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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

pistolpete

That's just one picture that has leaked.

Remember he said 3-4 years regular customer.

What are the chances that while he was in Thailand, all alone, nobody watching, some young child didn't escape his clutches.

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The "WE'RE ALL IMPERFECT" Theory.

by pistolpete in

a recurring theme in this loyd deal is the we're all imperfect-----------excuse!.

the "we're all imperfect" phrase, is an over used watchtower membership cliche, embedded in the minds of jws and anyone that leaves.

in the real world, there is no such thing as "we are all imperfect".

pistolpete

A recurring theme in this Loyd deal is the WE'RE ALL IMPERFECT-----------Excuse!

The "WE'RE ALL IMPERFECT" phrase, is an over used Watchtower membership cliche, embedded in the minds of JWs and anyone that leaves.

In the real world, there is no such thing as "WE ARE ALL IMPERFECT"

If you don't believe me, what do you think will happen if you get caught for breaking some law like raping some girl, murdering some man, and you get caught and come before a judge and jury?

What will happen if your defense is-------------"I COMMITTED MURDER BECAUSE I'M IMPERFECT"

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Jane Doh Does an Excellent Rebuttal to 6 Screens of WT

by Newly Enlightened in

i thought this needed it's own thread.

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https://youtu.be/d5hmwbiyjwc.

pistolpete

That plays right in Lloyd's hand,

I agree.

This lady is pulling all kinds of excuses for Loyd out of her ass, but is twisting it to sound that his behavior is somewhat human, but at a different level than average. (We are all narcissist theory)

The result is that it is giving Loyd's behavior a "Sort" of a pass, not directly but subtly, by blaming it on some type of "Human Imperfection" - and by detracting from the real issue, by venting her anger that some have blamed Loyd's behavior on him becoming a Atheist.

Then she goes into the topic of "Christians-have done the same" excuse.

No one needs a lengthy--philosophical explanation of why Loyd did what he did.

This elicits sympathy for what Loyd did, either inadvertently or purposefully, to the point that some of the posters are even insinuating that Loyd's wife is possibly a "Swinger"

All you have to do is ask yourself; "Would I want my Spouse to do what loyd did to his wife---to do it to me?" If not----WHY NOT?

Poster said;

B1 Crusade ... For Lloyd, maybe him and his wife are swingers although hiding it because of embarrassment. Maybe his wife was not putting out. Maybe Lloyd like variety. There are a lot of things we don’t know and are making judgements without knowing all the facts.

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Ukraine - Nato - US crisis

by mikeflood in

don't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....

pistolpete

Seems to me that the West/Biden is engaged in a poking of the Russian bear almost to provoke a reaction. Let's not forget that some years ago the West invaded Iraq on the basis of intelligence reports of Weapons of Mass Destruction,

Biden and his administration and the military complex want a war. Not just a regular war but a war with Nuclear weapons. This would allow those individuals who want to control the oil pipe line to take control. Also it would open many gates for making money for the elites.

Senator Wicker already said the the USA should use Nuclear weapons against Russia and many of both Democrats and Republicans have agreed that the USA should strike first with Nukes so as not to allow Russia to shoot their Nukes.

China has said if USA strikes Russia with Nukes, it will strike the USA with Nukes to avoid being nuked by America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq00bvvC24I

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Ukraine - Nato - US crisis

by mikeflood in

don't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....

pistolpete

Zelensky told the press that his country’s current problems came from the West rather than the East.

While America's Border is wide open to all sorts of criminals and terrorist, Both the democrats and Republicans want a war to protect Ukraine's border.

Why????????

My opinion is that money will go to both republican and democrats individuals who have a stake in making a war.

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Where do we go from here, the Lloyd-gate?

by raymond frantz in

the problem is where do we go from here?

lloyd is not going to go away , he has too much to loose(money) neither will his followers go as we have seen the last few days there was hardly a drop to his membership .so what's next?

we will be branded in the same colours and because of him we won't be taken seriously anymore.

pistolpete

The problem is where do we go from here?

I don't understand why this man was such a big deal in the first place. I was raised by a JW family. All my family and extended family were JWs. Many were or are elders, MS, Regular Pioneers, etc. in my family.

