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  2020-Articles Of Association--Bylaws--Notice Of Special Meeting! (as of 2020-11-25)

  by Atlantis in

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  2020--articles of association and bylaws--3 pages.. .

  2020--notice of special meeting in december--8 pages.

  if you are a jw read carefully before you sign.. .

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  John Redwood

  When you examine page 4, for example, you will see item eleven where the reference is made to the contingency plan in the event Watchtower New York were "not in existence".

  That's actually just language that is found in just about every legal document like a "Will"

  For example, if a Will designates that certain assets should go to John Doe----"But" -- If John Doe "Is Decease" (or another way of saying, "Not In Existence" ----Then assets should go to Jennifer Doe.

  As I mention before, The Watchtower just Can't go out of business.

  If a charitable nonprofit winds down operations, the board of directors must distribute all of the nonprofit’s assets to another 501(c)(3) after all debts have been settled.

  I doubt very much that the WT is ready to distribute all of its Billions in assets to another non-profit organization. They will always adapt and restructure TO STAY IN BUSINESS. None of the GB can run away with the monies. There are strict laws in the United States that govern non profit organization. (They are just Restructuring as they have always done since the beginning. This might include selling tons of KHs)
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  A Salute to Petra/Atlantis

  by Slidin Fast in

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  whilst i have never quite understood whether petra and atlantis are one or multiple entities i recognise the value of their work and web of contacts.

  i think it is fair to say that no-one has consistently contributed more solid gold intelligence to this site.

  no one has reliably passed on more bomb shells and solid news as well as day to day minutiae.

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  Diogenesister

  That's very interesting , though somewhat depressing!!

  ....kinda sounds like they could morph into another version of themselves, in order to donate to themselves, and so on ad infinitum!!

  Yes not the best of news, but they have actually been morphing from one version to another since Charles T. Russell started the whole thing. From bible Students, to Jehovah's Witnesses, to Christian Congregation, and so on. They are just following the lead of the Catholic Church who went from masters of inquisitions to love baby Jesus.
  

  The WT will be around for while. Two billion plus in assets and a continual flow of donations can accommodate Governing body and helpers (lawyers) to navigate the waters of law and politics for quite a long time----more than likely into the next century.

  They can eventually get rid of those that are draining the assets, like circuit overseers, full time worker at their headquarters,missionaries, and so on. Just kick them out and tell them-----Jehovah will take care of you.
  

  But eventually they will morph into something else under a different name other than Watchtower. If it was me running the company, I would eventually get rid of the Name Watchtower legally. I would distance the New Restructured company from all negative failed prophesies, scandals, and crazy doctrines, and start over.

  I would just wait for the right Time, the right Moment, and evaluate present culture to come up with another religious idea to lure the gullible into the New Organization of the ''True God" and start collecting monies again.

  Why do you think the Catholic Church has made it for hundreds and hundreds of years even though history paints it as deplorable, murderous, and so much child sexual abuse that they make cartoons to depict how bad the child abuse actually is.-------IT'S THE MONIES THAT GIVES THEM POWER. THAT'S THE KEY.
  
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  Tsunamis and Volcanos: why?

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  volcano eruptions and tsunamis kill at large scale and very often, without warning.

  how do believers explain these away?

  jehovah's witnesses say that humans die and suffer due to the original sin, but what do volcano's and tsunamis have to do with it?

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  in this country we sometimes get rough seas and warning are put out not to go near the sea. So what happens? Yes you still find an audience and often someone has gone surfing too.

  LOL, yea that's what you call "A Human"

  I remember seeing the movie War of the Worlds with Tom Cruise. The scene when the aliens were coming out of the ground. The street was breaking up into a big hole and what do the people do-----They gather around the HOLE.

  I couldn't stop laughing, until finally the usher came and escorted me out of the theater.
  

  https://youtu.be/DtM3UTktVWI
  
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  A Salute to Petra/Atlantis

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whilst i have never quite understood whether petra and atlantis are one or multiple entities i recognise the value of their work and web of contacts.

  i think it is fair to say that no-one has consistently contributed more solid gold intelligence to this site.

  no one has reliably passed on more bomb shells and solid news as well as day to day minutiae.

