Posts by Prisila

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May have to DA

by jaded in

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i know this is a subject that has been discussed at length on this board.

until now i went along with "not playing their game" and not daing.

now after bill bowen has been disfellowshipped i am feeling embarrassed and ashamed to ever have been associated with this unloving, hypocritical, corrupt organization.

Prisila

Let's have a "coming out party" of a sort. Let's all get together on a date and DA. Just a thought, maybe i was thinking out loud.

I want nothing to do with this organization. They will always have power over us if we feed into this game. Pretend to not get DF'd or to speak to relatives. Am i being too hasty? I am ready to give up my mother (because she''l never speak to me again) for my freedom.

I WANT OUT!!! Problem is my husband is out as well, but he doesn't want to make it "official." He says he won't go down like that. What are we to do? If I DA and he doesn't then it looks bad. He will be the poor brother with that Jezabel-like, Bitchy wife. OOOOhhhhh por guy. I'll look worse than now. As it is, the elders belief that it was my doing to make him step down as an elder. I am the eveil ONE.

Why do I even bother to care what they think???? HELP!!!!

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What would you do if religion collapsed?

by Prisila in

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at this point in my life i feel very confident that leaving the jws was the best thing for me.

however, 25 years of brainwashing goes a long way.

(for arguments sake) if religion collapsed today, would you feel you made a mistake in leaving the wbts?

Prisila

At this point in my life I feel very confident that leaving the JWs was the best thing for me. However, 25 years of brainwashing goes a long way. (For arguments sake) If religion collapsed today, would you feel you made a mistake in leaving the WBTS? I think I might be confused and I might be tempted to go back.

I am always being told that if something happens to my daughters or husband I'll run back . . . I seriously doubt it. Even if I get sick the last thing i want is to be visited by people in the congregation.

So be honest . . . would you doubt yourself if religion collapsed today? BE HONEST!!!!!

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Ay alguien de la congregación español?

by Prisila in

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sorry for being rude, i will post english translation afterwards.. quisiera saber si ay alguien que antes perteneca a la congregacin espaol.

estn en la rea del sur de california?

hay que juntarnos, conocernos e intercambiar historias.

Prisila

Muchas gracias a todos por responder. Ya fui al chat de Yahoo pero parece que fui la primera.

Mandenme email si gustan, prometo responder. Espero crear nuevas amistades. Saludos.

Thank you very much for responding. I went to the Yahoo chat and it seems like I was the first. Send me emails, if you'd like, I promise to respond, I look forward to creating new friendships. Cheers.

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WERE YOU CONSIDERED A GOOD EXAMPLE?

by minimus in

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have you ever had to deal with the thought that you really weren't that good of an example?

perhaps, the congregation was encouraged to pioneer or reach out for bethel service or go to seldom worked territory, etc.

and when you applied, you were told that you didn't qualify.

Prisila

Interviews and parts in assembly

Regular pioneer at age 15

Married a regular pioneer

Husband was elder very young

Was always interviewed for child/youth assembly

Was ALWAYS on-call for school in case anyone didn't show up for their part

Was used for the "how to's" in kingdom ministry

Was used for the 1st presentation on how to ask for voluntary donations

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Ay alguien de la congregación español?

by Prisila in

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sorry for being rude, i will post english translation afterwards.. quisiera saber si ay alguien que antes perteneca a la congregacin espaol.

estn en la rea del sur de california?

hay que juntarnos, conocernos e intercambiar historias.

Prisila

Sorry for being rude, I will post English Translation afterwards.

Quisiera saber si ay alguien que antes perteneca a la congregacin espaol. Estn en la rea del sur de California? Hay que juntarnos, conocernos e intercambiar historias. Ponga in anuncio aqu por favor. Gracias!

I'd like to know if anyone here use to belong to the Spanish congregation. Are you in Southern california? Let's get together, get to know each other, and exchange stories. Please post here. Thank you!

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Witnesses Just Want To Have Fun!

by Englishman in

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there are hundreds and hundreds of permitted extra-curricular activities for jw's to enjoy.

activities that have nothing to do with religion or worship where jw's can really have a ball!.

so, for all of you people who sometimes wonder if you should perhaps go back, lets all list the permitted fun things that any witness can do in his / her spare time.. i'll get the ball rolling:.

