$4k per day doesn't seem like much, (and it really isn't) but if the WT keeps this crap up, the sanctions and fines can end up being much higher. This is just a warning shot on the court's part. Courts don't take well to having their orders ignored.
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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents
by Simon injudge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
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How will BREXIT affect Watchtower's interpretation of Daniel's prophecies?
by truthseeker innow that the uk has voted to leave the eu i wonder how this will impact watchtower's thinking about the end times prophecies in daniel and revelation?.
will trump win the presidency, and if so, will he and whoever is in charge of the uk form a new anglo-american power?
what about the ten kings ruling in the time of the end?.
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If the WT is wise, it won't prophesy anything at all. They've had too many prophecies blow up in their faces.
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Jehovah protects his people. Did he ever protect you?
by TimeBandit inhello forum.
i started this topic because i had been thinking recently about a story that i had heard many times in different congregations over the years.
kind of a jw urban legend if you will.
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Big fat nope. Everything good I have in my life is because I worked for it. Everything bad is just a case of crap happens and sometimes it's going to happen to me. Doesn't mean I like it, but that's life.
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List of "pagan" things JW's allow
by problemaddict 2 inwhat i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.
the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.
for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.
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What about dream catchers? Weren't they on the 'thou shalt not have' list for a while?
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I Just had a CLOSE ENCOUNTER of the Dub kind
by TerryWalstrom ini just frightened a jehovah’s witness lady half out of her wits!.
i just frightened a sweet jehovah’s witness lady half out of her wits.... .
she took off like a sprinter at the sound of a starter pistol!.
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ROFLMAO! Hilarious. Sad, too, but hilarious. Well, at least you tried, Terry.
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2016 convention "movies". Propaganda, pure and simple....
by stuckinarut2 inno doubt all are familiar with the 2016 convention video movies being shown?.
(if you haven't seen them, go to cedars youtube channel to see them in full).
they are the most disturbing, emotionally manipulative, propaganda pieces ever seen.. thoughts?.
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Disturbing. Very disturbing. I can remember being told we couldn't have worldly friends in school and that we should limit contact with non-drone family members, but I don't remember it being this bad. This is a whole new level of paranoia.
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Cart "Witnessing"
by Funchback inbesides being a waste of time for those doing it, and being an easy way for the society to inflate its reports of time spent in the ministry, cart witnessing is also taking up space.
i live in a hot city in brazil.
today, the jws decided to set up their cart in the shady spot of the bus stop, where people going to work have to wait for the bus.. ugh!.
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Funchback- the local JWs had a booth at last year's fair. It was a pretty sorry display. A table and display stand with some mags and tracts and a screen behind it playing some dumb video with sound you couldn't hear. The JWs on booth duty just sat in the back, not talking to anyone but each other. I only saw one lady go up to the booth, pick up a mag, realize what it was, toss it down and walk away fast.
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Sin Inherited Humankind
by looter inso jws believe all humans have faults, problems, birth pangs, etc., because we all inherited sin from the original human being adam.
like i would like this to make since but why would jehovah do this to future humans who have done nothing wrong at all?
i think of it like if a parent has one child and that child really disobeyed her before then when the parent has a second child, she punishes that child because of what her first did.
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The Adam and Eve story is just a myth made up to explain why humans suffer, age, and die. Don't try to find any sense in it. There isn't any.
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Born Twice - Die Once .... Born Once - Die Twice
by Perry injesus taught that we must die unto ourselves, and allow the holy spirit to take up residence within us.
some people get saved by simply inviting jesus into their hearts, to be the lord of their life.
this serves as a countering force within the born-again christian to counterbalance the will of the flesh, which is still unsaved in this life and destined for destruction in imitation of our lord himself.. attempting to live the christian life without having this spirit within you is a waste of time at the minimum, and dangerous on the downside.
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Perry, you are certainly entitled to believe whatever you like. That doesn't mean I'm going to agree with you. The Bible as we know it today didn't take its final shape before the 4th or 5th centuries. The Gospels weren't written until decades after Jesus (might have) lived and died. How can we be certain what Jesus really (supposedly) said and what was added later or exaggerated along the way?
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A cheeky cigarette in Adelaide
by wozza inmy partner has been going to the adelaide law courts recently and as she goes thru the topham mall she has said hello to the jw cart ladies on her way ,well, today one of the ladies she observed went around the corner from the cart and lit up a ciggy...so naughty.. my partner has never been a witness but she knows i was once and asked me if they were allowed to smoke now.. jeez they get up to some naughty stuff when they are lounging around on their phones ,must be the devils tools corrupting them ha ha.
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Now that is an excellent suggestion, breakfast! Maybe I'll roll my own the next time a Witness tries to give me a tract. I don't smoke but it would be worth it just to see the looks.