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  John Redwood

  Mike and Kim decided to make a video in which they launched very speculative and baseless theories about a number of things- including floating the idea that Watchtower New York could be preparing to go out of business.

  Mike and Kim don't seem to know how non-profit religious corporations work in the United States. The Watchtower just Can't go out of business. A few hours or research can show how it works.

  https://www.501c3.org/who-really-owns-a-nonprofit/

  Quote from article

  If a charitable nonprofit winds down operations, the board of directors must distribute all of the nonprofit’s assets to another 501(c)(3) after all debts have been settled.

  I don't believe the WT is ready to distribute all of its assets to another non-profit organization. They will always adapt and restructure TO STAY IN BUSINESS. None of the GB can run away with the monies. There are strict laws that govern non profit organization. (Restructuring might include selling tons of KHs)
  
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  Tsunamis and Volcanos: why?

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  volcano eruptions and tsunamis kill at large scale and very often, without warning.

  how do believers explain these away?

  jehovah's witnesses say that humans die and suffer due to the original sin, but what do volcano's and tsunamis have to do with it?

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  Not just Jehovah's Witnesses but most Christians are under the assumption that the World was made for us. But all evidence in the past and today shows that the world was made for those that adapt to the conditions of this planet. Literally millions animals and beings related to Homo Sapiens have become extinct. They were not able to adapt. We as Homo Sapiens were fortunate to be able to adapt. Volcanos and Tsunamis are just part of the inherent way that our planet is. The earth was never intended to be a paradise for people to live forever
  

  https://youtu.be/-IGsn3Ozfxs

  https://youtu.be/c3-q9qpfNo4

  https://youtu.be/cIANk7zQ05w
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  Do you think “Eventually” the Whole World will become Socialist?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when i say; “socialist” i don’t mean everyone is equal.

  instead i am referring to “leaders” being rich and powerful, whereas the ordinary citizen being poor, and powerless.. i was surprise that the majority of the world is run by socialist government.

  the last few countries that are not socialist are the united states and parts of europe.

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  Here is something that Democrats will do for all the people with College debt if they win the Senate. If so, who do you think they will vote for next coming election. This is Socialism lure to capture votes.
  

  https://youtu.be/NjzJ3qsgH5o
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  Do you think “Eventually” the Whole World will become Socialist?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when i say; “socialist” i don’t mean everyone is equal.

  instead i am referring to “leaders” being rich and powerful, whereas the ordinary citizen being poor, and powerless.. i was surprise that the majority of the world is run by socialist government.

  the last few countries that are not socialist are the united states and parts of europe.

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  mickbobcat

  socialism is an arbitrary word. The US and many countries are capitalist with a social safety net.

  I agree, like USA has Social Security and Medicare as a safety net. But the definition is being redefined by Democrat progressives like AOC and the young people coming out of College. Socialist as they define it is Government takes over "EVERYTHING" not just S.S. and other safety nets. It's a sly way of a few in power take command over everything----What kind of jobs you can do, no individual patents, all new inventions belong to the government, what food is produce, all property is own by the government, what health care you need decided by government, and etc.

  Communism and socialism are tried again and again and failed again and again.

  I agree, but it doesn't stop idiots from trying it again with a few tweaks here and there, which is what is happening now.

  Somehow, people like this got into a position of power.

  https://www.bet.com/news/national/2019/07/18/aoc-opponent/_jcr_content/image.large2x1image.dimg/__1563488567538__1563488549445/071819-national-aoc-opponent.jpg
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  Do you think “Eventually” the Whole World will become Socialist?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when i say; “socialist” i don’t mean everyone is equal.

  instead i am referring to “leaders” being rich and powerful, whereas the ordinary citizen being poor, and powerless.. i was surprise that the majority of the world is run by socialist government.

  the last few countries that are not socialist are the united states and parts of europe.

