Posts by pistolpete

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Would You Like To Be God?

by Ultimate Axiom in

we know there are a few on this forum who think they are, but consider this for a while.

if you are god, you are omniscient, therefore you have nothing to learn.

nothing to research, investigate or explore as there is nothing you don’t already know.

pistolpete

If you are God, you are omniscient, therefore you have nothing to learn. Nothing to research, investigate or explore as there is nothing you don’t already know......You are also omnipotent, so nothing you can’t do, nothing challenges you. ...You are also infinite. You had no beginning and will have no end.
How do you fill an infinite number of years being all knowing, all powerful and all alone? And when you do create someone, unless you create them equally omniscient, you will be infinitely cleverer than them

I would definitely accept the challenge or gift, whatever you want to call it.

Right now I'm at a point in life where I literally don't have to work ever again. I have a huge house paid for, a lovely lady, and some kids that are growing up fast.

I have enough money to do anything I want.

But you know what I enjoy. Taking a walk around our land with my lady. Seeing the sunrise with a cup of coffee. Watching a sunset with the people I love.

I do this just about every day and it never gets tiring. My days go by so fast, that it scares me.

I don't have to learn anything new or conquer some stupendous project. I know everything there is to know about making a fine pizza, yet I never get tired of eating Pizza. I never get tired of a medium rare Rib-eye or ice cream.

Living is a wonderful gift. I've seen 100 year plus old people that can barely walk, can't hear, are almost totally blind----but they don't want to die. They hang on to every precious second of life.

If by some chance I became God, with all the so called qualities of a God, I could definitely do a better job at creation than the Christian God of the bible.

I wouldn't create a world were living things have to kill other living things just to survive.

I wouldn't dangle a carrot of everlasting life on my creation, causing them anxiety and fear. It would just be a gift with no strings attached.

And I would make sure that all my creation personally, gets an "Owners Manual" on how to live life peacefully and without any fear of dying, thus putting a lid on any false religion from cropping up.

When I read the bible growing up in a jw family, it always amazed and bewildered me how people could believe that the god of the bible was some person of love and justice. All you have to do is read the bible a few times to see that the God of the bible is just a description of a "Human" with all the qualities that humans possess, like envy, jealousy, anger, not very smart in handling problems.

Even his power of parting a sea, causing a pestilence, making manna, maneuvering nations to kill one another, is very low imagination of what a God could do.

The ancient writers didn't have the intelligence or imagination to create a wiser, more powerful, and loving God.

In today's world, a 10 year old kid could create and write about a more powerful and smarter God.

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2021-12-20----Video and Letter----Invitation To JW Studios!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

2021-12-20--jw studios video and letter.. zipped folder.

https://www.filemail.com/d/uuxgaitbayleicg.

atlantis!.

pistolpete

Look at the left most tab.

What's in the TAB?????

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Anyone watch Evans video on the Bethalite who left?

by mickbobcat in

i don't know if he was a regular betalite but either way he left and in the interview he says some of the gb are very intelligent.

the whole thing came across to me as this guy may have just left and is still a little wonky about talking against the gb.

i don't buy from all i have seen that any of the gb are very intelligent.. [video removed].

pistolpete

he says some of the GB are very intelligent

And-----the GB invented Zoom, the internet, and Nuclear weapons.

And not many people know this, but Neil Armstrong was not the first man to walk on the moon----it was the GB.

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MY GOSPEL

by pistolpete in

has anyone ever read the new testament- critically- and not theologically?

by theologically i mean not reading the bible with the intention of understanding the nature of god and religious truth.

but instead, reading the bible by analyzing only the facts of what is written, in an unbiased frame of mind to pull out what is actually happening in the written stories.. first of all, if you were to read the nt in chronological order, paul’s 7 authentic letters would come before the gospels of matthew, mark, luke, and john.

pistolpete

Here is another interesting point that proves that Paul was preaching His Own Gospel and not the Gospel that Jesus taught his Apostles.

When Paul wrote to the Galatians, he told them specifically that the Gospel he preached to them about Jesus, was not the same Gospel that “Human” Jesus taught the Apostles.

In other words, what he was telling the Galatians was that the Gospel that Jesus taught the Apostles was obsolete, because the New Spirit Jesus has personally appeared to him, (Paul) and had given him another Better Gospel.

In fact Paul told the Galatians that it was not even necessary for him to confer, or meet with the Apostles in order to deliberate together or compare views. Notice this in the book of Galatians.

