Posts by Betheliesalot

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"Armageddon is already here"; "the preaching work is done" -- rogue teachings in your congregation?

by FatFreek 2005 in

one of my jw sons seems to be putting pressure on his non-jw brother apparently to scare him into accepting the troof and start coming to meetings.

wild statements like our topic title, which i know are not supported at jw dot org, have been made to my non-jw son several times over the past year or so.

while i haven't been privy to the actual phone conversations i tend to believe that the jw son is being pressured by the local elders to cut ties with the non-jw since their conversations seem to degrade into arguments -- therefore tending to weaken the jws faith in wt teachings.. either my jw son is lying about what i would call rogue teachings (and this would disappoint me greatly) or he is in some close knit clique in his congregation which has secretly chosen to go rogue on certain wt issues.. based on many of the recent posts here about drastic money and wt organization problems this could be a sign of pending splits of certain congregation members.. what do you think?

Betheliesalot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTD1qabI3v0

waiting for the WTS to join the top 10 cults. They are all horrible but have a common thread, and that is everyone but themselves are destroyed in their harm a geddeon.

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Costs Associated with a Regular Size smaller rink Assembly Public Owned

by truthlover123 in

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friends

just came from the one day -- like to call it that cause everything is a changin.... this question would be directed to someone who worked in accounts for an assembly of maybe 1700 in attendance (recently) in a small town, about 2 hours from a main city.

the accounts report was read and it was a stunner..... i guess i could call the location and see how much it costs to rent this arena for a day and see but i was wondering why would they send a large amount of monies to the wt and say we are short on contribution???.

anyb ody know - i do know about monies going for child abuse court problems they are having - latest one in canada where there us a class action suit being brought by trey bundy... plus the so called out of court settlements worldwide.. arc, britain, etc...so i know that end of it - just wondering why they are sucking /lying to support the www... .

Betheliesalot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APb1RpfjCrA

Just love to listen to JT explain the reason why

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The Bloody Boogeyman

by Saename in

have you ever heard a witness argue that blood transfusions are often unhealthy anyway?

it's something that they mention nearly every time to make you think... "oh, after all, it's not like jehovah's witnesses are fanatics because they deny certain medical treatments purely for the sake of the bible.

they do have medical reasons as well!".

Betheliesalot

As I sat in cardiac rehab recently, another patient nearby was talking about his recent bypass and how he got a transfusion during the surgery and got another one later and his demeanor was so refreshing to hear, as he was more concerned about recovering and getting better. Never mind those I use to hang with would have rather died, than received just one of many life saving tools. Makes you wake up and see that those we use to call "friends" were really mind controlled cult members who would praise you if you died for the refusal of blood.

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Explanation please on the change of the term "worldly"

by careful in

i've picked up from several replies to posts here that the org has stopped using the term "worldly" as it applies to people.

this must have happened after i left.

would someone be so kind as to explain the "rationale" behind this shift?

Betheliesalot

"Paradise, don't miss it for the world"

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Signing Away Your Hard Earned Cash

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

reading the meeting workbook study for this week to see what my family will be reading at their meeting, once again they are asking for members for generous gifts not only from money they earn but also part of any investments they may have and making future arrangements for them to inherit after death through their wills.

take a look at the lower part of the page on this link, its awful!

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20151115/donations-worldwide-work/.

Betheliesalot

I was surprised to see one of their bullet points was a Rewards Program!. Upon clicking on it , it was for those with a lot of frequent flyer points or other rewards program to convert them to cards and send them in. This just seems so bottom of the barrel begging, but must be a way for paycheck to paycheck people to find some way to give it all away so they can slip into paradise.

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The wonder of scientific research

by amicabl in

this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

Betheliesalot

Interesting Amicabl to bring up this topic and today on the news is the publication of a 8 year study by a Dr Sam Parnia called The Aware Study about Near Death Experiences. I pasted just two of many news stories released today, and kind of hope they are true, but remain skeptical from all the past studies that promote just one side of this story.

https://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2014/10/07-worlds-largest-near-death-experiences-study.page

https://www.today.com/health/near-death-experiences-may-provide-clues-about-afterlife-t105985

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Things I Cant Stand Since Leaving Watchtower

by pale.emperor in

what a breath a fresh air to be free of watchtower.

now i can finally rant about the things i put up with that i'd never put up with now.. in no particular order:.

little kids in suits.

Betheliesalot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIDk1E9cntI

These new videos they are now making are just so wrong, but if you are drinking their kool aid, you just can't get enough. I can totally see Warwick becoming the next Jonestown.

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Things I Cant Stand Since Leaving Watchtower

by pale.emperor in

what a breath a fresh air to be free of watchtower.

now i can finally rant about the things i put up with that i'd never put up with now.. in no particular order:.

little kids in suits.

Betheliesalot

An Uber Elder,s wife and sons that from her seat, she directs the sickening songs as if she were a Lawrence Welk type, and shaking her head up and down to every statement from the platform, as if she were a bobble head. So pious and condescending. Very similar to watching Jimmy Swaggart singers on tv and as the hold their hands waving to the ceiling, it is just so phony.

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Hypocrisy in tomorrow's WatchTower study

by Isambard Crater in

paragraph 15 says.... 15 besides abusive speech, the practice of lying is also a trait of the old personality.

for example, it is common for people to lie on tax returns or to lie to avoid taking responsibility for their sins.

by contrast, jehovah is “the god of truth.” (ps.

Betheliesalot

Ever seen an ugly as sin baby and you have to lie to say what a pretty baby. Everyone lies at one time or another.

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The Change

by Counter-Watchtower in

the change has begun.

my jw friends that came to my house months ago finally have figured out i am in no way going to become a jw (how it took them that long i have no idea).

now the change to them wanting to have nothing to do with me has begun.

Betheliesalot

Ask them if they believe in Flying, like Im going to the airport to fly away to Spain, or Im flying tomorrow to Japan. Then ask them to read Psalms 90:10 and explain "fly away". Just another toe stumper.