I knew a few JW children who were beaten by their parents for various non-performance issues e.g. Not remembering scriptures, not giving talks ...
Did this happen to you?
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As a JW child, were you physically punished for non-performance?
by biometrics ini knew a few jw children who were beaten by their parents for various non-performance issues e.g.
not remembering scriptures, not giving talks .... did this happen to you?.
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Kingdom Hall remodel - scam
by Dagney ini was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.
in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.
they both are undergoing major remodels.
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Ahh the fights that I remember about KH remodelling. I remember one elder (who was against remodelling) started yelling in the meeting. There was a vote put to the congregation whether or not the hall needed remodelling (hall was 5 years old). First vote was the for, nearly everyone put their hands up, next the against. There were only a few hands, everyone looking at the elder who was against it. That was enought to set him off. I can't remember what he said, but he stormed out of the KH yelling and pointing.
Then there was another KH I was at. One elder acused everyone of having too much money, and not contributing to the remodel. He used the example of cars in the parking lot, saying most people had expensive cars, yet didn't contribute to the remodel.
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Now that we plan for Retirement
by designs inone of the big adjustments for many of us was growing older and realizing retirement was a reality.
did you have a company or government retirement package or personal ira or 401k.
what advice would you give the 20 to 60 year olds coming to term with 'life in this system'..
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My mum got an insurance payout when dad died (I was 5). I later learned that one of the elders convinced her that loaning it to build the local kingdom hall would be a good idea. So mum gave them an interest free loan of around 100K (in the early 1980s). At that time you could have purchased two nice houses. Or one really nice waterfront house, and a new car.
As a child, I used to think that elder was just a great bloke. He invited our whole family over to his house quite often. He used to make us mow his lawns, and do yard work, which I didn't mind too much. He also included us in his family activities. After the hall was built, we had very little to do with him. The hall was his pet project.
It took over 20 years to pay the principal back.
Needless to say, mum doesn't really have any money, and lives on the pension (but is still a devout JW).
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Without God, Do Humans Have More Intrinsic Value Than Animals?
by leavingwt in.
if there is no god (however defined), do humans have more intrinsic value than animals?
feel free to offer brief or complex responses.
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Only if they have gold fillings.
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The day a brother died in my Hall, & the unbelievable events that followed.
by Mr Ben inthis one really freaked me out.
i was so brainwashed at the time i found a way to justify it.
i think i?ve been repressing my anger about this and now i need to vent.
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When I was younger I saw a child having an epileptic fit during the assembly. The parents had to put a book in his mouth (I guess so he couldn't bite his tounge), but the show went on. The parents (including mine) told us kids not to look.
A few times I saw an ambulance at the circuit assembly, but never knew exactly what happened.
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As a JW child, were you afraid to swallow your own blood?
by biometrics ingrowing up as a jw born-in during the 1980s i distinctly remember cutting my tounge.
i was afraid to swallow my blood, thinking that if i even swallowed one drop i woudn't make it to the new system.
so i kept spitting the blood out.
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Growing up as a JW born-in during the 1980s I distinctly remember cutting my tounge. I was afraid to swallow my blood, thinking that if I even swallowed one drop I woudn't make it to the new system. So I kept spitting the blood out. I asked some brothers about this, they said it was ok if the cut was in my mouth. Then I asked if I cut my finger is it ok to lick the blood, they couldn't answer that one.
Did anyone else have this fear of their own blood as a JW child?
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Now that we plan for Retirement
by designs inone of the big adjustments for many of us was growing older and realizing retirement was a reality.
did you have a company or government retirement package or personal ira or 401k.
what advice would you give the 20 to 60 year olds coming to term with 'life in this system'..
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@pontoon
Sorry to hear you lost so much in 08. Not trying to blow my own trumpet, but my pension plan nearly trippled from 2008 to 2010. I wouldn't say it was "Luck", but I had good timing on my side. I took all my superannuation money from the stock market about 3 months before the crash, then invested it in commodities.
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Number of JW's on antidepressant medication & unemployment
by biometrics inin the congregations i attended more than 60% of the people i knew were on some type of antidepressant medication.
this rate seems much higher than "worldly" people i know/knew.
or perhaps witnesses are just more open about this topic?.
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@No Room For George
I think you're correct. I never knew that many people were on psychiatric medication, that makes JW figures seem "normal". The "Worldly" friends I know are mostly educated, and probably wouldn't discuss whether they're on medication, at least not with me.
When I went to the doctor a few years ago for feeling tired / low engergy levels. He tried to convince me I was depressed (I now know he gets higher rates from the Government for "mental health" consultations). I got out of there as quickly as I could, took matters in my own hands, changed my diet, and exercise.
I guess the depression topic came up alot when I was attending meetings. It was quite common to hear "Sister so-and-so is in the hospital for depression", and on heavy duty medication like lithium. And I personally had friends who were on medication and commited suicide. My brother in law had to cut one of my JW friends from the noose he hung from. He was on antidepressants, came home from the meeting, went out with another JW couple. They gave him wine (big no with the medication he was on). He had a wife and two young children.
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Number of JW's on antidepressant medication & unemployment
by biometrics inin the congregations i attended more than 60% of the people i knew were on some type of antidepressant medication.
this rate seems much higher than "worldly" people i know/knew.
or perhaps witnesses are just more open about this topic?.
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In the congregations I attended more than 60% of the people I knew were on some type of antidepressant medication. This rate seems much higher than "worldly" people I know/knew. Or perhaps Witnesses are just more open about this topic?
Another thing I noticed was the high rate of Witnesses on unemployment benefits (welfare is lax in Australia). My guess is 30% or more were not working and receiving unemployment. That doesn't include elderly or those on a pension.
Does anyone else have similar experiences?
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Now that we plan for Retirement
by designs inone of the big adjustments for many of us was growing older and realizing retirement was a reality.
did you have a company or government retirement package or personal ira or 401k.
what advice would you give the 20 to 60 year olds coming to term with 'life in this system'..
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401K, investements, bonds, CDs. A mix of agressive short term and stable growth long term.
Sorry, but that investment strategy worked in the 1980s, but it won't work in 2012, or for the next 5+ years.