea the Mormon Church Net Worth was this much.

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JWs are bigger and more successful than the Mormon church

by joe134cd in

just saw the following you tube video.

it’s 3 hours long, but thoroughly interesting.

if you want to save yourself 3 hours, basically the active mormon church is about 3 million.

pistolpete

wt has it opposite to bees. In the colony, the drones, workers, are the males, the queen fertile.

wt has a mostly female bumble bee "army" scouring the world for the harvest,
the heads, 8, mostly infertile, or non-reproducing males.

🤣🤣🤣

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Three and a half more years of Biden ...

by LoveUniHateExams in

how is the biden administration doing so far?.

biden reversed trump's plans for the border wall, and now america has thousands of illegal immigrants entering from mexico.. strangely, biden didn't reverse trump's plans for withdrawal from afghanistan, and instead pressed ahead with his own brand of lunacy, literally running away from afghanistan and abandoning its people to the taliban.. what is it with biden?

is he senile or just incompetent?

pistolpete

Now you know why they picked the thoroughly disliked Kamala as VP - she's "insurance" to put people off impeaching the brain-dead walking skin-sack of excrement.

Because Jesus Christ, what would that bitch do? Who doesn't think that however bad Biden is she would manage to pull off being worse?

That's exactly what I was going to say.

And if Kamala becomes President and does something stupid like Nuke the UK by mistake, and they impeach her-----Guess who's next in line to be President----------------Nancy Pelosi!

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Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

by pistolpete in

a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

pistolpete

Loesch is giving numbers that are hard to believe!........ he talks about meeting attendance, the ministry, (how its increased during Covid) and Memorial attendance

LOL----how did the ministry increase if for over a year world wide Governments around the world instituted LAW that prevented ANYONE----INCLUDING THE JWS TO GO DOOR TO DOOR IN THEIR MINISTRY?????

Only TRUE IDIOTS WOULD BELIEVE lunatic Loesch!

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Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

by pistolpete in

a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

pistolpete

This is what I am proposing regarding the articles (New Light) in the WT Study article and in the coming future WT study articles regarding the preaching work of door to door.

The Watchtower has revealed their cards on how they change major doctrine by the way they have handled Changes in main doctrinal matters in the past.

They start very slowly making small implications of change---until finally the COMPLETE CHANGE IN DOCTRINE reaches----Crescendo.

For example, this is how the Generation Doctrine changed over time and the indications that they take their sweet time in spilling the beans, so to speak. Usually it takes YEARS for complete change.

But the difference this time is the Pandemic that has forced them to stop the Door to Door preaching altogether----- PLUS all the Child sex abuse exposure on the internet and the New Media.

897 - A group of contemporary people

"Other uses of this Greek word (genea) prove that it is not used with the significance of race, but in reference to people living contemporaneously.... In other words, the signs mentioned will occur within a generation - epoch in the close of the age." Studies in the Scriptures Vol 4 pp.602,603

1927 - The anointed

"The irresistible conclusion therefore is that Jesus referred to the new creation [the anointed] when he said: This generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled. This then would be a strong indication that some members of the new creation will be on the earth at the time of Armageddon." Watchtower 1927 Feb 15 p.62

1951 - A fixed period of time from 1914 applied to worldly people

"The actual meaning of these words is, beyond question, that which takes a generation in the ordinary sense, as at Mark 8:12 and Acts 13:36, or for those who are living at the given period. So it was on this generation that the accumulated judgments were to fall. (Matt. 23:36) This therefore means that from 1914 a generation shall not pass till all is fulfilled, and amidst a great time of trouble." Watchtower 1951 Jul 1 p.404

1995 - A group of contemporary worldly people

"Jesus was not departing from his established use of the term this generation, which he consistently applied to the contemporary masses with their blind guides who together made up the Jewish nation. ... Jesus refers principally to contemporary people of a certain historical period, with their identifying characteristics." Watchtower 1995 Nov 1 pp.14,20

2008 - The anointed

"As a class, these anointed ones make up the modern-day "generation" of contemporaries that will not pass away "until all these things occur." This suggests that some who are Christ's anointed brothers will still be alive on earth when the foretold great tribulation begins." Watchtower 2008 Feb 15 p.24

2010 - A fixed period from 1914 applied to the anointed

"He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation." Watchtower 2010 April 15 p.10
THE OVERLAPPING GENERATION WAS BEING CREATED.

The September 2015 JW Broadcast on tv.jw.org explained that the generation included any anointed that met Frederick William Franz, as he was born and baptised prior to 1914.

No doubt at this moment they have no concrete plans to abruptly STOP THE DOOR TO DOOR IMMEDIATELY.

They are probably formulating a PLAN B, to eventually stop the door to door forever and replace it with other safer methods of recruiting members, like cart witnessing and letter writing.

There are to many “WOKE” PEOPLE who will question the Jws on apostate information and the Child abuse problem-----thus leading to a bigger exodus from the organization.

Eliminating Door to Door would prevent this.

Plus reducing the need for members to gather together in large groups will lessen the possibility of more pedophiles taking advantage of the JW environment to abuse more kids, leading to more lawsuits which is KILLING THE CORPORATION’S MONIES.

So I expect them to at least TRY to re-institute the Door to Door preaching after the Pandemic, to at least get some indication of where they are headed as far a keeping the organization a float.

But I believe the plans to discard the Door to Door work is in the WORKINGS.

Maybe they are already also planning on limiting the meetings, to a one day a week----SUNDAY TALK and Watchtower Study

They HAVE TO GO MAINSTREAM and STREAMING, if they want to survive.

THEY REALLY HAVE NO CHOICE!

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Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

by pistolpete in

a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

pistolpete

I've checked multiple translations and none of those say they are "large women"! The NWT (at Psalms 68:11) says "The women proclaiming the good news are a large army." It is there army that is said to be large, not the individual women.

It was a Jest DJW

See the above reply to----- Want2Leave

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Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

by pistolpete in

a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

pistolpete

Pistol pete, i know some sisters that would be upset for your rendition of the scriptures, it’s true though the large army has become large women!

I was wondering how long it would take for some sharp fellow to catch it"

You won the prize Want2Leave