I haven't had time to read the whole thread but I would recommend doing some study of faith, god, religion and belief away from this forum and without any JW bias or perspective.
JW 'rules of belief' and even 'rules of interpretation' are far removed from what is out there.
Basically it is a fundamentalist approach. JWs and Ex-JWs tend to have little idea or concept of anything else and hence only argue and reason from this angle.
My short answer to the question is no
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Is my clinging on to a belief in a Creator doing me any harm?
by KateWild ini use the word clinging, as i feel that is what i am doing.
as far as my knowledge of science, namely chemistry is concerned, i am satisfied there is evidence of a creator.
i am happy to believe this.
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Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants
by pixel inhello, you read it here first!.
governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
to all congregations.
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In reality it was always the CO who did this anyway. The 'Bethel approval' was just a front.
Totally agree with the liability observations tho.
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Recent changes
by Thumblina ini was on this board a lot when i faded and left 6 years ago but not been on much since.
is there any thread/s in particular to read showing the changes in the past 5 years?
or any kind willing person who has time to summarise them as a reply below??
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Blood transfusions are all but officially a 'conscience matter' but if done 'brazenly' could get you in trouble.
What's the low down on that?
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Involved with a JW woman
by jonza inokay so i'm dating a born-in jw woman, she's younger than me and has no kids.
i'm a christian man whos divorced with 2 kids.
we're in love and seriously want to be together.
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If you let your kids go anywhere near a kingdom hall you are out of your mind. You have no IDEA of the indoctrination that goes on. If she wants to go, well that's an adult making an adult decision. But keep your children well away.
If I were the kids mother I would make a huge issue about the kids going there.
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How many members of our forum are there, and where are most from?
by stuckinarut2 ini would love to know where most of our fellow forum members are from.... is there a way to compile a quick list?.
for example, i would love to know how many live near me......
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Need to find those Km or Wt articles encouraging all to read the old publications!
by stuckinarut2 ini have been dropping comments to a few re some classic old beliefs and teachings etc... and when asked "where did you read that, or how come you are saying such and such?
" i have replied "well, you remember we have often been told to study and research our old 'theocratic history' and 'old gems' of material?....
now though i have been challenged to prove where this has been printed!.
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People 'mark' the thread so that they can find it again for reference, presumably by looking through threads they've posted on.
I've never really understood why they don't just bookmark the page in their browser but hey ho
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If Someone Mocks Jehovah's Witnesses Does That Bother You?
by minimus inevery once in a while i hear people purposely make fun of jws, calling them hovas, jeehoovers, etc.
i don't think that's a good way to reach them..
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Nope doesn't bother me at all. I suppose in truth it depends if by JW you mean the WT or individuals. I definitely don't have a problem with mocking the WT. Individual JWs I'd decide on merit(!)
Sometimes it feels like there's this unwritten rule that even if you leave you still have to show some respect. Almost as if they still make the rules and everyone has to follow them. Well I'm afraid that i don't play by their rules at all. They don't have a problem mocking other religions, denominations or individual believers. Assembly programmes are full of accounts poking fun at non-JWs.
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Could they walk any slower on the ministry(tm)?
by punkofnice ini was out in my car this saturday as i went to visit my friend.. i saw the jws scattered about mooching down the streets.. i arrived home in a different area to where my friend lives.
as i opened my door there was an invitation to the mock the christ ritual.
a group of jws mooched past my house, looked at me rather lethargically and carried on mooching along.. considering they don't know i'm an 'apostate(tm)', they certainly were in no hurry to beg me to come to their mock the christ charade considering that if i don't go jar-hoover will lovingly murder me soon (subject to overlapping(tm) ).. i know we had 'the pioneer walk(tm)' back in the day but puh-leeeeeeeze!
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Couldn't agree more NY44
But they manage to deflect from having to measure productivity by their convenient 'watchman/giving witness' interpretation which justifies the 'nobody listens or cares but we warned them' mindset.
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Could they walk any slower on the ministry(tm)?
by punkofnice ini was out in my car this saturday as i went to visit my friend.. i saw the jws scattered about mooching down the streets.. i arrived home in a different area to where my friend lives.
as i opened my door there was an invitation to the mock the christ ritual.
a group of jws mooched past my house, looked at me rather lethargically and carried on mooching along.. considering they don't know i'm an 'apostate(tm)', they certainly were in no hurry to beg me to come to their mock the christ charade considering that if i don't go jar-hoover will lovingly murder me soon (subject to overlapping(tm) ).. i know we had 'the pioneer walk(tm)' back in the day but puh-leeeeeeeze!
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If they were being paid to do their work commercially they would be sacked.
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WTBT$ will no longer support Elder's legally....
by Newly Enlightened inwe received an email and are wondering if anyone can verify this little tidbit of news.
does anyone know if this is true or not?.
maybe any elder's on here?.
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Typical WT
Don't support it's elders if they get caught following WT policy, disfellowship them if they don't.