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  Today's Text - Fear Mongering, Great Tribulation, & New Light!

  by Divergent in

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  a stupid text which raises many questions -.

  sunday, june 26. there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.—matt.

  24:21.. the earthly part of jehovah’s organization is moving ahead in various ways.

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  Wayward

  When 'certain truths' change, they weren't so certain, were they? Today's 'certain truths'= tomorrow's 'old light'.
  
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

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  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Wayward

  Outsider, your reasoning that Midianite girls and women weren't raped because they married their captors is appalling and abhorrent. Those women were FORCED into those 'marriages' against their will. That meets my definition of rape. Would you want that fate for your own sister, daughter, niece?
  
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  Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

  by Simon in

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  2. scandals

  judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

  imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

  by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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  Wayward

  ......."they are a great client. they pay their bills on time, and they are always in trouble."

  That should tell you something. The Society is up to their eyeballs in manure and the R&F haven't a clue.
  
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  A Family Divided....Again

  by BeautifulMind in

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  good morning everyone.

  well, just as our family was finally all out of the org., getting back to being the family we once were, one of my family members recently went back in.

  i won't give many details that will give away my identity.

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  Wayward

  That sucks, Beautiful.
  
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  Are the witnesses working the homeless territory in down town L.A.Calif

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  today after leaving the va center in l.a. i drove around to see the homeless and.

  blocks and blocks of tents, card board boxes, hundreds of homeless people with.

  a look of desperation on their faces.

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  Wayward

  My hubby and I have come very close to being flat broke and at risk of losing our home. We both work in the construction industry and its sucked in our area for the last several years. I came face to face with how easy it would be to become homeless through no fault of our own. We've been lucky to keep our jobs when so many others have lost theirs.

  I'm surprised you didn't see any JWs working the homeless camps. They're great at the whole 'keep warm and well fed' routine.
  
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  Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

  imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

  by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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  $4k per day doesn't seem like much, (and it really isn't) but if the WT keeps this crap up, the sanctions and fines can end up being much higher. This is just a warning shot on the court's part. Courts don't take well to having their orders ignored.
  
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  How will BREXIT affect Watchtower's interpretation of Daniel's prophecies?

  by truthseeker in

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  now that the uk has voted to leave the eu i wonder how this will impact watchtower's thinking about the end times prophecies in daniel and revelation?.

  will trump win the presidency, and if so, will he and whoever is in charge of the uk form a new anglo-american power?

  what about the ten kings ruling in the time of the end?.

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  If the WT is wise, it won't prophesy anything at all. They've had too many prophecies blow up in their faces.
  
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  Jehovah protects his people. Did he ever protect you?

  by TimeBandit in

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  hello forum.

  i started this topic because i had been thinking recently about a story that i had heard many times in different congregations over the years.

  kind of a jw urban legend if you will.

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  Wayward

  Big fat nope. Everything good I have in my life is because I worked for it. Everything bad is just a case of crap happens and sometimes it's going to happen to me. Doesn't mean I like it, but that's life.
  
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  List of "pagan" things JW's allow

  by problemaddict 2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.

  the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.

  for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.

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  What about dream catchers? Weren't they on the 'thou shalt not have' list for a while?
  
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  I Just had a CLOSE ENCOUNTER of the Dub kind

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  i just frightened a jehovah’s witness lady half out of her wits!.

  i just frightened a sweet jehovah’s witness lady half out of her wits.... .

  she took off like a sprinter at the sound of a starter pistol!.

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  Wayward

  ROFLMAO! Hilarious. Sad, too, but hilarious. Well, at least you tried, Terry.