ISV Galatians 1:1 From: Paul—an apostle not sent from men or by a man, but by Jesus the Messiah,

Notice in this verse that Paul qualifies himself as an Apostle.

The apostles in Jerusalem Never appointed Paul as an Apostle.

Now notice in this other verse that Paul defiantly tells the Galatians that the Apostles in Jerusalem who were taught by Jesus personally were not the ones who taught him. Instead Paul tells the Galatians that Spirit Jesus PERSONALLY TAUGHT HIM THE NEW GOSPEL.

Galtians 1:11-12 11 For I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel that was proclaimed by me is not of human origin. 12 For I did not receive it from a man, nor was I taught it, but it was revealed to me by Jesus the Messiah

Now in this other verse Paul goes as far as saying that God has chosen him before he was even born. Which trumps the other 12 apostles because they were not chosen before they were bore.

Galatians 1:15 But when God, who set me apart before I was born and who called me by his grace, was pleased 16 to reveal his Son to me so that I might proclaim him among the gentiles,

Then to finally seal the deal that the 12 Apostles were NOTHING compared to him, he says that the 12 Apostles had no authority over him regarding what the TRUE Gospel was. So there was no need to ask for permission from the 12 apostles.

Galatians 1: 17; nor did I go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before me.

This is why there was so much division among the early congregations of Christianity. Paul was causing chaos and confusion between the Gospel that the 12 apostles taught by Jesus---- were teaching, and the Gospel Paul was teaching.

The reason many Gentiles believed that Spirit Jesus was speaking with Paul in secret, was because they were already primed for believing such things, considering that gentiles back then believed in many Gods, spirits of the dead, and demonic spirits of the underworld.

Thus it was no big deal for Gentiles to believe some stranger who was saying that an invisible Spirit Jesus was teaching him the New Gospel of salvation.

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MY GOSPEL

by pistolpete in

has anyone ever read the new testament- critically- and not theologically?

by theologically i mean not reading the bible with the intention of understanding the nature of god and religious truth.

but instead, reading the bible by analyzing only the facts of what is written, in an unbiased frame of mind to pull out what is actually happening in the written stories.. first of all, if you were to read the nt in chronological order, paul’s 7 authentic letters would come before the gospels of matthew, mark, luke, and john.

pistolpete

Here is another point of interest that shows Paul was not preaching the same thing that the Apostles in Jerusalem were teaching.

The author of the book of Acts tries to paint a rosy picture of harmony between Paul and the Apostles. He tries to give the impression that Paul and the Apostles were all preaching the same gospel message.

At the very end of Acts, Paul visits Jerusalem for the last time and it seems that the author of Acts reveals more than he intended.

The truth finally comes out. The Apostles had heard some bad rumors about Paul. They had heard that Paul was preaching a different gospel than the one Jesus taught them to preach, and they were concern that Paul was not only lying about what Jesus taught, but was also stumbling a lot of believers.

When Paul arrives in Jerusalem, James and all the elders who had become believers in the gospel of Jesus wanted to dispel that Rumor that Paul was teaching the new converts that the Law of Moses had been abolished. This is what the account says:

RSV Acts 21: 18-22; On the following day Paul went in with us to James; and all the elders were present. 19 After greeting them, he related one by one the things that God had done among the Gentiles through his ministry. And they said to him, “You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed; they are all zealous for the law,

21 and they have been told about you that you teach all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or observe the customs. 22 What then is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come.

Now this is important to James, the rest of the Apostles, all the elders who had come to believe in the gospel of Jesus, and all those others who had come to believe in the gospel of Jesus as well.

The reason being because Jesus made it plain that he did not come to abolish the Law of Moses. That was not part of his Gospel.

AMP Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I came to do away with or undo the Law [of Moses] or the [writings of the] Prophets; I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.

James then proposes to Paul that something needs to be done to prove the rumor is false. So this is what happens.

Acts 21:23-24 Do therefore what we tell you. We have four men who are under a vow; 24 take these men and purify yourself along with them and pay their expenses, so that they may shave their heads. Thus all will know that there is nothing in what they have been told about you but that you yourself live in observance of the law.

During this time Paul keeps silent. He neither denies or confirms that he has been preaching that the law of Moses has been abolished. He just goes along with it saying nothing, so as not to be labeled an apostate and thus lose all his converts.

Paul had a way of living a double life and using what the Watchtower calls Theocratic Warfare. In other words he lied when he needed to.

1 Corinthians 9:20 o the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews; to those under the law I became as one under the law—though not being myself under the law—that I might win those under the law.

