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  Current circuit visit

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

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  as we are into the third week of the new circuit visit arrangement, i was wondering if any had experienced it yet and whether there are any changes.

  what is done with the spare evening?

  anyone tried to get an appointment through with the c/o doing the appointing?

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  The congregation in our town (UK) had their circuit visit the first week in September. I am intrigued by the direction the Society appears to be taking, so I went along for the last half hour on both Tuesday and Sunday to see what the Governing Body are getting their circuit overseer's to say. In short: nothing much.

  At the risk of spoiling it for you, it was all old hat. Nothing new. I won't be doing it again, ever. Their can't be anything new at a circuit visit because they are stretched out over the course of six months and if the Society wants anything new released they always do it in one big hit. The AGM would appear to be the modus operandi these days.

  Anyway, the Tuesday talk was themed around loving the truth, based on 1 Corinthians 13:6, "Love...rejoices with the truth." It was a rehash of Society history, and how we all rejoiced when new truths were revealed. Whether it was in the outline, or it was just a man's personal over-emphasis, the circuit overseer here talked about "the full light of truth" being revealed in 1935 about the great crowd. The outline regurgitates the story of Rutherford asking for all those who are looking forward to living forever in paradise on earth to "please stand up," and half the audience rises to their feet. This questionable event is held up as some kind of modern-day miracle. The point the CO seems to overlook is that since that time the full light of truth has turned out to be not full light at all. The Society have revised their position on the door to entry in to the 144,000 being closed in 1935. Much to their embarrassment the number of partakers has gradually been rising over the last few years, and 1935 has been quietly swept under the carpet.

  Sunday's talk was all about the resurrection hope. Of course, there was reference to the recent Resurrection weepie. But it was all about the "very real" resurrection hope conveyed in the scriptures and how it can strengthen you and give you courage if you are faced with having to die for what you believe, etc, etc.

  The extra evening would appear to be set aside for Family Worship. Whether that allows the CO and his wife to have an evening to themselves so that they can engage in family worship - or whether they swoop down on a local family - I don't know. That might be interesting to find out.

  So: A reiteration of Society's history and its love of truth, followed by a re-emphasis on the resurrection hope. I suppose it is possible to read a deeper meaning in to those two things. But, all in all, same old same old.
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  Why The Watchtower Must Abolish Judicial Committees

  by metatron in

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  2. friends

  some years ago, i upset some crypto-watchtower apologists by stating that the organization must eventually either abolish the co arrangement or radically change it because it creates a direct chain of liability by chain of command and makes them a hierarchy (without catholic level assets or influence to support such a structure).. i would make a similar argument with regard to judicial committees.

  i do not contend that the watchtower would get rid of these repellent anachronisms simply because they are unethical in form and use but rather that they represent an increasing liability/obstacle to the organization's survival.. why?.

  1) such committees tend to open up all sorts of legal challenges and dangers.

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  Sheesh, what is it with the "window washers"? A bloody taxi driver won Mastermind. Window washers are not necessarily numpties, no more or less than any one else is. It could be argued that everyone has a stupid bullsh*t job whether they are high-powered lawyers, or a genius surgeon with a God complex. It's all just to earn a penny and stay afloat in this world. Who wants to bow to "The Man," anyway? Window washers are supremely wise: They are self-employed, and work to their own schedule; they are not dictated to by some corporate blowhard; they work out of doors in the sunshine and cool breezes; they work in the silence where they can meditate on life's intricacies; they keep people's windows shiny; they have hardly any overheads. They are so damn sensible it makes my head spin.
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  The earth is flat...

  by rory-ks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...and the ship is sailing over the edge.. .

  such is the state of the watch tower society..

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  It's their credibility that is sailing over the edge - some would argue that there needn't even be a ship in the picture because their credibility went over long ago...but I liked the picture.