Prisila

We had a blast! (REALLY). We would get together every Saturday after the meeting, do a potluck and then dance the night away (Salsa, Merengue, Cumbia, Rock, House). It was a blast!!! We did that every Saturday night and Sunday until wee hours of the next day. For about 5 months straight! Most were MS some elders but then we stopped waking up on tome for Sunday preaching and out the door our fun went. We had a Special Necessities meeting. It was all abruptly ended. I miss those days. We also used to go clubbing to downtown . That was a little frowned upon be huge groups of us use to go. Not much elders could do.

At social events we'd play guys vs. gal charades from my book of Bible stories. Or hot potato whoever was left with the potato when music stopped was completely humiliated.

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH . . . those were the good old days. Now everyone hates me and can't even stand to look at me.

Edited by - prisila on 25 July 2002 19:30:15

Edited by - prisila on 25 July 2002 19:30:39

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Can owning/reading apostate material get me DF'ed?

by PandaJ in

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hello, first time poster, long time reader.. i was wondering just what my title asks.

if i own/read/admit to apostate material, can that get me df'ed?.

i know better then to admit that i believe the apostate material to the elders, or that i disagree with the society's teachings, but will simply admitting to owning and reading them get me df'ed?.

Prisila

Hi Panda!

Seems like we ALL have a lot in common. I feel your pain. I KNOW how horrible the torture and agony is of being in the middle. You can NEVER really just ride the fence. You are either evil or good . . . NO IN BETWEEN! My pain is horrific and unbearable and ONLY another ex or present fading JW understands. It is not fair to put someone in this position. Especially, when your parents and family should love you unconditionally. I can't take this horrible pain anymore! I have decided to live my life. My family members have chosen theirs. Am I not entitled to live the life I want? Easier said than done.

Abrother2 gave me the most beautiful quote:

It went something like this - "I'd rather have have my own mind, than answers I can't question and questions I can't ask."

Panda I feel you pain . . .I need a hug!!!! ;(

Edited by - prisila on 20 July 2002 5:7:31

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I blew off a 25 min. service meeting part tonite

by Leander in

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i told the presiding overseer that i'd probably be late getting home from work.

but i actually spent my time driving around and enjoying the spring weather.. in other news i'll be going in for a job interview tomorrow within the company.

i'm really hoping i land this job, because as soon as i can secure a new position (my old one is being phased out) i'll be exiting the stage of the jw comedy of errors.. .

Prisila

I am sooooo proud of you, I hope your wife jumps on the ban-wagon soon! I'm going through the same. I haven't attended a meeting in the last week and a half. YIPEE for me!!!

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Continued . . . My husband is stepping down -elder

by Prisila in

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over a week ago i shared that my husband was stepping down as an elder last wednesday.. well, for all those inquiring minds that want to know, my husband's efforts were a total bust.

first he talked to one elder who adamantly refused to accept his resignation.

he encouraged and demanded that he stay.

Prisila

Thank you all so far for the responses, we REALLY do appreciate them!

PUREHEART-Why do you say I am not being sincere?

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Continued . . . My husband is stepping down -elder

by Prisila in

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over a week ago i shared that my husband was stepping down as an elder last wednesday.. well, for all those inquiring minds that want to know, my husband's efforts were a total bust.

first he talked to one elder who adamantly refused to accept his resignation.

he encouraged and demanded that he stay.

Prisila

Over a week ago I shared that my husband was stepping down as an elder last Wednesday.

Well, for all those inquiring minds that want to know, my husband's efforts were a TOTAL bust.

First he talked to one elder who adamantly refused to accept his resignation. He encouraged and demanded that he stay. My husband tried all kinds of advice that you lovely people gave . . .
That I needed spiritual attention as his wife, so they assigned me a pioneer. That he was depressed so the elders plan to meet with us now. They came to no real agreement on the resignation.

So my husband had an elder's meeting the following meeting. What happened? Well, they were very "loving" and "understanding." So they have allowed him to continue being an elder but removed all the responsibility of any obligation. No talks, no service hour quotas, he can miss meetings including elder's meetings, he can basically do whatever he wants. But he doesn't want to be an elder and he still is.

When we read some of your posts, we thought many were exaggerating about not being able to resign. However, we have realized it's VERY TRUE! The cong. we belong to has 8 elders I don't understand what the big deal is with letting one go.

I think we should start fading. But I believe we are being watched now. We would call too much attention. I can already see some of the others with "privileges" getting green with envy at husband for "kicking back."

We have the C/O visit this month. My husband intends on being forthright with the guy. This guy will NOT beat around the bush. My husband thins he should tell him that he has read the COC book I think this will get us DA'd. I'm really nervous about this whole thing. I think we should just fade; now regardless that he's still an elder.

We need advice . . . HELP!