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  Sin Inherited Humankind

  by looter in

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  so jws believe all humans have faults, problems, birth pangs, etc., because we all inherited sin from the original human being adam.

  like i would like this to make since but why would jehovah do this to future humans who have done nothing wrong at all?

  i think of it like if a parent has one child and that child really disobeyed her before then when the parent has a second child, she punishes that child because of what her first did.

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  Wayward

  The Adam and Eve story is just a myth made up to explain why humans suffer, age, and die. Don't try to find any sense in it. There isn't any.
  
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  Born Twice - Die Once .... Born Once - Die Twice

  by Perry in

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  2. bible

  jesus taught that we must die unto ourselves, and allow the holy spirit to take up residence within us.

  some people get saved by simply inviting jesus into their hearts, to be the lord of their life.

  this serves as a countering force within the born-again christian to counterbalance the will of the flesh, which is still unsaved in this life and destined for destruction in imitation of our lord himself.. attempting to live the christian life without having this spirit within you is a waste of time at the minimum, and dangerous on the downside.

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  Wayward

  Perry, you are certainly entitled to believe whatever you like. That doesn't mean I'm going to agree with you. The Bible as we know it today didn't take its final shape before the 4th or 5th centuries. The Gospels weren't written until decades after Jesus (might have) lived and died. How can we be certain what Jesus really (supposedly) said and what was added later or exaggerated along the way?
  
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  A cheeky cigarette in Adelaide

  by wozza in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my partner has been going to the adelaide law courts recently and as she goes thru the topham mall she has said hello to the jw cart ladies on her way ,well, today one of the ladies she observed went around the corner from the cart and lit up a ciggy...so naughty.. my partner has never been a witness but she knows i was once and asked me if they were allowed to smoke now.. jeez they get up to some naughty stuff when they are lounging around on their phones ,must be the devils tools corrupting them ha ha.

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  Wayward

  Now that is an excellent suggestion, breakfast! Maybe I'll roll my own the next time a Witness tries to give me a tract. I don't smoke but it would be worth it just to see the looks.
  
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  "holding the anointed elders in his right hand"

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (ks10 p11:1) revelation 1:20 depicts jesus as holding the anointed elders in his right hand, thus, by extension, indicating that he controls all bodies of elders for the purpose of accomplishing jehovah’s will.

  (re pp.

  in the shepherding book it says "holding the anointed elders in his right hand".

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  Wayward

  The idea that the Bible is only for the anointed (the Governing Body these days now that the rest of the anointed are ignored) isn't much different from the old Catholic teaching that the Bible was only for the priests to interpret.
  
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  Why a drop of over 3,700 publishers in the Democratic Republic of Congo?

  by freddo in

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  2. friends

  looking at the figures for 2014 to 2015 the numbers have dropped from 180,343 to 176,585.. any idea why?.

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  Always possible the numbers were fudged in the first place. More likely fighting forced people to flee the country for a safer one, causing a sharp drop in one country and a sudden rise in another. When the situation becomes a bit better, people will start going home and there could be a spike in reported publishers. Just a guess though.
  
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  Did others experience this on the ministry or among JWs generally?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sometimes it's hard to know if our own experience of jws was typical and what features were peculiar to our own area or the individual jws we knew personally.

  i was wondering if others experienced this among jws:.

  a few times on the ministry, when we were working wealthy areas with large houses, some brothers and sisters would make the comment that they look forward to taking ownership of one of these big houses after armageddon, when the worldly people have vacated them.

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  Wayward

  My area of Pennsylvania US doesn't have many affluent neighborhoods (we're mostly rural here) but there are a few. And yes, I heard comments like that pretty often 20 some years ago. Don't know what its like now.
  
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  That good old JW rumour mill

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  because i simply decided the watchtower corporation wasn't the truth(tm) i was da'd in a secret jc that i didn't attend.

  i was writing songs with a friend that day instead.. jws wasted no time in labelling me as an evil villain.

  the rumours abounded.. i was labelled as 'a false prophet'.

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  I'm really sorry to hear what your dad went through, pale emperor. Its really sad that not only did he have to deal with a devastating illness, which is bad enough!, he had to deal with the slander put out by his ever so loving 'brothers' and 'sisters'.

  Years ago a lady in my hall, an elder's wife, stopped going out in fs and started missing a lot of meetings. Of course the old gossip hotline revved into high gear. She was drifting away from the twoof; she was cheating on her husband. All the usual idiot stories. Then she died from leukemia. I wonder if the people who slandered her while she was dying felt at all bad after she was gone.

  Oh the love!
  
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  That good old JW rumour mill

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  because i simply decided the watchtower corporation wasn't the truth(tm) i was da'd in a secret jc that i didn't attend.

  i was writing songs with a friend that day instead.. jws wasted no time in labelling me as an evil villain.

  the rumours abounded.. i was labelled as 'a false prophet'.

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  Mom assumes I left because some of the young 'sisters' hurt my feelings. (I caught them red-handed gossiping about me at a meeting. Now its funny remembering how embarrassed they looked when they saw me standing behind them.) They did hurt my feelings, but that wasn't even close to being the reason I left. So much easier to blame hurt feelings than to admit da twoof is garbage!
  
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  Father's Day is tomorrow (in the US). Why is it wrong?

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i did an examination of the one single article ever to address father's day since it's tomorrow here in the us.

  the article covers both mother's day and father's day.

  hope it's informative.. examination of “mother and father worship unscriptural”, the only article ever to address father’s day in any publication printed by the watchtower bible and tract society.

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  Wayward

  Lets say we accept the idea that Mother's Day, Father's Day and birthdays are acts of worshipping humans. No Bible basis whatsoever, (the Bible even tells us specifically to 'honor thy father and thy mother) but lets say we accept it anyway. Now, if you accept that logic, then the logical next step would be to say that graduations, baby and wedding showers, wedding receptions and wedding anniversaries are worshipping humans. But very few JWs see those celebrations as worship. That makes no sense. Those celebrations are still focusing attention on a person.

  I should know by now not to look for logic when it comes to JWs!
  
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  JWR usernames list

  by StarryNight9 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i created this thread so that jwr members can list their old jwr username with their username for whatever site they've moved to.

  i apologize if this has already been created somewhere else.. jwr = starrynight.

  jwd = starrynight9.

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  Wayward

  Wayward here and there. Finally was able to get my avatar changed under my user profile. Happy dance!