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  Impact of climate change may be underestimated - Article worth reading

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  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-26/scientists-may-have-underestimated-climate-change/3913288.

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  You have completely ignored the fact that volcanos spew out other gasses that affect the environment. Volcanos spew out vast amounts of sulfur etc, to think that only carbon affects the weather and environment is shallow.

  Take a look at this year and the previous, Europe had record winters, and we in the southern hemisphere didnt have a summer at all. There were almost no days in the mid 30's C, when in past years we would always have 30s in January. Does that really sound like global warming ?

  I cant help but wonder if yor business interests have led you to believe the hype for personal benefit. Do yo believe because its good business ?
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  Impact of climate change may be underestimated - Article worth reading

  by cantleave in

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  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-26/scientists-may-have-underestimated-climate-change/3913288.

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  Sweet:

  Also not true. Why are you spreading counter-knowledge and misinformation? It's not hard to get the facts.

  Volcanic versus anthropogenic CO 2 emissions

  Do the Earth’s volcanoes emit more CO 2 than human activities? Research findings indicate that the answer to this frequently asked question is a clear and unequivocal, “No.” Human activities, responsible for a projected 35 billion metric tons (gigatons) of CO 2 emissions in 2010 (Friedlingstein et al., 2010), release an amount of CO 2 that dwarfs the annual CO 2 emissions of all the world’s degassing subaerial and submarine volcanoes (Gerlach, 2011).

  The published estimates of the global CO 2 emission rate for all degassing subaerial (on land) and submarine volcanoes lie in a range from 0.13 gigaton to 0.44 gigaton per year (Gerlach, 1991; Varekamp et al., 1992; Allard, 1992; Sano and Williams, 1996; Marty and Tolstikhin, 1998). The preferred global estimates of the authors of these studies range from about 0.15 to 0.26 gigaton per year. The 35-gigaton projected anthropogenic CO 2 emission for 2010 is about 80 to 270 times larger than the respective maximum and minimum annual global volcanic CO 2 emission estimates. It is 135 times larger than the highest preferred global volcanic CO 2 estimate of 0.26 gigaton per year (Marty and Tolstikhin, 1998).

  In recent times, about 70 volcanoes are normally active each year on the Earth’s subaerial terrain. One of these is Kilauea volcano in Hawaii, which has an annual baseline CO 2 output of about 0.0031 gigatons per year [Gerlach et al., 2002]. It would take a huge addition of volcanoes to the subaerial landscape—the equivalent of an extra 11,200 Kilauea volcanoes—to scale up the global volcanic CO 2 emission rate to the anthropogenic CO 2 emission rate. Similarly, scaling up the volcanic rate to the current anthropogenic rate by adding more submarine volcanoes would require an addition of about 360 more mid-ocean ridge systems to the sea floor, based on mid-ocean ridge CO 2 estimates of Marty and Tolstikhin (1998).

  MP

  Strange wiki says 30B and your scientist says 35B tonnes of CO, while he says 130M to 440M tonnes from volcanos. Theres quite a difference between 0.13 to 0.44 by a factor of 3.5 and your quotes are off by almost 15% from my source in wiki.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions

  Rank	Country	Annual CO2 emissions [7] [8] (in thousands of metric tonnes)	Percentage of global total
  	World	29,888,121	100%
  1	China [9]	7,031,916	23.33%
  2	United States	5,461,014	18.11%
  -	European Union (27)	4,177,817 [10]

  14.04%

  It doesnt take a genius to see that one in Iceland sent an ash cloud that covered from Iceland all the way across siberia, amounts to a very large number of ommitted mass and gasses. Are we too bleieve that almost no bad gasses that affect the climate made their way out ?

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_eruptions_of_Eyjafjallaj%C3%B6kull

  The grounding of European flights avoided about 344 × 10 6 kg of CO 2 emissions per day, while the volcano emitted about 150 × 10 6 kg of CO 2 per day. [1]

  What about the other gasses ? Here in Iceland we have one lousy volcano almost the equivalent of all planes in Europe. As we know there are lots of volcanos around the earth, while not errupting they do on occassion errupt giving enormous amounts of matter. Carbon is not the only thing released by them. that affects the weather.

