Everyone I know in my area, knew Trump would lose the election. Not because the majority of US citizens would vote against him---but because we knew the election would be rigged. It was obvious from the beginning that the majority of politicians and the far left didn't like Trump. They spent hundreds of millions of taxpayer's monies on the Russian Collusion, the FBI tried to get him out, the House tried to impeach him, the media smeared him every day, Hollywood hated him, High tech like social media hated him------I'm actually surprise he lasted 4 years. Even Biden admitted that the biggest organized fraud ever in election history would make sure he was President. That's why he stayed in the basement and didn't worry about it, he knew he was going to be elected. And the Department of justice did nothing.
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Politics and Hope
by lriddle80 inso there are a lot of atheists on here.
my question: where does your hope come from?
that the right people will be put in political positions and will eventually form a utopian society that will meet all needs and we will have equality for all?.
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I have a few atheists in my family that are heavily into politics and one of them is a socialist and wondered if the best she could look forward to is barely being able to fight off the Nazis and the other one talks almost daily about wanting to die because of the state of the world and where we are with accepting everyone as equal.
This is the problem when someone takes a stand of certainty on topics that one can’t possibly be certain of.
Just to let you know, I am neither Atheist nor a Theist nor an Agnostic.
I read a quote by Voltaire when I was about 17 years old that made a lot of sense.
“Uncertainty Is an Uncomfortable Position. But Certainty Is an Absurd One.”
We notice that there were basically three lines of thought at the time. (Atheist, Agnostic and Theist) of which I subscribe to none.
Being raised in a JW family, I already didn’t believe in talking snakes, magical fruit, and invisible beings that materialized just to terrorize beautiful women.
As far as Atheism is concern, I personally felt and still do, that “we know to little to commit to a position of strict Atheism, --where we act as though we got it all figured out.” And at the same time, “we know to much to commit to a particular religion.”
While the unknown may cause us discomfort, if we’re so certain about something, that we never question anything,---- we are bound to run into problems sooner or later. That’s the reason many Jehovah Witnesses lose it when they find out they were in a religious cult, in a matter of speaking.
On the other hand, the benefits of uncertainty is that it keeps you sharp because you are always asking questions. And by asking questions, it allows for the sorts of surprises that can make life interesting. “Knowing the outcome or answer—or believing you do—might seem nice, but it's ultimately not in your best interest.
You can never be sure of anything. (Just talk to a former Jehovah Witness who woke up after 50 Years) That may seem frightening, but it can actually be a great source of excitement and discovery.”
I consider myself a Possibilian which allows me to have multiple possibilities of where we came from what our purpose is and where are we headed. And at the same time this stand allows me to accept new narratives as they are revealed by Science or other means. This trend started a little over 10 years ago. It came about as a result of getting tired of all the debates between the two schools of thought,---atheist and theist.
And for us that have adopted this view, we never feel a need to commit suicide because life is amazing and there is so much to learn.
Here is a better explanation.
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How will the rest of the World be affected if America is run by far-left Socialist?
by pistolpete inamerica was a power not to be reckoned with.
but lately it seems to be the laughing stock of the world.
what other countries are seeing on the news is riots, calls to de-fund the police, breakdown of society, and elections being over taken with fraud.
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I don't think he is as far left as AOC. And as of now, there seems to be some infighting between the far left democrats and the moderate democrats.
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How will the rest of the World be affected if America is run by far-left Socialist?
by pistolpete inamerica was a power not to be reckoned with.
but lately it seems to be the laughing stock of the world.
what other countries are seeing on the news is riots, calls to de-fund the police, breakdown of society, and elections being over taken with fraud.
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Thanks for that video. Considering all the other nations and their own personal agenda, I sometimes wonder how we've made it this far without another world war. I hope it stays like this until after I'm long gone. Don't want to see a world war----ever------except on fictional tv😁
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Politics and Hope
by lriddle80 inso there are a lot of atheists on here.
my question: where does your hope come from?
that the right people will be put in political positions and will eventually form a utopian society that will meet all needs and we will have equality for all?.
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So, it WAS all for nothing after all!
Not at all. Life is a gift to be treasured. If I live only until I hit forty, was it for nothing at all? Of course not. I enjoyed sunsets, the ocean, endless meals, pets, my work is enjoyable, I fell in love with a wonderful lady, children, wonderful parents, and I will attest-----it was not for nothing.
I’m not sure if you were a jw, but the ones I know were fed an unrealistic promise of living forever in a paradise earth petting pandas. That unrealistic promise can make life today meaningless. That’s why many jws stop living for today and give up everything, because they have been promised everlasting life by a group of men that most have never personally met. And that's why when many find out they didn't have the truth, they have a hard time coping with life today.
I think our lives are intricately woven together playing out an epic story of a redeeming Savior saving people who are worthless for an ultimate crescendo of God, man, and creation becoming one.
I have no problem with people believing whatever they want to believe to make the inevitable a lot less painful.
For me I don’t see why an omnipotent, omniscient, and benevolent God wasn’t able to create a planet that didn’t have to be conquered, and a race of humans that didn’t need salvation.
If I was that God, and created children, I wouldn’t put them through all that suffering----unless I was malevolent, and enjoyed seeing contests like the gladiatorial fights of Rome.