So the apostles had heard through the grapevine that something was not right with the Gospel Paul was preaching about Jesus Christ.The book of Acts reveals this point about Paul's Gospel. That it was different than what the Apostles or even Jesus actually preached.

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MY GOSPEL

by pistolpete in

has anyone ever read the new testament- critically- and not theologically?

by theologically i mean not reading the bible with the intention of understanding the nature of god and religious truth.

but instead, reading the bible by analyzing only the facts of what is written, in an unbiased frame of mind to pull out what is actually happening in the written stories.. first of all, if you were to read the nt in chronological order, paul’s 7 authentic letters would come before the gospels of matthew, mark, luke, and john.

pistolpete

Has anyone ever read the New Testament- Critically- and not Theologically? By Theologically I mean not reading the bible with the intention of understanding the nature of God and religious truth.

But instead, reading the bible by analyzing Only the facts of what is written, in an unbiased frame of mind to pull out what is actually happening in the written stories.

First of all, if you were to read the NT in chronological order, Paul’s 7 authentic letters would come Before the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Meaning, every other NT bible book following Paul’s letters would be Pauline Influenced, including the 4 Gospels.

With that in mind noticed what Paul says in his letters, (Not Acts of Apostles because that book was not written by Paul).

Paul when writing his letters to those disciples he converted, he uses the term; “My Gospel”

Not the Gospel of Jesus---but-- “MY-Gospel”

The New world translation changes the term My Gospel to “The Good News I Declare, to hid the idea of Paul’s Gospel”

But most bible translations come closer to the actual translation which reads “My (Paul's) Gospel”

One example of many reads; RSV Romans 2:16; on that day when, according to MY GOSPEL, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.

As you continue to read critically, you start noticing that Paul was not preaching the same Gospel that Jesus preached. He always refers to the message he preaches as; MY GOSPEL. In fact Paul’s Gospel does not reflect the Gospel that the 12 apostles preached after the death of their Teacher-Jesus.

Jesus preached that the Kingdom of God had drawn near. This kingdom was envisioned as an era of peace and justice on earth for all humankind inaugurated by a Messiah of the descendant of the royal lineage of King David, ruling over the nations of the world. Jeremiah 33:15

Jesus described it in simple terms and taught his disciples to pray: “Let your Kingdom come, let you will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven”

Jesus had the same expectation as all the Jews had at that time, which was a coming messiah in the linage of King David, who would be the saviour or liberator of the Jewish nation in the hands of the Romans and extending beyond.

This is the message the 12 apostles taught after the death of Jesus.

This is not the same gospel Paul Taught. In fact Paul, who called himself an Apostle, never actually fit the qualifications of an apostle according to the requirements set forth in Acts chapter one. The person qualifying had to meet certain criteria.

The person being appointed an apostle had to be someone who accompanied the other apostles during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among them. The person had to start associating with Jesus from the beginning of the baptism of John until the day when he was crucified and taken up from them. Also he had to become one of the persons who was a witness to Jesus’s resurrection. (Acts 1)

Paul did not meet any of these requirements. Not even one.

The way Paul qualified was that He qualified himself by saying that Jesus appeared to him as an invisible spirit and tutored him personally and regularly.

It was approx 7 years after Jesus death that Paul “Claimed” to have received tutoring from the Immortal Spirit Jesus. (This was not the same incident that the book of Acts relates about Paul’s trip to Damascus and how a flash of light blinded him. Interestingly, Paul NEVER mentions this incident in all the letters he wrote. It would only make sense that this would be something he would mention as it would help his converts be impressed on how he was chosen by Jesus.)

What Paul actually said in his letters is this;

RSV Galatians 1:12 For I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ. …..was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not confer with flesh and blood

“These revelations were not a one time experience of conversion but a phenomenon that continued over the course of Paul’s life, involving many verbal exchanges with Jesus. Also Paul confessed that he received many extraordinary revelations of a nature that Paul was thoroughly convinced that no other human in history, including the 12 Apostles, had received.”

In fact, Paul even described some type of ecstatic spiritual experience, that he underwent and couldn’t comprehend whether it was “in the body, or out of the body” 2 Corinthians 12: 1-10

As you continue reading critically, you find that Paul and the Apostles were actually fighting with each other regarding the Message of Jesus. Paul made up a completely different Gospel that introduced a cosmic family, a Heavenly Kingdom, a Spiritual Body, and some other things that the 12 original Apostles never taught.

