one of my jw family member had a big get together.
he invited a lot of his jw friends.
there was teenage kids, couples, singles.
RTN; Not here. Still following the isolation/mask crap. No get togethers. Any young ones who try to date are watched.
You're in a pocket of radical jw believers. These are the type of people that would Drink the Kool-aid if the Governing Body told them.
These are the type of radicals that make life a misery and burden the gullible with all kinds of rules.
one of my jw family member had a big get together.
he invited a lot of his jw friends.
there was teenage kids, couples, singles.
've noticed that JW's who are active on Facebook and Instagram seem to be fairly normal these days, but I just assumed it was because they were more laid back to begin with.I didn't realize it was more than that.
I think what's happening is that they are transitioning into the REAL WORLD.
Once these GB members die off, then they will slowly start erasing the idea of the Last days started in 1914.
Once that's gone, it will become just another Christian religion sect to join the other 40,000 who are also on the sidelines.
one of my jw family member had a big get together.
he invited a lot of his jw friends.
there was teenage kids, couples, singles.
It’s different now.
What I didn’t even consider is that they haven’t been to a kingdom hall meeting for almost two years. Everything has been Zoom and writing letters.
There is no doubt in my mind that the elders have lost a lot of control over the publishers.
The fact that there is no official meetings for field service means that there is no gossip that alerts the elders if someone is doing something bad.
There is no pressure that someone is not attending meetings or field service
A lot of the jws are getting married with non- witnessess. Many are doing their own thing and just avoid the elders.
There was two young baptized jws with their non-jw girlfriends, and no one blinked an eye. Another male baptized jw was there with his new wife who was not a JW. Two teenage jws girls were relating their stories about their non jw boyfriends.
No one made a fuss about any of this.
We talked about forbidden things like normal. Guns, politics, movies about magic, sex, violence, etc.
No one has any idea if someone goes to the hospital and takes blood.
No one cares that it’s the Last Days and no one brought up the last days. I honestly think they don’t believe anymore. Only the real old ones like 80s and up.
The organization has lost a LOT of CONTROL.
I am sure there are still pockets of true believers but I think the whole thing is changing right before our eyes.
i was curious if anyone had/has any experience with the use of colloidal silver for antibiotic and/or wound healing?
a health food store clerk recommended this in answer to my question about such.. thank you in advance.. just as a ps, i have heard about the man who turned his skin complexion blue.
apparently he ingested large amounts and applied it all over himself for an extended period.
I would just go to a doctor. The practice has worked for hundreds of millions of people.
170 years of watchtower history.
this video was made using material researched from their own publications as well as outside sources.. this wasn't produced to bash the organisation but provide a background to its origin and path to today.
the organisation's falls on the merit that this is factual and not sensational.
The Overlapping Generation bought the WT another 80 years--not 25 years.
we know there are a few on this forum who think they are, but consider this for a while.
if you are god, you are omniscient, therefore you have nothing to learn.
nothing to research, investigate or explore as there is nothing you don’t already know.
If you are God, you are omniscient, therefore you have nothing to learn. Nothing to research, investigate or explore as there is nothing you don’t already know......You are also omnipotent, so nothing you can’t do, nothing challenges you. ...You are also infinite. You had no beginning and will have no end.
How do you fill an infinite number of years being all knowing, all powerful and all alone? And when you do create someone, unless you create them equally omniscient, you will be infinitely cleverer than them
I would definitely accept the challenge or gift, whatever you want to call it.
Right now I'm at a point in life where I literally don't have to work ever again. I have a huge house paid for, a lovely lady, and some kids that are growing up fast.
I have enough money to do anything I want.
But you know what I enjoy. Taking a walk around our land with my lady. Seeing the sunrise with a cup of coffee. Watching a sunset with the people I love.
I do this just about every day and it never gets tiring. My days go by so fast, that it scares me.
