Awesome stuff Cedars, once again. Thankyou for all your hard work and dedication put into opening the eyes of JWs and educating us who have left.
I think Ill letter box drop these to some of the crazy uber dubs in my area.
i've just finished my fourth and final "under the microscope" series of articles in which (hopefully) i've debunked many of the arguments often put forward by those claiming that jehovah's witnesses must be god's sole channel of communication with mankind.. this latest article focusses mostly on "the finished mystery" and the many errors contained therein that prove it couldn't possibly have been approved by christ when he was ostenisbly selecting the bible students as his chosen earthly representatives in 1919. i would like to thank and acknowledge alfred as being a huge help in compiling a list of key "highlights" of the book that serve to expose it for what it really is - a total work of fiction and absurdity.. shortly before alfred left this forum, we discussed the possibility of using his list to produce a special leaflet that people could print out themselves and insert in their "revelation climax" books, or "revelation climax" books belonging to family members.
i'm delighted to announce (with my best sunday afternoon convention speaker voice!
) that this leaflet is now ready, and available for download on the links below:.
Awesome stuff Cedars, once again. Thankyou for all your hard work and dedication put into opening the eyes of JWs and educating us who have left.
I think Ill letter box drop these to some of the crazy uber dubs in my area.
did you ever see those parents with kids on leashes at conventions?
i always disliked it and thought it was wierd/lazy...granted i have never been a parent so maybe i dont know.
video reminded me how silly/messed up those leashes are.. .
My second son was very active and a runner so we had to use one on him at shopping centres.
He quickly got around it though by throwing himself on the floor as soon as we put it on him.
One day after picking him up half a dozen times I gave the harness a tug as I was telling him to get up and some stupid old guy comes up and says 'hes not a dog you know'. I never used it again.
They are a good safety device when used properly.
in light of a lot of the watchtower's kool aid articles.
Unlike agent smith or father O'Flarety the apostate can hide as your husband, your favorite elder even...
in light of a lot of the watchtower's kool aid articles.
These days the mention of Ray Franz gets them all telling you chinese whispers.
Three dubs discussing him on field circus a few years ago described him as 'a violent man, started up his own religion, is a big believer in the trinity, has made himself a fortune - he left bethel for the money'.
I had no idea who he was but had the wrong impression that he was Fred Franz brother who left bethel of his own accord and caused big trouble for other bethelites ... wrong again! Im actually angry that they make up crap about a decent loving man who would have given you the shirt off his back and was treated like a mongrel dog by those he gave his life for.
The JWs are taught to be scared of apostates, DF and even inactive people so they can protect their BS doctrines and their $$ income.
i'd like to ask if you recall certain things you were forced to avoid or throw out because they were supposedly demonic, or connected with the occult, or even just plain bad.. i remember we were told to avoid the harry potter movies and books, because he is a magician.
also acdc music.. lol.. .
and oh yeah, during a talk an elder specifically mentioned the show "married with children", because it was a bad example of how a family should behave.
Easter eggs after easter that arent broken first. Eating them before or during easter is a terrible sin.
Poor JW kids not allowed to eat the evil cake when kids bring a birthday cake to school. Some parents brought cupcakes to put in the freezer in the school office for such occasions. WTF?... Whats the friggin difference?
Almost anything fantasy.
The dog foods the dubs suspected of having blood in. (In Australia at the moment its PAL) In the meantime the cat is in the backyard killing birds and licking up their blood.
Shops having a birthday sale. Shops having an anniversary sale ok though, make sure you eat some cake too, anniversary candles arent from demons only birthday candles.
Groups of singles hanging out together without a spiritual married couple to supervise.
Playing with worldly kids after school.
After school sports.
Using the words crap and hell.
Any soapie (too addictive)
Skirts above the knee.
Hitting the theme parks after the DC.
The simpsons.
Donating to charities
Going in free draws/competitions.
Shopping in op shops owned by churches.
Talking to the school counsellor about problems. (We have the elders who truly care about us)
And all of the above posts.
Basically trying to have any CONTROL over your own life.
discuss.........
20 minutes?
just wondering.
i'm going out in the morning, but i'm wondering who else here in undercover apostate land will be meeting up with their own respective groups for theocratic activity tomorrow.
for those of you going, will you be preparing your presentations tonight?.
Its been 2 wonderful years of no field circus.
And Sundays are awesome because I know all them suckers are sitting thru a mind numbing 2 hrs of shite, while I sleep in and go to the beach for a BBQ.
i was cleaning my bookshelf earlier this week and got rid of all the wts magazines.
as for the books i haven't decided yet.
what about you?.
Very little to keep up appearances. The rest went on the fire page by therapeutic page!
i did for a year.
i falsified reports, had fake rv's, told groups i was meeting up with other groups and went home just to show a presense.
i wasn't fading though, because of my situation i had to play like everything was fine.
Hell NO!! I faded as a believer.
Then found out TTATT.
i see very little except that priests wear black..
Tolerance and education