  JKust look at Krakatoa, in one erruption global temperatures dropped 1.2 degrees, that change completely shames mans industrial revolution impact!

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_eruption_of_Krakatoa

  Global climate

  In the year following the eruption, average global temperatures fell by as much as 1.2 °C (2.2 °F) . Weather patterns continued to be chaotic for years, and temperatures did not return to normal until 1888. The eruption injected an unusually large amount ofsulfur dioxide (SO 2 ) gas high into the stratosphere which was subsequently transported by high-level winds all over the planet. This led to a global increase in sulfurous acid (H 2 SO 3 ) concentration in high-level cirrus clouds. The resulting increase in cloudreflectivity (or albedo) would reflect more incoming light from the sun than usual, and cool the entire planet until the suspended sulfur fell to the ground as acid precipitation. [10]

  Now thats power, sorry puny humans dont impact the world in the same way quite as dramatically. WHile i do hate pollution, one shouldnt lie about global warming. The world has been warming on the same trend much before the industrial age.
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  Impact of climate change may be underestimated - Article worth reading

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  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-26/scientists-may-have-underestimated-climate-change/3913288.

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  Sweet:

  The projects that you mention the gov spending money are token. Government is often involved in many token nonsense projects to justify some operation, but in the end its always about money, case in point Speed Cameras. Tey arent about saving lives or stopping speeding they are a money grab.

  @Tales

  So, the Earth cooled *coincidentally* as up to 50% of the human population was wiped out by plague over several centuries, which reduced the output of CO2 that had been steadily increasing over thousands of years.

  TooTired:

  The statement "up to 50% of the human population was wiped out by plague over several centuries" doesn't add up. The black plague mostly was confined to Europe which never has held the majority of earths population. Sorry but that argument just doesn't hold water.

  MP

  Are we to truely believe our impact in contributing carbon is anywhere equivalent to the amount that was reduced when your black deaths killed all those people ? Of course not, anyone can see for themselves our foot print is significantly larger. Did wiping out 30 million in the 1300-1500 really reduce temperature by the same amount that 600m in Europe in the 1900 added ? Does that make any sense, how could 30m dying take away as much as 600m today add ?
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  Armageddon is coming ... for the WTS

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  is it just me or are we seeing the armageddon or the end of the wts ?

  they seem to be reducing the size and publising of the a!

  mags something that must shock many believers.

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  Is it just me or are we seeing the Armageddon or the end of the WTS ? They seem to be reducing the size and publising of the A! and W! mags something that must shock many believers. The growths they so boldly spoke about just a dozen years ago have stagnated and their prophecies have failed. Its hard too see anyone in modern western countries being drawn to them, they probably will only get new members from the poor and uneducated.

  We all know they have never found a single prophecy encoded in the Bible to come true, but i think fnially we may have a winner for them. They said that the system will end, and false religion will be exposed. Unfortunately for the WTS they are the ones who are dying and they are the center of false religion. Is this prediction actually going to come true, with the start of their downfall being the turn of the millenium ?
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  Impact on the receiving end of "What the Bible Really Teaches"

  by kepler in

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  several years ago my fiance had a traumatic experience and decided to return to being a jw.. .

  as a result she insisted that we read "what the bible really teaches".

  then later i agreed to take instruction with house visits by an elder and his associates on weekends with the same purpose.. .

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  @kepler

  there is no prophecy in the Bible. The Bible has been edited many times. The apparent prophecies in the OT were written after the fact. No where does the BIble plainly state this will happen in the future, the only reason we have xians seeing prophecies is simply because of how they interrupt some text. They find some text and then redefine certain key words to mean other things.