I don't have to learn anything new or conquer some stupendous project. I know everything there is to know about making a fine pizza, yet I never get tired of eating Pizza. I never get tired of a medium rare Rib-eye or ice cream.
Living is a wonderful gift. I've seen 100 year plus old people that can barely walk, can't hear, are almost totally blind----but they don't want to die. They hang on to every precious second of life.
If by some chance I became God, with all the so called qualities of a God, I could definitely do a better job at creation than the Christian God of the bible.
I wouldn't create a world were living things have to kill other living things just to survive.
I wouldn't dangle a carrot of everlasting life on my creation, causing them anxiety and fear. It would just be a gift with no strings attached.
And I would make sure that all my creation personally, gets an "Owners Manual" on how to live life peacefully and without any fear of dying, thus putting a lid on any false religion from cropping up.
When I read the bible growing up in a jw family, it always amazed and bewildered me how people could believe that the god of the bible was some person of love and justice. All you have to do is read the bible a few times to see that the God of the bible is just a description of a "Human" with all the qualities that humans possess, like envy, jealousy, anger, not very smart in handling problems.
Even his power of parting a sea, causing a pestilence, making manna, maneuvering nations to kill one another, is very low imagination of what a God could do.
The ancient writers didn't have the intelligence or imagination to create a wiser, more powerful, and loving God.
In today's world, a 10 year old kid could create and write about a more powerful and smarter God.
2021-12-20--jw studios video and letter.. zipped folder.
https://www.filemail.com/d/uuxgaitbayleicg.
atlantis!.
Look at the left most tab.
What's in the TAB?????
i don't know if he was a regular betalite but either way he left and in the interview he says some of the gb are very intelligent.
the whole thing came across to me as this guy may have just left and is still a little wonky about talking against the gb.
i don't buy from all i have seen that any of the gb are very intelligent.. [video removed].
he says some of the GB are very intelligent
And-----the GB invented Zoom, the internet, and Nuclear weapons.
And not many people know this, but Neil Armstrong was not the first man to walk on the moon----it was the GB.
has anyone ever read the new testament- critically- and not theologically?
by theologically i mean not reading the bible with the intention of understanding the nature of god and religious truth.
but instead, reading the bible by analyzing only the facts of what is written, in an unbiased frame of mind to pull out what is actually happening in the written stories.. first of all, if you were to read the nt in chronological order, paul’s 7 authentic letters would come before the gospels of matthew, mark, luke, and john.
Here is another interesting point that proves that Paul was preaching His Own Gospel and not the Gospel that Jesus taught his Apostles.
When Paul wrote to the Galatians, he told them specifically that the Gospel he preached to them about Jesus, was not the same Gospel that “Human” Jesus taught the Apostles.
In other words, what he was telling the Galatians was that the Gospel that Jesus taught the Apostles was obsolete, because the New Spirit Jesus has personally appeared to him, (Paul) and had given him another Better Gospel.
In fact Paul told the Galatians that it was not even necessary for him to confer, or meet with the Apostles in order to deliberate together or compare views. Notice this in the book of Galatians.
ISV Galatians 1:1 From: Paul—an apostle not sent from men or by a man, but by Jesus the Messiah,
Notice in this verse that Paul qualifies himself as an Apostle.
The apostles in Jerusalem Never appointed Paul as an Apostle.
Now notice in this other verse that Paul defiantly tells the Galatians that the Apostles in Jerusalem who were taught by Jesus personally were not the ones who taught him. Instead Paul tells the Galatians that Spirit Jesus PERSONALLY TAUGHT HIM THE NEW GOSPEL.
Galtians 1:11-12 11 For I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel that was proclaimed by me is not of human origin. 12 For I did not receive it from a man, nor was I taught it, but it was revealed to me by Jesus the Messiah
Now in this other verse Paul goes as far as saying that God has chosen him before he was even born. Which trumps the other 12 apostles because they were not chosen before they were bore.
