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  Who owns the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society

  by pistolpete in

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  actually no one does.. i know this is a concept that can be hard for some to grasp, considering all other forms of organizations like sole proprietorship, general partnership, an llc, or a for profit corporation.

  these organizations are created legally for the simple purpose of making a profit.. but unlike a for profit corporation,---- a nonprofit corporation is formed to carry out-.

  whether that be religious, educational, charitable, scientific or other qualifying purpose.

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  if there were no shareholders, how would a corporation President/CEO become appointed?

  Here is some information

  
  

  https://www.huffpost.com/entry/can-a-nonprofit-organizat_b_5562168

  
  

  
  
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  Are there more Bethel layoffs in the immediate future?

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just saw a post on reddit: ‘wt are prepping the r&f for changes in the march/april meeting workbook’.. in the post the person noted what they read (for march 8) and it mentioned bethel adjustments and reference was made to 2015 when bethelites were let go.. if this happens (yet again) another bunch of people are being sent home to fend for themselves in the big bad world at an advanced age with little to no preparation.

  even though this doesn’t surprise me, it could not come at a worse time with a global pandemic and massive job loss everywhere..congregations are already in turmoil because of so many who reached retirement age totally unprepared because they were told armageddon would be here before they reached that age.

  this is in addition to all the other ‘needy’ and troubled types in the congregations looking for as$istance.. i hope any bethelites there have a plan and some people they can contact.

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  But, as a single woman

  Is it my imagination or does the religion, (Governing body, elders, COs, etc) do all they can to take advantage of single women. It seems like they just push the women to not get married, if you do get married, only marry a Jehovah witness, if you do marry a jehovah witness, only marry a ministerial servant or elder, if you do marry a jehovah witness ministerial servant then don't have children, and don't get a full time jobs, ---------just full time pioneer.

  That might be one of the worst religions to join if you are a single woman.
  
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  Are there more Bethel layoffs in the immediate future?

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just saw a post on reddit: ‘wt are prepping the r&f for changes in the march/april meeting workbook’.. in the post the person noted what they read (for march 8) and it mentioned bethel adjustments and reference was made to 2015 when bethelites were let go.. if this happens (yet again) another bunch of people are being sent home to fend for themselves in the big bad world at an advanced age with little to no preparation.

  even though this doesn’t surprise me, it could not come at a worse time with a global pandemic and massive job loss everywhere..congregations are already in turmoil because of so many who reached retirement age totally unprepared because they were told armageddon would be here before they reached that age.

  this is in addition to all the other ‘needy’ and troubled types in the congregations looking for as$istance.. i hope any bethelites there have a plan and some people they can contact.

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  I met one of those bethelites who was sent home. He was in his early 50s and told me that he started serving at bethel at age 19. He married at 20 and his wife has been there also since then. He was transferring from brother to brother because he couldn't find a job and didn't have enough money to pay the rent.

  His wife was very disillusioned with the way her life turned out. She was telling one of my jw friends, a sister, that all her jw friends had married "Out of the truth" and most of them brought their husbands "into the truth" and lived in nice houses with nice cars and had a retirement in place. And to add insult to injury, they all had kids and grand-kids. Then she asked my jw friend, "Why didn't Jehovah bless me? I did everything right" But those that disobeyed, He blessed.
  
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  Who owns the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  actually no one does.. i know this is a concept that can be hard for some to grasp, considering all other forms of organizations like sole proprietorship, general partnership, an llc, or a for profit corporation.

  these organizations are created legally for the simple purpose of making a profit.. but unlike a for profit corporation,---- a nonprofit corporation is formed to carry out-.

  whether that be religious, educational, charitable, scientific or other qualifying purpose.

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  When I first starting reading WTS literature in the late 1960s, I can recall notices being issued in the Watchtower, ...In a non-profit organisation, where would such shareholders fit into the scheme of things, then?

  Here is some information.
  

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  When Nonprofits Issue Stock

  There are a few states that let nonprofits sell shares of stock that entitle the owner to some management control of the nonprofit, but unlike corporate stock, these shares don't include dividend rights or the ability to share in profits. States that allow nonprofits to issue stocks include Kansas, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, where a nonprofit corporation can be organized on a "stock share basis." However, according to legal blog Inside Counsel, even where states allow nonprofits to issue stock, the option is rarely used. Most often, nonprofits organize with stock as a way to efficiently set up control of the corporation, usually among a group of founding members.

  Here is the article

  https://smallbusiness.chron.com/can-non-profit-corporations-issue-stock-65592.html
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  Are there more Bethel layoffs in the immediate future?