  I like the "flat earth" analogy because many of the Organisations beliefs are stuck in the ancient past - Creationism, fundamentalism, authorship of the Bible and time of writing. These are all aspects that have meant this huge clunking vessel can not steer itself away from the edge. It is a corporation, and that takes it over the edge; it is making itself indistinguishable from other Christian denominations, and that takes it over the edge.

  I like the ship in the picture - a container ship, the hapless cargo, thousands of congregations with hundreds of thousands of members, blindly being driven over the edge by a blind leadership.

  Coded Logic, I love that point about JWs: Five years ago vindicating Jehovah's name was the most important thing to the Jehovah's Witnesses. Now they are perfectly okay with calling themselves JWs. Excellent stuff!
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses the only religion to teach a paradise earth?

  by rory-ks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have tried researching, but this pesky organisation always packs out the list.

  you seem to have to drill down several layers before reaching christadelphians.. is it a recognised idea among other peoples/religions?.

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  I have tried researching, but this pesky Organisation always packs out the list. You seem to have to drill down several layers before reaching Christadelphians.

  Is it a recognised idea among other peoples/religions?
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  The earth is flat...

  by rory-ks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...and the ship is sailing over the edge.. .

  such is the state of the watch tower society..

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  ...and the ship is sailing over the edge.

  

  Such is the state of the Watch Tower Society.
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  WT makes comic books now!

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  full set http://imgur.com/a/jvcla .

  i put that album together so you don't have to give www.jw.borg any more traffic .

  sample:.

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  I make no apology - this series is bloody brilliant!

  This is just the way the Bible needs to be conveyed - super-heroes and super-villains. It puts it all squarely where it needs to be, in fantasy.

  The artists involved must be having a whale of a time. It is stunning to look at. I love some of the progressions. Lot's wife becoming a pillar of salt is a beaut - you really get the impression of it creeping up her leg and around her hand until it covers her face. That solitary tear.

  The women are comic-book gorgeous. Jochebed in the water is downright sexy! The exaggerated movement in the braids of Potiphar's wife.

  Best, for me, is the Red Sea saga: The boy in the back of the wagon noticing the approaching Egyptians; the artist is obviously a Star Wars nut - he couldn't resist, "It's a trap!" And that girl rocking out at the end - f'ckin' marvellous!

  The only weak thing is the lettering - they need to get someone who can print and do speech-bubbles, rather than leave that to the computer.

  I know, I know, all that talent being used for the indoctrination of children - it is sickening. A crying shame. But there's a little part of me that thinks it won't really help - it might rather lodge in the child's mind as being unreal. Put it into the category of all the other comics that are not real.
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  The long weekend of B.S begins - UK.

  by quellycatface in

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  isn't going to be wonderful??.

  not being there..

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  You can see THAT resurrection video in full at this post.
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  Serious problems with Gospel of John, and his Revelation

  by Pinku in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) john presents a jesus who is totally different from other gospels.

  2) johns claim of jesus being partial to him undermines jesuss own teaching (mathew 5:44-48).

  3) johns claim of first miracle (changing the water into wine) and the last (or most spectacular) miracle of resurrecting lazarus are not known to earlier gospel writers---something impossible for them to miss!.

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  Here's an alternative take on Revelation and the Gospel of John.
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  Seventeen-and-a-half glorious minutes with the irrepressible Mr Lett

  by rory-ks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  can't...tear...my...eyes...away.... .

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx8db7m5mzq.

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  I liked this comment made by Vicious Fiction 101 on youtube:

  To be fair, Lett has struggled with stuttering as have I. For some who are "slow of mouth" over-enunciating helps, and being super-animated helps too. I know it helps me.

  He's doing his best, like I did. He may not know what he's involved in. I didn't. Not until I studied Cults.... and I read Crisis of Conscience...
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  At some point in the future, you WILL be gay.

  by rory-ks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgekcfofaau.

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  I'm sure he must be saying "widely," but it sure does sound like "wildly."