Galatians 1:15 But when God, who set me apart before I was born and who called me by his grace, was pleased 16 to reveal his Son to me so that I might proclaim him among the gentiles,
Then to finally seal the deal that the 12 Apostles were NOTHING compared to him, he says that the 12 Apostles had no authority over him regarding what the TRUE Gospel was. So there was no need to ask for permission from the 12 apostles.
Galatians 1: 17; nor did I go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before me.
This is why there was so much division among the early congregations of Christianity. Paul was causing chaos and confusion between the Gospel that the 12 apostles taught by Jesus---- were teaching, and the Gospel Paul was teaching.
The reason many Gentiles believed that Spirit Jesus was speaking with Paul in secret, was because they were already primed for believing such things, considering that gentiles back then believed in many Gods, spirits of the dead, and demonic spirits of the underworld.
Thus it was no big deal for Gentiles to believe some stranger who was saying that an invisible Spirit Jesus was teaching him the New Gospel of salvation.
has anyone ever read the new testament- critically- and not theologically?
by theologically i mean not reading the bible with the intention of understanding the nature of god and religious truth.
but instead, reading the bible by analyzing only the facts of what is written, in an unbiased frame of mind to pull out what is actually happening in the written stories.. first of all, if you were to read the nt in chronological order, paul’s 7 authentic letters would come before the gospels of matthew, mark, luke, and john.
Here is another point of interest that shows Paul was not preaching the same thing that the Apostles in Jerusalem were teaching.
The author of the book of Acts tries to paint a rosy picture of harmony between Paul and the Apostles. He tries to give the impression that Paul and the Apostles were all preaching the same gospel message.
At the very end of Acts, Paul visits Jerusalem for the last time and it seems that the author of Acts reveals more than he intended.
The truth finally comes out. The Apostles had heard some bad rumors about Paul. They had heard that Paul was preaching a different gospel than the one Jesus taught them to preach, and they were concern that Paul was not only lying about what Jesus taught, but was also stumbling a lot of believers.
When Paul arrives in Jerusalem, James and all the elders who had become believers in the gospel of Jesus wanted to dispel that Rumor that Paul was teaching the new converts that the Law of Moses had been abolished. This is what the account says:
RSV Acts 21: 18-22; On the following day Paul went in with us to James; and all the elders were present. 19 After greeting them, he related one by one the things that God had done among the Gentiles through his ministry. And they said to him, “You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed; they are all zealous for the law,
21 and they have been told about you that you teach all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or observe the customs. 22 What then is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come.
Now this is important to James, the rest of the Apostles, all the elders who had come to believe in the gospel of Jesus, and all those others who had come to believe in the gospel of Jesus as well.
The reason being because Jesus made it plain that he did not come to abolish the Law of Moses. That was not part of his Gospel.
AMP Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I came to do away with or undo the Law [of Moses] or the [writings of the] Prophets; I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
James then proposes to Paul that something needs to be done to prove the rumor is false. So this is what happens.
Acts 21:23-24 Do therefore what we tell you. We have four men who are under a vow; 24 take these men and purify yourself along with them and pay their expenses, so that they may shave their heads. Thus all will know that there is nothing in what they have been told about you but that you yourself live in observance of the law.
During this time Paul keeps silent. He neither denies or confirms that he has been preaching that the law of Moses has been abolished. He just goes along with it saying nothing, so as not to be labeled an apostate and thus lose all his converts.
Paul had a way of living a double life and using what the Watchtower calls Theocratic Warfare. In other words he lied when he needed to.
1 Corinthians 9:20 o the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews; to those under the law I became as one under the law—though not being myself under the law—that I might win those under the law.
So the apostles had
heard through the grapevine that something was not right with the
Gospel Paul was preaching about Jesus Christ.The book of Acts reveals this point about Paul's Gospel. That it was different than what the Apostles or even Jesus actually preached.