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just saw a post on reddit: ‘wt are prepping the r&f for changes in the march/april meeting workbook’.. in the post the person noted what they read (for march 8) and it mentioned bethel adjustments and reference was made to 2015 when bethelites were let go.. if this happens (yet again) another bunch of people are being sent home to fend for themselves in the big bad world at an advanced age with little to no preparation.

  even though this doesn’t surprise me, it could not come at a worse time with a global pandemic and massive job loss everywhere..congregations are already in turmoil because of so many who reached retirement age totally unprepared because they were told armageddon would be here before they reached that age.

  this is in addition to all the other ‘needy’ and troubled types in the congregations looking for as$istance.. i hope any bethelites there have a plan and some people they can contact.

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  The virus was not expected by the Governing Body. It caught them off guard. The end was supposed to be here by now

  LHG, I bet you are happy you never fell for the "Full Time Service" admonishment!!!!!.
  
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  Who owns the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  actually no one does.. i know this is a concept that can be hard for some to grasp, considering all other forms of organizations like sole proprietorship, general partnership, an llc, or a for profit corporation.

  these organizations are created legally for the simple purpose of making a profit.. but unlike a for profit corporation,---- a nonprofit corporation is formed to carry out-.

  whether that be religious, educational, charitable, scientific or other qualifying purpose.

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  Actually no one does.

  I know this is a concept that can be hard for some to grasp, considering all other forms of organizations like Sole proprietorship, General partnership, an LLC, or a For Profit Corporation. These organizations are created legally for the simple purpose of MAKING A PROFIT.

  But unlike a for profit corporation,---- A nonprofit corporation is formed to carry out-

  “A non-commercial purpose”

  Whether that be religious, educational, charitable, scientific or other qualifying purpose.

  I am assuming there is a couple of lawyers here, perhaps some accountants, and I have no idea if the laws have changed the past few years regarding nonprofit organization, so you are free to add “New Light” to what I learned a few years ago in College.

  First thing is first with a nonprofit organization, which is that Governance responsibility is vested in the board of directors or trustees. I’m not sure who the trustees are for the Watchtower, but I am assuming it is the Governing body. But the trustees are accountable to state and federal authorities to ensure the organization operates in a legally compliant manner and for the purposes outlined at formation-which is NON PROFIT. This is why the Governing Body has sent many jws to law school, so they can have some in house legal minds to maneuver all the legal loop holes to keep the nonprofit organization going. But the trustees still have the power to make the decisions. This may explain why some of the decisions that come out from time to time just seem totally crazy, because it’s eight men with a high school diploma making these crazy decisions.

  Then you have the particular law that applies to nonprofit organizations. This law stipulates that in a nonprofit organization, everyone involved in the nonprofit organization is prohibited from acting in a manner that results in private inurement (profit to individuals.) What this means is that any insider like a nonprofit employee that holds board seats or that works for the nonprofit in any capacity cannot abuse their power that will result in personal gain from NON-PROFIT ASSETS. The most common cases of abuse is excess compensation such as salary deemed above what the IRS considers reasonable for the job being done. Using credit for personal expenses is another abuse, and the list goes on. All insider crime committed in nonprofit organizations is defined as the “Inurement- or -profit to individuals” But this point is important to remember,-Not all activities defined as “Inurement are criminal. The courts decide which ones are and which ones are not. A good lawyer helps.

  Also, a nonprofit organization like the Watchtower cannot be sold or liquidated with assets going to trustees or members. Again, without an ownership mechanism, it simply isn’t possible. Remember, No One Owns the Watchtower. What it can do is start winding up operations and do the unthinkable, which is distribute all its assets to “another non-profit organization”

  You see the law stipulates that if a charitable nonprofit winds down operations, which many think this is what the Watchtower is doing because of the lawsuits and selling of Kingdom Halls, then they only have one alternative, which is that the board of directors must distribute all of the nonprofit’s assets to another 501(c)(3) after all debts have been settled. If I am correct, the Watchtower is a 501(c)(3) so the Governing Body cannot steal millions and hide in the Cayman islands.

  But I’m assuming that rather than dissolve the WT corporation and transfer all the asset to another nonprofit, the Governing Body would prefer to run a small nonprofit religious organization with few or no buildings, with perhaps just a couple of million faithful believers, or even a few hundred thousand, who continue to donate and keep their room and board secure.

  Right now the trustees which may be the Governing Body or someone else are doing all they can to keep as many believers in the organization who donate faithfully week after week. Also on their agenda is to indoctrinate young ones so they can to take over the donation arrangement after the old ones die, and to continue to fight the child abuse lawsuits and pay as little as possible. And one important point, to keep apostates from revealing the truth about the Watchtower Organization. That truth being that it is not God’s only channel on earth, but just a non-profit organization running on the fumes of gullible and ignorant people’s imaginary future of living forever in a paradise earth.

