Posts by mP

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The Bible designed to stagnate people and ruin lives

by WTWizard in

and i mean the whole bible, from start to finish.. first, the fear factor.

many that are deeply into the bible are afraid that, if they quit or disagree with it, they are going to suffer forever (destruction or hell).

they are also promised a major reward (life on earth forever, or heaven) if they obey.

mP

@tec

show me a reference from a contemporary of jesus outside the bible.

regarding revelation, show where jesus is identified, scriptures and explain why michael the archangel and all the titles are used, why nlt keep it simple and simply use jesus?

you cant say because the parrables are well written that is historical proof of jesus. read the gospels found in the nag hammadi scrolls, many of the gospel messages are also in there. the problem is these texts were wriitten many years even one hundred before jesus was born.

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Jesus Vs Horus

by Christ Alone in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apmy1f9_d3m&feature=related.

mP

@christalone

just because many died for their beliefs does not make them true, it only shows they believed. many moslems have happily died in suicidal attacks in this century, yet none of us use that as proof of allah. judging the faith of any martyrs has nothing to do with faith, given their little education and almost no access to written material one must also ask what they knew. xians in the past were very different, though there may be shared elements we would be shocked if made aware of the differences.

@tec

give your research, can you state the proofs that jesus even existed ? can you explain the solar symbology that is used when describing christ ? have you rad the story of krishna, the indian guy with the same name? let me tell you thats not the only coincidence between krishna and/christ.l

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do the gb go street witnessing ?

by mP in

im just wondering when was the last time a gb went out to preach ?.

mP

im just wondering when was the last time a gb went out to preach ?

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Someone has a list of scholars who believe in Jesus as a real person in history?

by TJ Curioso in

when we say that most scholars believe in jesus as a real person, ask for real credentials.

who are these?.

someone has a list of those?.

mP

@mindblown

there are only four contemporary non gospel accounts that mention jesus. none mention any of the events from his ministry. the josphus commentry is believec to be a later fraidulent insertion. at best those quotes hardly tell the story of jesus. for being the greatest story on earth one would expect much more to be mentioned in roman, jewish writings. there are lots of nobodies mentioned in the talmud that lived at the same time, but no jesus.

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At the Assembly... Did you catch that talk about encouraging young ones to pursue a career in the ministry? ...and what about that 'murmuring'

by garyneal in

yes, i heard that talk where apparently (in my wife's circuit that is) there are 5 times as many pioneers over 50 or 60 than there are amongst the younger people.

there was also 3 or 4 times as many elders and ms's amongst the elderly than there are amongst young people.

the message, parents, friends, encourage your young ones to pursue an education and a career in the ministry.

mP

what criminals, ruining peoples lives so they can make a few dollars a week from publication profits. how much profit does wts make from a pioneer in a year ?

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The Bible designed to stagnate people and ruin lives

by WTWizard in

and i mean the whole bible, from start to finish.. first, the fear factor.

many that are deeply into the bible are afraid that, if they quit or disagree with it, they are going to suffer forever (destruction or hell).

they are also promised a major reward (life on earth forever, or heaven) if they obey.

mP

@tec

the fact is you only know jesus from what appears in the gospels, john and the synoptics. given the synlptics are basicallybrevised copies of some source that means for all jesus greatness we have only two sources. the earthquake, darkness, zombies in matthew are not recirded by anyone anywhere in the roman world. how exactly does one explain jesus being unknown to the romans and jews? how does one explain paul never mentioning a single detail of jesus life and mninistry? does the name jesus even appear in revelation? does johnof revleation fame know anything about jesus ministry ?

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The Bible designed to stagnate people and ruin lives

by WTWizard in

and i mean the whole bible, from start to finish.. first, the fear factor.

many that are deeply into the bible are afraid that, if they quit or disagree with it, they are going to suffer forever (destruction or hell).

they are also promised a major reward (life on earth forever, or heaven) if they obey.

mP

@tec

regarding timothys quote aboutball'scriptures being inspired, well ihave no way of knowing what is true or false simoly because i was not there. none of us were. if we eliminate say leviticus, how do we judge which parts of matthew are true and which were edits during the last two thousand years? how do we judge if jesus really went to the temple at age 12 ? why does matthew copy all of mark and then add a ressurrection? if matthew was there why copy anything at all from mark, why isnt all the narrative his own writing. im sorry the synoptics demonstaprate an evolution in theology where jesus starts as a man and becomes a god in john.

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The Bible designed to stagnate people and ruin lives

by WTWizard in

and i mean the whole bible, from start to finish.. first, the fear factor.

many that are deeply into the bible are afraid that, if they quit or disagree with it, they are going to suffer forever (destruction or hell).

they are also promised a major reward (life on earth forever, or heaven) if they obey.

mP

@Tec

i believe you missed my point about ruth. im not denying there is a story about caring but theres also a story of a women being sold like a piece of meat. nobody today needs to be told tomread that story and learn from it. surely we csn do better, and write up our own better kinder good story.

if there was a god, god would be an extraordinary being with immense intellect. he wouldnt be influenced by the local customs of some jews thousands of yesrs ago. he wouldnt love everyone and yet say women are just meat to buy, sell and rape. ylu are disgarcing and insulting any real god to say he would have done such a poor job in assembling his thoughts for mankind.

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The Bible designed to stagnate people and ruin lives

by WTWizard in

and i mean the whole bible, from start to finish.. first, the fear factor.

many that are deeply into the bible are afraid that, if they quit or disagree with it, they are going to suffer forever (destruction or hell).

they are also promised a major reward (life on earth forever, or heaven) if they obey.

mP

@tec

im sorry jesus teachings and lessons cannot be true as they are mostly advices. they can be good, worthwhile or bad but never true or fakse. those lessons as presented are not facts but parables and commentaries.

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The Bible designed to stagnate people and ruin lives

by WTWizard in

and i mean the whole bible, from start to finish.. first, the fear factor.

many that are deeply into the bible are afraid that, if they quit or disagree with it, they are going to suffer forever (destruction or hell).

they are also promised a major reward (life on earth forever, or heaven) if they obey.

mP

no im not dishonest about picking scriptures. the bible is presented in its entirety as the word of god. examining and find problems are a test it should pass with flying colours. if there was a god, he would expect us not to accept a second fraud with contradictions, mistakes, lies, fabrications and laws that are obviously inserted by vile men.

firstly if you believe in christ, then you shoukd ask and be able to answer wyy did jesus bother and respect the ot as gods law? why was he not angry or did not mention the ot was a fraud and blasphemy. the fact is his actions, respect for traditions like the passover, circumcision, sabbath show he was very much a jew who accepted and bekieved.

regarding ruth, please dont start teling me about ancient customs, i know enuff about some of their many superstituions and similar nonsense. those books are presented as gods word for us to learn from it, not an exercise in watching some barbarians. no one should waste their time listening to those for morality or godly advice.

after all that fraud in ot, gospels and other nt books, how do jnow what is real and what is myth or political propoganda? the jesus story is a fraud like everything else in religion. there is no historical proof for jesus outside the bible. matthew is an established liar, mark makes the basic geogrpahic mistakes and has no resurrection or ascension. luke is also riddled with errors, while john seems to be teling quite a dufferent stiry from the synootic gospeks. then we have the curious case of paul not mentioning a single fact about jesus ministry except he is our lord who died for us. does paul really nknmow jesus, he doesnt emention nazareth, mary, any of the apostles, how or where jesus ministered or died?