  The classic prophecy that even Matthew claims is in the Bible is that Jesus will be born of a virgin. The text actually says the Messiah will be born of a young woman. The other classic twisting made by Matthew is that Jesus was prophecised to be born in Bethlehem. If one reads Micah 5:2 it says something quite different it says the Messiah will be born in a tribe of Bethelehem something else and a few verses later he will defeat the Assyrians someting we know jesus never did.
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  Impact on the receiving end of "What the Bible Really Teaches"

  by kepler in

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  several years ago my fiance had a traumatic experience and decided to return to being a jw.. .

  as a result she insisted that we read "what the bible really teaches".

  then later i agreed to take instruction with house visits by an elder and his associates on weekends with the same purpose.. .

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  @kepler

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  The serpent is no where identified as Satan, xians just assume that it is.

  You may not be aware of the fact that in the OT, serpents were the messengers of God, which is why they can speak and why Adam and Eve were not surprised and listened. THey were familiar with snakes flying down from heaven and giving them a messenger from God. Genesis 3 also says the snake would be punished and made to wiggle on the ground or words to that affect. What the snake lost was his wings.

  The problem of the flying snakes is the bible uses the term Seraphim which were just flying firey snakes. I will not explain why snakes were considered great creatures, as thats quite a lengthy discussion but this is a fact found in the OT and NT. Lets not forget Jesus said be wise as serpents, what that actually means or why they thought snakes were smart is posible related to their role as messengers of God. After all God would only entrust his important messengers to capable communicators.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seraphim

  Literally "burning ones", the word seraph is normally a synonym for serpents when used in the Hebrew Bible . A seminal passage in the Book of Isaiah (6.1-8) used the term to describe fiery six-winged beings that fly around God's throne singing "holy, holy, holy". This throne scene, with its triple invocation of holiness (a formula that came to be known as the trisagion ), profoundly influenced subsequent theology , literature and art . Its influence is frequently seen in works depicting angels , heaven and apotheosis . Seraphs are mentioned as celestial beings in an influential Hellenistic work, the Book of Enoch , and the Book of Revelation . Tradition places seraphs in the fifth rank of ten in the Jewish angelic hierarchy and the highest rank in the Christian angelic hierarchy

  We also have the story of the Snake God who Moses used to cure the snake bitten jews. For whatever reason it took 500 years for Josiah to destroy as a idol. Originally the Jews perceived it to be holy and to have magic powers. We of course continue this tradition qwith the Cadaceus. Many other pagan ancients also thought snakes had the same magic powers.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehushtan

  The Israelites set out from Mount Hor , where Aaron was buried, to go to the Red Sea . However they had to detour around the land of Edom (Numbers 20:21, 25). Frustrated and impatient, they complained against Yahweh and Moses (Num. 21:4-5). This is the last of the complaint stories in the Book of Numbers . [7] Just east of Palestine , God plagued them with "fiery serpents" for their mumurs against Him. For the sake of repentant ones, Moses was instructed by God to build a serpent of bronze that was used as an instrument to heal those who looked upon it ( Numbers 21:4-9 ).

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  The Nehushtan (or Nehustan, Hebrew: ?????? or ??? ??????), in the Hebrew Bible, was a sacred object in the form of a snake of brass upon a pole. The priestly source of the Torah says that Moses used a 'fiery serpent' to cure the Israelites fromsnakebites. ( Numbers 21:4-9 )

  King Hezekiah (reigned 715/716 – 687) instituted a religious iconoclastic reform and destroyed "the brazen serpent that Moses had made; for unto those days the children of Israel did offer to it; and it was called Nehushtan." ( 2 Kings 18:4 ) The tradition of naming it Nehushtan is no older than the time of Hezekiah. [1]

  So again we see firey snakes.

  My reading has led me to see snakes as phallic symbols, which is something ancients were obsessed with. We can see the penis and vagina at the center of many ancient symbols and symbology. It has been said the temple of Jerusalem which faces East to meet the Sun represents the very action of sex, with the Sun being the male and the long chamber oriented to receive the male.