  So the trustees are the ones running the show, making crazy decisions, and the lawyers are helping them navigate the turbulent waters of the law as they come under more scrutiny from more and more people.
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  Is it possible for any Country to have “Reasonable” Gun Laws? What would they be?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so the new biden/harris gun policies are starting to appear.

  it’s not clear yet, what they will be.. some suggestions; confiscate all guns.------buyback programs in each state.. there is much talk on social media that if this happens, the pandemic, + all the riots, + all the damaged property, + all the annual murders in america, - put together-will be like a sunday afternoon picnic, compared to all the deaths and property damage that will result because of “civil uprising” by millions of 2nd amendments advocates and just plain gun lovers.

  americans love guns!.

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  Better than we would have if you were in charge of it.

  What you consider better, most people consider an utter failure. About 50 children have gone missing in the time it took me to write this.---------I don't consider that BETTER.
  

  An estimated 8 million children are said to go missing each year, worldwide.

  
  
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  Is it possible for any Country to have “Reasonable” Gun Laws? What would they be?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so the new biden/harris gun policies are starting to appear.

  it’s not clear yet, what they will be.. some suggestions; confiscate all guns.------buyback programs in each state.. there is much talk on social media that if this happens, the pandemic, + all the riots, + all the damaged property, + all the annual murders in america, - put together-will be like a sunday afternoon picnic, compared to all the deaths and property damage that will result because of “civil uprising” by millions of 2nd amendments advocates and just plain gun lovers.

  americans love guns!.

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  pistolpete...You do realize that the website you linked is advocating DOING something about the problem of missing children.

  Yes and how are we doing so far.........................
  
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  Nurses are unwilling to take the COVID-19 Vaccine

  by adjusted knowledge in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i work at two separate hospitals and most of the rns i work with have stated they won't take the vaccine.

  i've read a report that 1/3 of rns will refuse the vaccine.

  for those in other countries do you see this being an issue or is it more an american phenomenon?.

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  when we have had experts tell us masks don’t work only to tell us later that we must wear a mask, and publish studies in top medical journals, only to be withdrawn because the methodology was faulty.

  It's called NEW LIGHT!-----You know what they say; "The light gets brighter as the day draws near"
  

  One thing this election has taught me is that you can't trust any of the experts or the leaders of the world. They are no different than the Bible "experts" Governing Body and their minions (elders).The leaders and experts of the world don't care about the masses, they only care about the same thing that the Governing body cares about------------American $$$$$$$$

  All the big corporations producing the vaccine get an incentive from the government in the form of billions of dollars. And they get immunity in case something weird happens to masses.
  

  The problem with the vaccine is we have no idea what the long term side effects it will have. 10 years down the line you might lose your penis.
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  Is it possible for any Country to have “Reasonable” Gun Laws? What would they be?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so the new biden/harris gun policies are starting to appear.

  it’s not clear yet, what they will be.. some suggestions; confiscate all guns.------buyback programs in each state.. there is much talk on social media that if this happens, the pandemic, + all the riots, + all the damaged property, + all the annual murders in america, - put together-will be like a sunday afternoon picnic, compared to all the deaths and property damage that will result because of “civil uprising” by millions of 2nd amendments advocates and just plain gun lovers.

  americans love guns!.

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  How did this monster get a gun? Could we have prevented it?

  That's like asking; Could we have prevented this!
  

  In Australia, an estimated 20,000 children are reported missing every year.
  Australian Federal Police, National Coordination Centre.

  In Canada, an estimated 45,288 children are reported missing each year.
  Government of Canada, Canada’s Missing – 2015 Fast Fact Sheet.

  In Germany, an estimated 100,000 children are reported missing each year.
  Initiative Vermisste Kinder.

  In India, an estimated 96,000 children go missing each year.
  Bachpan Bachao Andolan, Missing Children of India.

  In Jamaica, an estimated 1,984 children were reporting missing in 2015.
  Jamaica’s Office of Children’s Registry

  In Russia, an estimated 45,000 children were reported missing in 2015.
  Interview with Pavel Astakhov MIA “Russia Today”, Apr. 4, 2016.

  In Spain, an estimated 20,000 children are reported missing every year.
  Spain Joins EU Hotline for Missing Children, Sep. 22, 2010.

  In the United Kingdom, an estimated 112,853 children are reported missing every year.
  National Crime Agency, UK Missing Persons Bureau.

  In the United States, an estimated 460,000 children are reported missing every year.
  Federal Bureau of Investigation, NCIC.

  https://globalmissingkids.org/awareness/missing-children-statistics/

  don't just insist it was inevitable like some fatalist doomsayer

  REALLY!!!!