Jeffro:
Who cares what you prefer?! You can barely go a sentence without showing yourself to be an insulting arrogant fool.
mP:
here we go again, with a reply completely filled with hatred and insults and nothing worthwhile.
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236Recent Global Cooling Controversy
by metatron inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
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Recent Global Cooling Controversy
by metatron inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
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besty:
The graph just a few responses above quite clearly shows it was hotter 10k -3k years ago and then another rise about 1000 years ago.
Dont tell me about grreenhouses gases address this.
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Recent Global Cooling Controversy
by metatron inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
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mP
So why is it different this time round ? Lets hear it for everyone else in a few words.
I prefer text because its easy to read and quote, videos are a bit harder and not quite as easy to quote.
Surely a wizard like yourself can type a paragraph. I wnt you to type the text here, so i can reply here in writing.
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Recent Global Cooling Controversy
by metatron inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
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Jeffro:
Yet again another post filled with insults. At best y9ou have made one attempt at actually linking to something worth looking at, the remainder of your replies are garbage. And yes i did write that up, then i thought i wont lower myself to your three brain cell level.
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Recent Global Cooling Controversy
by metatron inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
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jeffro:
Back on topic, mP trawls out the usual attempts to simplify climate change. He clearly did not watch - or did not understand - the video I posted early in this thread
mP:
Good thing you can never talk specifics, its always bland sweeping statements.
I asked about the changing temps over the past 5000 years, but you skipped that. I asked for examples of real change from gov and you gave garbage collection in sweden was one of two that you could find. You made assumptions about germany's solar and wind program and completely ignored the fact they changed for strategic reasons which i went into limited detail.
I havent simplified climate change. i have expanded the discussed. Your the one who simplifies because the best you can do is focus on one thing. When i ask simple q you run away.
When are you going to address those replies, or have the kids that do your home work at school gone to toilet again ?
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Recent Global Cooling Controversy
by metatron inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
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mP
I would like to remind you that in the 1970s scientists also told us we were entering a time of global cooling. I guess some cant decide. These same scientsts referred to the same graphs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere culminating in a period of extensiveglaciation. This hypothesis had little support in the scientific community, but gained temporary popular attention due to a combination of a slight downward trend of temperatures from the 1940s to the early 1970s and press reports that did not accurately reflect the full scope of the scientific climate literature,
Even the same press reported it to some extent. Its not a one day story from one pseudo scientist. It had some backing. Im not claiming all but it had enough to be reasonably popular. Again popularity in the media is not proof of anything.
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Recent Global Cooling Controversy
by metatron inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
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besty;
@mP
I did reference the graphs clearly the first time I asked - you managed to ignore my question several times.
mP:
Hey, lets be fair, i have tried to respond to most q direct at me, here prolly more than anyone else.
MP: Its been happening since the beginning of time.
Besty:
Would that be fair?
mP:
Im trying to stay above silly name calling but i have referenced a graph i posted in this thread sevearl times.
What about this ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_temperature_record
Look at the last 10000 years. There are plenty of temps above and below today. These changes happened without factories and cars. Please tell me whats the difference between them and today.
Nothing is constant in nature, this is yet another example.
Like i said before, if you look at selected samples you can paint a picture but if you take a step back its not quite that amazing. Just look a Brinjen she insisted the last 3 years were the hottest, i disagreed, and then this was confirmed by an article from the BOM. Im not blaming BJ, im just saying theres a lot of poor journalism thats very low on facts and often distorted.
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What's in it for them? (GB)
by SyntaxError1974 inif the wbts is just another business?
then what do the gb get out of all this?.
tim cook (ceo apple) makes around 378 million a year.. donald trump makes around 60 million a year.. i understand the wbts may have vast property holdings, stocks, bonds, and revenue from donations.. but i can't grasp the incentive for the gb to make this stuff up.
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sspo:
We can compare them to the Pope in Rome
mP:
The pope does very well for himself. he has several mansiions or castles, helicopters and more.
Look at one, its a palace and castle. I wouldnt call that insignificant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_Palace_of_Castel_Gandolfo
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Recent Global Cooling Controversy
by metatron inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.
climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.
however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!
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mP
MP->besty:
bohm does not know how to read, so bohm does its best, making claims that the figures dont support, and reverting to the name calling of little kids.
Betsy:
Are the grey boxes trending above or below the line as time progresses? Above/below/can't tell - your answer pls
mP:
Well to communicate effectively you need to state which graph your referring too. They are trending in most, but thats not what Bohm or Brinjen claimed. Im an exact person and if you look at what i have said, i read the text for what it says exactly. My comments reflect that.
If we go back a few hundred of thousand years, the same averages are also jumping about. So what do you make of that ???
Back on recent comments i made about reading the bom article about the last 100 years of averages.
IF the text says 5th hottest, then i need to know 5th out of what. Knowing the size makes all the difference. As i state, being 5th hottest when there are only 5 samples is not impressive. If we look at the graphs just on this page, then the 2000s are only 5th hottest out of 10, which is again just above average.
Whats impressive about being 5th hottest out of 10 ?
Im not speaking in riddles, im attempting to read exactly what the graph says and not inventing whatever the television tells me. I wouldnt trust a tv personality for medical advice about cancer, or this or that, because most of them are idiots who just read prompts. They make unsubstanitated claims about other matters all the time. I can read and i am trying to see the numbers myself. These same idiots host shows talent shows and tell us every new performer is the most talented ever and then next week they are superceeded by yet another best ever.
Betsy:
Are the grey boxes getting bigger or smaller? Bigger/Smaller/Can't tell - your answer pls
mP;
Yes theres a slight increase in the last 100 years. Then again the graph has been jumping about for thoustands of years.
You know very well im looking at the numbers instead of like a brain dead zombie who accepts everything demanded or lectured to me. They are getting bigger in some graphs in others they are not. If we look back a 100 or 1000 years we also see fluctuations. Its been happening since the beginning of time. Its also too easy to think we know how everything works and claim its CO2 and its man made. Like i showed BOHM a few posts back, it was warmer many times just a few houtsand years ago and we didnt have man and we didnt have factories. Im not saying i know or have all the answers, but only a fool thinks they know everything.
Lets hope Bohm will address this last issue rather than repeating the same standard response, which is getting tired and requires no effort or thought.
Claiming its the end of the world and we are going to drown because of man made co2 is just too easy. I originally said, governments have done next to nothing to combat CC and i stand by that. I have yet to see any dramatic change in any policy relating to consumption of fossil fuels. We are using plastics and petrol at record rates. None of this has changed. Its been 10 years thats a lot of time, something could have happened, if there was a will.
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What's in it for them? (GB)
by SyntaxError1974 inif the wbts is just another business?
then what do the gb get out of all this?.
tim cook (ceo apple) makes around 378 million a year.. donald trump makes around 60 million a year.. i understand the wbts may have vast property holdings, stocks, bonds, and revenue from donations.. but i can't grasp the incentive for the gb to make this stuff up.
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mP
Syntax:
Not everybody can be head of a super large company like Apple. Other leadership types have to settle for a religion. Interestingly in Ancient Hebrew there was no word for religion. Religion and government were the same concept and filled the same role in society. The same is true of Ancient Rome. Julius Caesar was Pontifex Maximus which also happens to the origin of the same title held by the Pope. All kings are head of their respective church. The same is true today, just look at the Church of England, the Catholic Church etc.