And I wouldn’t put them on a planet that was deliberately designed with some animals destine to be prey and others designed to be predators.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaM9Ct3g1Fw&feature=youtu.be&t=25
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How will the rest of the World be affected if America is run by far-left Socialist?
by pistolpete inamerica was a power not to be reckoned with.
but lately it seems to be the laughing stock of the world.
what other countries are seeing on the news is riots, calls to de-fund the police, breakdown of society, and elections being over taken with fraud.
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America was a power not to be reckoned with. But lately it seems to be the laughing stock of the world. What other Countries are seeing on the news is Riots, calls to de-fund the police, breakdown of society, and elections being over taken with fraud.
World powers fall. Is it time for the USA to fall????
This video is making the rounds. This woman is from Yugoslavia and has been seeing with interest what has been happening in America, because it is exactly what happened in Yugoslavia. She is warning Americans that America is changing right before our eyes -----and we can't see it..
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My Prediction: Trump Wins Big
by minimus ina month ago it might have been questionable.
not now.
after bader’s death and biden’s inability, this shouldn’t be close.
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So it looks like the Covid Vaccine is here. If true, no doubt Biden will say he as "President Elect" was responsible for the vaccine finally arriving.
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Politics and Hope
by lriddle80 inso there are a lot of atheists on here.
my question: where does your hope come from?
that the right people will be put in political positions and will eventually form a utopian society that will meet all needs and we will have equality for all?.
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I was thinking about all of advances in technology and things like stoves and air conditioning. But now we have an advanced, maybe irreversible climate problem most likely caused by these advances, so I don't know it was such a good idea to become so advanced.
There are several theories out there that hypothesize that the more advance a species gets, the closer it gets to the “Filters” that will prevent it from advancing to much.
One of these “Filters” is that civilizations Destroy themselves when they reach a certain point. For example once they learn how to build Nuclear Weapons, it only a matter of a few hundreds years before someone decides it is time to end it all and thus pave the way for a new species to climb the ladder to the top.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWphqA1Slrw
Killer epidemics could wipe out the entire human species before a solution is developed, paving the way for a new species to climb the ladder.
Overpopulation could force world leaders and politicians to come up with a plan to cull the herd. Your average citizen would have no idea what is happening.
There is actually some speculation that the Covid virus was deliberately created to cull the overpopulation problem and get rid of the old and sickly people, since they are more of a drain on finite resources instead of adding ideas, and labor to earth’s diminishing resources.
Are we at that point in the scale of approaching one of those filters?
You tell me. From a high of 70,300 active weapons in 1986, as of 2019 there are approximately 3,750 active nuclear warheads and 13,890 total nuclear warheads in the world. Many of the decommissioned weapons were simply stored or partially dismantled, not destroyed ---------meaning that humans still have access to them.
Considering how some countries armed with Nukes, hate each other to the max, like India and Pakistan, it wouldn’t take long for ONE OF THEM TO START SOMETHING and then the whole world join in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-iNWaBZ3-w
Another great “Filter” would be the same thing that happened to Dinosaurs,--a giant meteor or a possible storm of Asteroids struck the planet earth and wiped them all out, leaving room for a new species to rise to the top of the chain,----Homo Sapiens.
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Collapse of JW Org - Possibly on the Horizon?
by JWTom inthis topics get a great deal of discussion here.
what i find interesting is even some of my pimi family is embracing the reality that all is not well with jw.org and that many current jws are just going through the motions due to not having a good way out of the org.
wondering what could realistically lead to the collapse of jw.org in the not distant future?
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Collapse of the JW Org - Possibly on the Horizon?
The Watchtower makes up .001 of the population. (Not even close to the number 1) And to be honest, it's probably less than that because I don't believe there are 8 million full fledged believers - JWs world wide.
With that in mind, if the Watchtower collapsed today, I doubt anyone would even notice besides the members and some exjws.
I know 1.4 BILLION people in China wouldn't give a hoot
I know 1.3 BILLION people in India wouldn't blink an eye.
Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria, Brazil, Bangladesh, and Russia wouldn't even bat an eye
If you had two stories on the news all over the internet---Elections or Watchtower collapse, which do you thing people would click on!!
Earth population wise------nobody really cares!
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Politics and Hope
by lriddle80 inso there are a lot of atheists on here.
my question: where does your hope come from?
that the right people will be put in political positions and will eventually form a utopian society that will meet all needs and we will have equality for all?.
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My question: where does your hope come from
Definition
Hope; a FEELING of expectation and DESIRE for a certain thing to happen.
When I was a little kid I use to Hope=DESIRE to one day fly like superman. But as I grew up I realized that all HOPE is --------is just a feeling and nothing more. It's not something tangible that actually comes true just because you wish it or desire it.
In my short little life, considering I'm still young, I've seen real good people hope in God that their cancer would go away. (They died) I've seen good parents hope in God, that their 5 year old daughter is found before it's to late. (She never came home) How many of the 350,000 people that died in the December 26, 2004 tsunami do you think were Hoping in God considering many has just celebrated the birth of Christ the day prior?
Because we know that won't happen because people are always going to be divided and unsatisfied.
Now you are predicting a future event and acting like a prophet. That's how religion starts. No Human can predict how humanity will turn out thousands of years from now.