well new to me anyway, i'm sure someone smarter than me has thought of this before.
the next time i get asked the perennial (and tired old) question: “but you do believe that the gb are god’s channel of communication, the organisation he is using, don’t you?” or some variation thereof, i am going to reply with two verses and reason as follows:.
the matter to be established: have the gb of jehovah’s witnesses received divine appointment to act as god’s representatives and channel of communication on earth?.
How incredibly stupid.
Virtually every denomination going could take the 3 criteria that they present and provide 'evidence' of Holy Spirit, Angelic Direction and Adherence to Scripture, if they were of a mind to. It's just that only WT are arrogant enough to do so.
all exhibits for case study 54, jehovah's witnesses and watchtower, have been released by the arc.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.
exhibit list.
joint statement of o'brien and spinks.
Where is the quote on child pornography? I can't find that on page 3 of the Child Protection Policy.
someone suggested i would address a letter not only to mr. angus stewart, but also to the royal commission as well.
it merges the two subjects on the same letter (inactive status and shunning; two witness rule), and adds some things more that what i said to mr. stewart.
it's a bit long, please bear with me.. --------------------------------------- .
Absolutely stuckinarut.
I wish the ARC had had this up their sleeve at the hearing. The summer assembly was ALL ABOUT shunning. Total liars.
once again, the arc has brilliantly highlighted the reality that any witness who either fades or disassociates is subjected to active official shunning by the organization.. the "brothers" tried to state that it was the choice of the indiviual who steps away from the organization to shun them!
they actually tried to make it out to be the fault of the one who leaves!
then they tried to say that those who fade are not shunned!.
I know first hand of a current situation where a young woman who hadn't been for just under 2 years was, on the instructions of the circuit overseer, chased up about her new relationship (since remarried) and pregnancy, and disfellowshipped. This is in the last 6months, and is a direct result of the summer convention's instructions. It is a shame Angus didn't have the details about the assembly's theme and pressure to show loyalty through shunning. It's ABSOLUTELY current and shows them to be total liars.
once again, the arc has brilliantly highlighted the reality that any witness who either fades or disassociates is subjected to active official shunning by the organization.. the "brothers" tried to state that it was the choice of the indiviual who steps away from the organization to shun them!
they actually tried to make it out to be the fault of the one who leaves!
then they tried to say that those who fade are not shunned!.
Is this in the opening address?
what is the exact live streaming site for the arc today in sydney?
i hope someone or more here will be watching and giving info/quips throughout the case.
also, will someone here or elsewhere be able to 'save' a video of this (all or part).
So.
WT reps lied, mumbled, stalled and stumbled.
But the bottom line is that they haven't implemented what the ARC asked them to do nearly 2 years ago. And they're not going to. They never were. At best they will publish some letters and WT articles that SAYS they'll report to the police.
So what is going to HAPPEN? What can the ARC actually do? Can they actually do anything to force WT to change? Or can they sanction if they don't.
I have a very uneasy feeling.
jehovah’s witnesses “child safeguarding policy” (great britain, ireland, uk) – 2017. analysis of the child safeguarding policy of jehovah’s witnesses in the united kingdom and the republic of ireland [2017].
by barbara anderson.
2013’s “watch tower bible and tract society of britain and congregations of jehovah’s witnesses in the united kingdom and ireland child safeguarding policy” (wtb&ts of britain’s csp) document was considered to be the official watch tower policy until the release on january 1 of the 2017 “child safeguarding policy of jehovah’s witnesses in the united kingdom, etc.,” (csp of jws in the uk).”.
This could turn out to be great news. I'm no expert but aren't all Congregations, charities in their own rights and the local elders, aren't they trustees? I was under the impression that trustees were personally liable for example if the charity ended up with a big bill they couldn't pay etc.
If someone tries to sue the WT and fails because they have wriggled out by making 'Jehovah's Witnesses' responsible, the local elders will sooner or later be the targets. When that happens we will see genuine changes in policy, practice and procedure which will result in adequate protection for vulnerable members. Either that or a raft of elder resignations. Win/win.
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.
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I thought that the WT Lawyer got referred to the Australian Law Society or something? Did anything ever happen?
latest date just published for case study 54, jehovah's witnesses and watchtower.
the public hearings will commence friday 10 march 2017 at the child abuse royal commission's hearing rooms in sydney.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.
the scope and purpose of the public hearing is to inquire into:.
Well if the ARC is as good at cutting through bullshit as they were last time, a couple of questions should cut through the bluster of their 'new policies' and 'adjustments'.
One being:
Q: If a child makes an accusation of abuse and there are no witnesses, what do you do and how has this changed?
a petition has been launched in australia to coincide with the child abuse royal commission's adverse findings against watchtower and jehovah's witnesses.
the petition is to the australian charities and not-for-profit commission to cancel their charity status.. https://www.change.org/p/australian-charities-and-not-for-profit-commission-acnc-cancel-the-watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-s-charity-status.
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The 18m that they sent 'overseas'...
Would that be to Brooklyn then?