  It is probably not a coincidence that the word holy also has a sexual connotation in Hebrew. Most of the harlots in the Bible are not lliterally street walkers , but they were actually sacred prostitute priestesses. This is why their title is mentioned, the fact that Rahab was an important priestess is why she is mentioned along with her title in jesus linage. The story of Hosea marrying a prostitute is of course nothing more than a priest marrying a rival priestess froma different god/godess to unite the two religions. Religon was a business back then just like today, gaining much money from donations, sacrifices and so on.

  We also see Caleb, Joshuas companion actually means in ancient Hebrew male prostitute! now theres something xians dont tell you.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_prostitution

  The Hebrew Bible uses two different words for prostitute, zonah (???)‎ [14] [15] and kedeshah (????)‎. [16] [17] The word zonah simply meant an ordinary prostitute or loose woman. [15] But the word kedeshah literally means "consecrated (feminine form)", from the Semitic root q-d-sh (???)‎ meaning "holy" or "set apart". [16]

  Whatever the cultic significance of a kedeshah to a follower of the Canaanite religion, the Hebrew Bible makes it clear that cultic prostitution had no place in Judaism. Thus Deuteronomy 23:18-19 tells followers:

  None of the daughters of Israel shall be a kedeshah, nor shall any of the sons of Israel be a kadesh.
  You shall not bring the hire of a prostitute (zonah) or the wages of a dog (keleb) into the house of the Lord your God to pay a vow, for both of these are an abomination to the Lord your God.

  The meaning of the male form kadesh or qadesh is not entirely clear. [18] The Hebrew word keleb (dog) in the next line may also signify a male dancer or prostitute, [19]

  Leaves one to wonder how they really worshipped then. HOw is a major character in the exodus given such a "wrong" name.
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  Impact on the receiving end of "What the Bible Really Teaches"

  by kepler in

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  several years ago my fiance had a traumatic experience and decided to return to being a jw.. .

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  then later i agreed to take instruction with house visits by an elder and his associates on weekends with the same purpose.. .

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  Its amazng how the center of the universe is the temple. GOd lets the Romans conquer the world so he can punish the jews for false worship. God lets Babylon conquer the jews for false worship. Everything on earth revolves around this small temple in some small country. He sends armies to fight and men to die, just so eventually that army will come and punish those jews...talk about narcissism.
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  Have you tried a gluten-free diet?

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  @ADMINS

  Cant you sniff the browser agent for the troublesome version of IE and pop a notice up telling the user to change or how to fix the problem...?!?!
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  Impact of climate change may be underestimated - Article worth reading

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  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-26/scientists-may-have-underestimated-climate-change/3913288.

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  The earth's climate has always been changing. Every day and night the earth changes, the seasons are also change. Look at the temperatures for the last thousand years on wiki and you willl see they have been raising for a few hundred years. There is no spike since the industrial revolution. Its just another bullshit reason to tax. If there really was a problem then it stands to reason the gov should spend some of the $ on fixing the pollution problems, but they dont change a single thing.

  Apparently Greenland was warmer a thousand years ago, it even let regular vikings live there albet it was still cold. They then disappeared when the earth experienced a mini ice age, and drop in temps. Dont believe everything you see.

  Suposedly the red lines are temps from newer sources, its amazing how things jump not only after the industrial revolution but immediately before that aswell. Of course we affect the earth, but we are nothing cmpared to nature itself, things like volcanos spew out enormous amounts of bad gasses that must be several magnitudes more than the entire mankind.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_past_1000_years

  

  
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  How to beat and control your wife: a new Muslim marriage book!

  by Terry in

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  a local bookstore has sold out of a controversial marriage guide that advises muslim men on how to beat their wives.. .

  the 160-page book, published by idara impex in new delhi, india, is written by hazrat maulana ashraf ali thanvi, whos described in the books foreword as a prolific writer on almost every topic of islamic learning.. .

  the stores manager, who didnt give his name, said the book had been sold out for some time, and the stores owner, whom the manager identified as shamim ahmad, refused to comment for the story.. .

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  Pure madness in Islam. You goto wonder how a society can survive when it actively is at war with half its population. Not only is Islam busy hating everyone else, but they also hate themselves, their mothers, wives, sisters, and so on.