i'm still determined not to vote - just to write something unpleasant about pollies on the ballot paper.
if i lived in victoria, i just may, as an act of sheer bastardry, vote for julian assange (of wikileaks fame), but i don't live in vic, so i cant.. my objection to voting is that the political choice offers two self-perpetuating oligarchies (who are something like the governing body).
they make up a slate of candidates and election advertising consists of attempting to persuade swinging voters to vote for their slate of candidates.. anyway, i noted that k.rudd has made a video in chinese, aimed apparently at mainland china.
Jeffro:
He then decided I must be Sri Lankan. It's not much of a 'debate' against his brand of 'logic'.
m P:
It was a cheapo shot, because you have not once attempted to tell us why Afghans refugees decided to come after 2009 and not before. You are completely fixed on the SL problem which shows you have a bias of some sort. I asked the q and you cant answer, why dont you just reply and confirm you have no personal issues in this ?
i'm still determined not to vote - just to write something unpleasant about pollies on the ballot paper.
if i lived in victoria, i just may, as an act of sheer bastardry, vote for julian assange (of wikileaks fame), but i don't live in vic, so i cant.. my objection to voting is that the political choice offers two self-perpetuating oligarchies (who are something like the governing body).
they make up a slate of candidates and election advertising consists of attempting to persuade swinging voters to vote for their slate of candidates.. anyway, i noted that k.rudd has made a video in chinese, aimed apparently at mainland china.
jeffro:
Not really. I'm a realist, and mP certainly isn't a humanist. I correctly stated that international factors independent from Australian immigration policy affected the number of refugees in 2009 and mP misdirected focus to the alleged motives of refugees.
mP:
I am a humanist. im honest first and foremost, somethng the world needs more than liars. The people coming to Australia if they feared their lives could have stopped at multiple places along the way. You completely ignore this point, is that honest ? There is safety in nearly all those places. Those countries are not as good as Australia but they are relatively safe. The proof is 1/4 of the world lives in those places.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
Jeffro:
That seems fairly obvious. But governments benefit too much from multinational companies in the fossil-fuel business, and when some try, their efforts are made out to be unpopular or ineffectual.
mP:
the sad thing is they did more about cfc than they have done against climate change. Lots of new business opportunities occured after that, lots of people bought new fridges etc.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
Jeffro:
(Efforts to address climate change in Australia have been attacked by conservative politicians, the media and mining companies.)
mP:
There have been almost no efforts, just taxes. They did try with the batts and solar panels initiatives but they are minor efforts. Climate change is a new way to lie to the public to increase taxation.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
A bit like xians who claim scholars believe in jesus and everything said in the bible and then you find out they dont actually believe in the miracles or resurrection but that a man a preacher may have existed. Two quite different things.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
jeffro:
Nobody knows the facts etc.
That's a convenient thing people say when they disagree with or don't understand the facts that are known by climate scientists worldwide. See cofty's chart above.
MP:
You are right i should qualified my statement. By Nobody i was referring to the general public parrots. Most people in the public just dont know the facts.
Where did cofty get that chart from ? I would be interested in reading the remaining material. Anyone can draw a chart and attach a title, not that im claiming cofty would, but it would be great to see what they said "exactly". Stuff like what the causes or problem is according to them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
jgnat:
Sure i was overgeneralizing , but for example during ww2 when there were shortages, governments had to take drastic measures to help the war effort. If global warming of cooling or whatever was that big a problem, then surely one must expect equally big actions from gov.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
@jeffro:
And thats the beauty of the sham.
Its a bit like the historical jesus, next to nobody knows any facts on the matter but they all assume. Nobody knows who declared global warming or cooling is a fact. Nobody knows the facts etc.
i think that in our various discussions about life after the wt, we many times forget about the cornerstone of christian life - the resurrection.
the implications of the existence a man who holds the power of life and death is manifold.
it makes discussions about the existence of god obsolete.. for all of scientists' accomplishments they have never been able to make even one amobea come alive from non-life.
Rawe:
While reading is interesting, you can use any online bible and simply scan for words we associate with jesus within the letters of Paul. Stuff like nazareth, the names of the apostles, place names, characters jesus met and more.
I know most scholars say half the letters are forgeries, but in this case it doesnt matter. It shows all authors didnt know the Jesus character of the gospels.
Scan for Nazareth in the entire Bible and its interesting where it appears as well as were it doesnt. The same is true for jesus himself. There is no jesus in the OT, why the secret ? Satan is absent from all of Genesis and most of the OT. The snake is not Satan, the snake is a talking snake.
The simple truth is all these stories are not coherant, but the process of presenting it as one text is a much later invention.
i'm still determined not to vote - just to write something unpleasant about pollies on the ballot paper.
if i lived in victoria, i just may, as an act of sheer bastardry, vote for julian assange (of wikileaks fame), but i don't live in vic, so i cant.. my objection to voting is that the political choice offers two self-perpetuating oligarchies (who are something like the governing body).
they make up a slate of candidates and election advertising consists of attempting to persuade swinging voters to vote for their slate of candidates.. anyway, i noted that k.rudd has made a video in chinese, aimed apparently at mainland china.
barry:
In all of this we are missing something. What about people in great distress that don't have $10,000 to pay a people smuggler. $10,000 is a lot of money in a poor country and very few people could pay that much. Let me ask you all what is the annual income in Afganistan? Do you know its only $100 per year and how many years would it take for the average person to save that much if they were to save 100% of their income.
mP:
ive made this same q in other similar threads. How does a poor afghan who earns at most $500 a year manage to say tens of thousnads of dollars for this trip. Thats the eqivalent of us spending $5 million to catch a boat to SL as a refugee.
One has to wonder how they got that money.
