OnTheWayOut
Coming up with excuses for a God who isn't there?
How about "He isn't there." ?
What if he is??
pistolpete
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If God exists, what would be a good reason why he never communicates or helps his creation by intervention?
by pistolpete inyou have probably heard all kinds of excuses why god doesn’t communicates with his creation or why he doesn’t intervene.. some examples.. no one can see god because he is a spirit.. but we can hear god---yet he chooses not to talk to humanity.. god only communicates with certain people.
moses, samuel, abraham, etc.
but there are many people today who also claim that god spoke to them yet we ignore them but believe god spoke to people who lived thousands of years ago and we can’t really verify if that was so.
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If God exists, what would be a good reason why he never communicates or helps his creation by intervention?
by pistolpete inyou have probably heard all kinds of excuses why god doesn’t communicates with his creation or why he doesn’t intervene.. some examples.. no one can see god because he is a spirit.. but we can hear god---yet he chooses not to talk to humanity.. god only communicates with certain people.
moses, samuel, abraham, etc.
but there are many people today who also claim that god spoke to them yet we ignore them but believe god spoke to people who lived thousands of years ago and we can’t really verify if that was so.
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pistolpete
truth_b_known
Look at it another way - suppose there was a consciousness that decided to manifest as the universe. Everything, everyone is this divine consciousness. This consciousness wants everyone to recognize the divinity within as that is where divinity is hidden. Our job is to wake up and realize this.
Yes, this is a possibility!
People in the past, like in the time of Moses or Jesus, had no idea about things such as galaxies, solar systems, etc.
Perhaps we are getting closer to finding out what the hell is going on.
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If God exists, what would be a good reason why he never communicates or helps his creation by intervention?
by pistolpete inyou have probably heard all kinds of excuses why god doesn’t communicates with his creation or why he doesn’t intervene.. some examples.. no one can see god because he is a spirit.. but we can hear god---yet he chooses not to talk to humanity.. god only communicates with certain people.
moses, samuel, abraham, etc.
but there are many people today who also claim that god spoke to them yet we ignore them but believe god spoke to people who lived thousands of years ago and we can’t really verify if that was so.
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notsurewheretogo
Imagine being a parent but hiding your communication to your children. The point here is that it seems the lack of any considerable communication lends weight to the side that a god does not exist or a god who is a dick.
I agree with you NSWTG.It does seem that way.
But it's possible there are other reasons why he doesn't communicate with his creation which I am try to explore.
As an example, I know someone whose father disappeared from the time he was born. The wife/mother and the son called the father a loser, coward and other names.
Come to find out 30 years later that he got kidnapped and died during the ordeal.
The assumption that the father was a dick was way off.
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If God exists, what would be a good reason why he never communicates or helps his creation by intervention?
by pistolpete inyou have probably heard all kinds of excuses why god doesn’t communicates with his creation or why he doesn’t intervene.. some examples.. no one can see god because he is a spirit.. but we can hear god---yet he chooses not to talk to humanity.. god only communicates with certain people.
moses, samuel, abraham, etc.
but there are many people today who also claim that god spoke to them yet we ignore them but believe god spoke to people who lived thousands of years ago and we can’t really verify if that was so.
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slimboyfat
The question posed assumes that those who believe God does communicate with them are all mistaken. What is the basis for this assumption?
The assumption is based on what we as humans parents consider normal, communication between "Loving" parents and their children.
Loving Parents would not communicate with only one or two children, and refuse to talk to the other ten children.for an entire lifetime.
A loving parent talks to all his children.He comes to all their rescue when needed, not just one or two. He gives personal instruction to each one of them.
Why would an Almighty God who is the very personification of Love, Justice, Righteous Acts, and Not Partial, only speak to 10 or so humans in the entire history of humankind?????
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If God exists, what would be a good reason why he never communicates or helps his creation by intervention?
by pistolpete inyou have probably heard all kinds of excuses why god doesn’t communicates with his creation or why he doesn’t intervene.. some examples.. no one can see god because he is a spirit.. but we can hear god---yet he chooses not to talk to humanity.. god only communicates with certain people.
moses, samuel, abraham, etc.
but there are many people today who also claim that god spoke to them yet we ignore them but believe god spoke to people who lived thousands of years ago and we can’t really verify if that was so.
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truth_b_known
I believe the real question being asked is "If the God of the Abrahamic faiths really exists and the literal sense of the Bible were true
I was not talking specifically about the God of the Bible or the God of Abraham.
I was talking about "GOD" --whoever that might be, - OR - CREATOR-because some people believe in a CREATOR---but don't believe in the God of the Bible.
It's possible GOD could just be a powerful CREATOR who WAS around a long time but not necessarily OMNIPOTENT, OMNISCIENT, BENEVOLENT OR EVERLASTING.
JUST LIKE EGO the God-like creator in the movie Guardian of the Galaxy volume 2.
This being called EGO explained his origins this way;
This form you see before you is only an extension of who I truly am.
I don’t know where I came from, exactly. The first thing I remember is flickering, adrift in the cosmos - utterly and entirely alone.
"Over millions of years, I learned to control the molecules around me. I grew smarter, I fed on the matter around me like plankton. I formed a sheathe to protect myself from the elements. and grew stronger. And I continued building from there, layer by layer, the very planet you walk on now."
"But I was no ant to be fulfilled solely by labor. I wanted more. I desired... meaning. There must be some life out there in the universe besides just me, I thought, and I set myself to task with finding it.
Finally I created what I imagined biological life to be like. Down to the most minute detail."