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  Nikolaus
  

  The same would be misleading about self-proclaimed democratic states like "Democratic Republik of Korea" and "German Democratic Republic".

  There are many dictorship that call themselves "democratic" or "socialist" because it sounds good. Do not look at lables but at actions.

  That's a good point and so very true. PROCLAIMED Democratic states is not the same as REAL Democratic states.
  
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  Do you think “Eventually” the Whole World will become Socialist?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when i say; “socialist” i don’t mean everyone is equal.

  instead i am referring to “leaders” being rich and powerful, whereas the ordinary citizen being poor, and powerless.. i was surprise that the majority of the world is run by socialist government.

  the last few countries that are not socialist are the united states and parts of europe.

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  pistolpete

  When I say; “Socialist” I don’t mean everyone is equal. Instead I am referring to “Leaders” being Rich and Powerful, whereas the ordinary citizen being Poor, and Powerless.

  I was surprise that the majority of the World is run by Socialist Government. The last few Countries that are not Socialist are the United States and parts of Europe. See details on link below.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states#Current_socialist_states

  Many Political leaders are using the Covid Pandemic as an excuse to meet early next year to form a Globalist Power Structure which will consists of Billionaires around the world, Corporations, and Political leaders, including those from Socialist Countries like China----AND RESET THE WORLD ECONOMY AND LAW STRUCTURE. (One set of Laws for all Countries)

  This will include LAWS that will be binding on every citizen in every Country. Buying and selling products will be regulated by big Corporations. The laws will include punishment for any dissent, restraint or negative criticism against the Global Administration.

  Trump had separated the United States from such a World Coalition. Trump was Nationalistic and wanted the United States to stay away from any Socialist Type Ideology. There is much talk that there were many Globalist who funded many left wing groups to interfere in the USA election. And of course Democrats label such talk as conspiracy and lies. If you had the opportunity to watch such videos, you will notice that those videos looks so familiar to the videos the Watchtower puts out against exjws and calls them liars and apostates. Biden has already said he plans to join the Global Forum.

  Here is Justin Trudeau talking about the opportunity to Reset the Global situation

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2fp0Jeyjvw

  Here Beck mentions this situation way back in July

  https://youtu.be/SlU2Z6AUkg0

  And here we are in November

  https://youtu.be/IS6QfFPZCkU
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  If you leave the WT and don’t get vaccinated, you will still have the virus and keep getting sick

  by pistolpete in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so the past couple of years, i’ve read several stories about jws who left the organization at an early age because they knew something wasn’t right------but they never bothered to research the religion.

  there was this feeling that the watchtower was not god’s only channel.

  so they left at an early age.

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  LongHairGal

  Also, the attitude is there that single women are temptresses looking to steal husbands!

  I'm not sure why, but I've noticed this is the case in "most" Christian religions. It probably has to do with the way women are portrayed in the Bible. You know David already had wives but Bathsheba stole him from them, in a matter of speaking. Or the way the bible describes prostitutes like in Revelation.Or Eve who tempted Adam.

  Who knows but this is reality.

  Diogenesister

  That very thing could have happened to my kids if it weren't for the ARC, Ray Franz and this site.

  I read a lot of sad stories of exjw parents who left the WT but never did enough research to learn how ALL the Teachings of WT are dangerous, but many in a very subtly way. One couple decided to keep some of the teachings and teach them to the kids. When the kids grew up and JWs knocked on their door, they were ripe for being harvested into the religion. In time the elders and others warn them that the parents left Jehovah and should be treated like apostates. The children called the parents and told them they would not associate or talk to them until they came back to Jehovah's Organization. Decades went by very quickly with no contact with their children or grandchildren. In the meantime the father died.
  

  The parent posting the experience was in her 80s and on her death bed and wanted to see her children and grandchildren, but the children refused to visit her in her last days. Don't know what happen to that lady but she never posted again.
  

  It's important for exjws to research extensively and get rid of all indoctrination.