In fact, many of the things Paul taught were outright contradictions of what Jesus taught. For example;

Jesus said: NOT EVERYONE who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven (Mat 7)

Paul contradicted Jesus by saying: EVERYONE who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved (Romans 10)

One last thing that is really important.

PAUL NEVER MET JESUS.

Paul’s qualifications was based on his personal account of what he experienced. His visions and tutoring by the Immortal Spirit Jesus, were experiences that only Paul himself could account for because there were no eye witnesses to testify that what Paul said was actually true.

There was no evidence or eyewitnesses, that Jesus actually appeared to Paul and had lengthy, regular, tutoring sessions, on the Kingdom, the resurrection, angels, the devil, and that humans would be resurrected with a spiritual body to rule the universe and judge angels. Basically the entire foundation of what Paul taught is based on Paul saying;

“Immortal Spirit Jesus appears to me regularly and talks to me.”

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GB 2021 Update #10 - "get vaccinated"

by neat blue dog in

am the turd comes the closest to just coming right out and telling jws they have to do it.

he says, 'there's no need to worry, just keep doing what works: wear masks, wash your hands and get vaccinated when possible'.

the busybodies are going to be even more insufferable now than they have been.

pistolpete

Konagirl

I've had covid and am in my 60's. I have no underlying health problems, but it took a month to get over the severe fatigue. I have a 40 year-old niece who is very overweight and diabetic, and had covid for three days. Nothing seems to really makes sense in how this disease works, but I'm glad to have received natural immunity

Kg you are correct regarding the fact that nothing makes sense regarding this virus. One of my workers just got Covid AGAIN for the second time. He had natural immunity. Both times he just got a slight fever and a little weak. He is young, early 30s and in good physical health.

The best we can do is stay as healthy as possible, use common sense regarding large crowds, and keep plugging away.

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GB 2021 Update #10 - "get vaccinated"

by neat blue dog in

am the turd comes the closest to just coming right out and telling jws they have to do it.

he says, 'there's no need to worry, just keep doing what works: wear masks, wash your hands and get vaccinated when possible'.

the busybodies are going to be even more insufferable now than they have been.

pistolpete

Anony Mous

In the US only 48000 people have died from COVID under the age of 50 in the last 2 years. The majority of people that died were elderly or had other underlying conditions. More people died in car accidents and overdoses in that age bracket, actually the increased amount of overdoses (more than 20000 MORE overdoses in 2020 vs 2019 and it looks like 2021 will be even worse with it probably topping more than 100,000 overdoses totally) which would outstrip the younger people dying from COVID since 2020.

I really appreciate all the stats you bring out. It paints a pretty good image in my mind of exactly what is going on.

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2020’s are already a Train Wreck for JW ORG

by Reservations in

as the title says, we are nearly at the end of the 2nd year of the 2020’s, and already jw org is not only a car crash, but an absolute train wreck.. i’ve watched the annual meeting 2021 already, and it seems the gb are in fighting, morris openly disagreeing with lett, that is massive, and it’s something that has largely not been commented on by this community.

covid-19 is not going anywhere, any trial meetings will surely be shut down, now omicron is doing the rounds.. it looks highly likely we will see a second negative growth year.

“young ones” are waking up by the masses.

pistolpete

LongHairGal

Therefore, the TRUE number of real believers is lower than what anybody really thinks. This number is always bound to go down by the deaths of older ones “dying off by the shed load” as you say.

Let's be real-----most likely there is about 4 or 5 million True Believers World wide, and some 90 plus percent are over 60 years old.

There's over 60,000 exjw on reddit on just about all of them are PIMO because of family.

They all say the same thing;

"As soon as my Mom/Dad dies, I'm Out"

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Jussie Smollett on trial

by LoveUniHateExams in

there is a trial currently starting - even funnier than the baldwin nonsense.. yes, everyone's favorite actor, singer and hate crime victim is going on trial.. i am, of course, talking about jussie smollett.

he's going on trial for lying to chicago police and wasting their time.. he's obviously as guilty as hell, but i just can't wait for this to unfold.. it's gonna be hilarious ....

pistolpete

The Left was waiting for Jussie Smollet to be vindicated.

I guess the Court found Smollett Guilty of lying. Which is unusual considering it is his own left wing "Friends" who are now turning on him.

The actor faces up to three year in jail

Maybe some of the left is getting tired of all the hypocrisy.

https://nypost.com/2021/12/09/jussie-smollett-trial-jury-reaches-a-verdict/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tawofYhXmYg