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If God exists, what would be a good reason why he never communicates or helps his creation by intervention?
by pistolpete inyou have probably heard all kinds of excuses why god doesn’t communicates with his creation or why he doesn’t intervene.. some examples.. no one can see god because he is a spirit.. but we can hear god---yet he chooses not to talk to humanity.. god only communicates with certain people.
moses, samuel, abraham, etc.
but there are many people today who also claim that god spoke to them yet we ignore them but believe god spoke to people who lived thousands of years ago and we can’t really verify if that was so.
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pistolpete
You have probably heard all kinds of excuses why God doesn’t communicates with his creation or why he doesn’t intervene.
Some examples.
No one can see God because he is a spirit.
But we can hear God---yet he chooses not to talk to humanity.
God only communicates with certain people. Moses, Samuel, Abraham, etc.
But there are many people today who also claim that God spoke to them yet we ignore them but believe God spoke to people who lived thousands of years ago and we can’t really verify if that was so.
The Universal Sovereignty issue and God’s right to rule. Meaning God cannot interfere and communicate with humans.
But the devil can through spiritism.
God’s wisdom is beyond our comprehension, and there is a perfect reason why he allows cruel suffering and pain on humans as well as animals.
Which is hard to convince two cities that experienced what it's llike being NUKED. I'm talking about Japan.
OPTIONS WHY GOD DOESN’T COMMUNICATE WITH HUMANS.
GOD CREATED LIFE, BUT IS NOT ALL POWERFUL. Thus he can’t stop earthquakes, hurricanes, and doesn’t know how to create humans that live forever. We don't have ANY, EVIDENCE OF A HUMAN CAPABLE OF LIVING FOREVER ----ONLY RELIGIOUS ASSUMPTIONS.
GOD CREATED LIFE BUT GOD IS NOT BENEVOLENT. In other words God views humans and animals like we humans view bacteria or microbes that eat one another. We as humans have no compassion for microbes because they are insignificant to us, but they are interesting to watch them eat one another under a microscope.
GOD CREATED LIFE BUT IS NOT OMNISCIENT. In other words God figured out how to create life, but that’s it, His knowledge is limited and God can’t create humans that are immortal.
He didn’t figure out everything perfectly either in his material creation. Like if he was truly all knowing, he could have easily figure out how to create the earth’s moving plates to slide easily over each other, instead of the way they crash into each other and cause earthquakes and tsunamis.
He could have easily created humas and animals that sustain themselves on the energy of sunlight, just like the plants instead of humans and animals devouring each other and avoid the bloody mess.
He could have tamed the sexual desire or controlled it so as to help humans avoid certain crimes and overpopulate the earth, thus forcing some humans to fight and kill for limited resources.
And another option could be that God was a Creator but was never EVERLASTING.
He created just like humans create, but eventually became non-existent.just like human creators
God's creation still exists, just like some of man’s creations continue to exist even though the original human Creators has long passed away.
https://www.grunge.com/327172/the-oldest-buildings-still-in-use-today/
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Religion and Coronavirus....
by mikeflood inhave you heard this?
in the country of guatemala, by presidential mandate, all religion meetings should be celebrated only on-line!.
generally speaking, i wonder how worlwide restrictions on religious activities because of the pandemia are affecting them ...and the borg in particular.
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pistolpete
The borg is getting EVEN MORE DONATIONS.
From what I am hearing from JWS,, they are more than happy to give EVEN MORE Money rather than get dressed, drive, and go to a Kingdom Hall. And no more door to door field service.
Several JWs have told me they hope the Kingdom Halls never opens and Zoom stays here forever.
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The Stupidity Of The Biden Administration Knows No Bounds
by Simon inso picture this, you are suddenly withdrawing troops after 2 decades in a country and, well, its all gone to shit.. how do you ensure that your vulnerable citizens and allies can get out when the airport is surrounded and no one can get through?.
option 1: it's a trick question surely?
you don't get yourself into this mess in the first place - you withdraw the citizens first, not last, duh!.
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pistolpete
Open Borders, Afghanistan refugees, Elections laws changed, Military Woke, CRT, is a part of the Bigger plan.
The puzzle’s first few pieces make it hard to see what the final outcome will be. But now, some politicians and News people are starting to see what all this is about.
It’s become clear that the Biden Administration is bringing in hundreds of thousands if not millions of refugees from Afghanistan “SECRETLY into the United States who were not assisting the USA in any capacity.
The administration is saying that they are Translators, Medical personal, and other support groups, but it is becoming apparent that these refugees Translators don’t even know how to speak English, or have any medical experience.
So who are these hundreds of thousands of Afgans refugees?
They are being given citizenship under the condition that they vote Democratic on the next election.
This is the reason Cuban refugees are DENIED entry into the border but Afgans who don’t speak the language and those coming in the Southern Border are granted citizenship as long as they agree to vote Democratic in the next election which will not require ID to cast a vote.
This is all part of the Plan to make the United States ONE PARTY----DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM.
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Pfizer becomes first Covid vaccine to gain full FDA approval
by PaddyTheBaddy ingreat news.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58309254.
pfizer's two-dose covid-19 vaccine has received full approval from the us food and drug administration (fda) - the first jab to be licensed in the nation.. .
the vaccine had initially been given emergency use authorisation.
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pistolpete
Corona virus is in quartine after a brief visit with Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris at 81 years of age after Corona
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JWs are bigger and more successful than the Mormon church
by joe134cd injust saw the following you tube video.
it’s 3 hours long, but thoroughly interesting.
if you want to save yourself 3 hours, basically the active mormon church is about 3 million.
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pistolpete
Well Covid sure has done a good job in reducing members in all religious faiths.