Before I was in my teens I knew the religion was all bullshit. I never needed an exjw activist to help me wake up. I woke up mainly by reading the bible and history books in school. It was easy to see that you can't fit some 30-40 million animals into an ark that is only 1.5 million cubic feet. And you can't call the God of the bible a being of love when he murders 70,000 of his own loyal worshipers just because some King took a census and pissed him off.

I knew by the time I was around 13-15 that this religion was not for me and I needed to plan my escape and that I would lose all my family for leaving the WT. I left as soon as I turned 18. I lived in homeless shelters for a while until I could save enough money to rent a shitty apartment. I worked and went to school for the next 10 years and am now set for life.

This Loyd had no impact in my life. In fact no exjw activist has had an influence in my life. The most I do is read the experiences of young jws that are pimo and trying to leave their home and live their own life because it resonates with me and my experience.

As far a loyd is concerned, he really should be irrelevant as far as helping people wake up and leave the Watchtower. People can wake up on their own if they really want to.

People that don't wake up is because they don't want to wake up. The Child sex abuse in the WT organization is ENOUGH PROOF, to help anyone wake up.

That being said, no matter what you do, you will never wake up a Jehovah Witness that doesn't want to wake up.

I feel that if you want to donate money to help your fellow humans, why not donate to a real cause like St. Jude Research Hospital for children with cancer. Or Shriners Hospitals of Kids with Birth defects.

These two organizations are so much more worthy because you are helping children THAT WANT TO LIVE A BIT LONGER OR LIVE WITHOUT THE BIRTH DEFECT THEY INHERITED.

This children practically beg for help and they won't fight you till the end.

It's better than helping a bunch of Jehovah's Witnesses that DON'T want to be helped to wake up and will FIGHT YOU ALL THE WAY to the end.

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Loyd has made a statement on Facebook

by pistolpete in

here is a copy of loyd's facebook latest comment.

https://m.facebook.com/lloydevanscedars/posts/346085697519910.

pistolpete

if this guy were ever accused of a crime,

Attorneys would see him from a distance. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/da/49/42da49f0ed4fefe31b38ffbc1e245323.jpg

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Loyd has made a statement on Facebook

by pistolpete in

here is a copy of loyd's facebook latest comment.

https://m.facebook.com/lloydevanscedars/posts/346085697519910.

pistolpete

but it seems like the exjw movement is long overdue for organized action instead of individual grandstanding.

That's actually a very good idea.

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Loyd has made a statement on Facebook

by pistolpete in

here is a copy of loyd's facebook latest comment.

https://m.facebook.com/lloydevanscedars/posts/346085697519910.

pistolpete

It seems like the exjw reddit community is beginning to split now that the Loyd video admitting but blaming others for his behavior. Some still defend him but many have said they will stop donating to him. Here is an example post;

Atschmid

You sound rather dim.
He is a hypocrite for going after the governing body, shaming them for buying expensive booze, using JW members' money for his own personal vices, when he himself is doing the same thing ----worse in fact!!!!---- spending money on underage hookers in thailand, having sex outside his marriage, not for the first time, for years! In fact he is the most extreme hypocrite I can think of in my experience.

oldrobotlady

I've commented before on how his personal sex life should be between him and his sex partners/wife.
Now that it's out and reading his facebook post linked above even though I still think it's no one's business I agree the trust is gone. By that I mean trusting exjw strangers with watchtower leaks of documents and leaked videos before they're aired on the borg site.
Not just Lloyd but Kim and Producer Bob. It taints the entire team. That entire website and team ought to just disband . If some rebrand and can still maintain some trust to the people that feed them the leaks that remains to be seen.
All in all it's a huge blow to the exjw activism community. People that would have helped with info/leaks now justifiably will hesitate and maybe not even divulge what they have.
The damage couldn't be more even if watchtower paid them all to tank their activism efforts. Behind all of that damage are millions of trapped jws who may not find help as easily as they could have previously.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/sjn2l1/megathread_lloyd_evans_part_deux/

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Loyd has made a statement on Facebook

by pistolpete in

here is a copy of loyd's facebook latest comment.

https://m.facebook.com/lloydevanscedars/posts/346085697519910.

pistolpete

Here is a copy of Loyd's facebook latest comment

https://m.facebook.com/lloydevanscedars/posts/346085697519910