Posts by Betheliesalot

so my father, who is an active jehovah’s witness, told me yesterday of an experience currently doing its rounds amongst the witnesses in relation to cart witnessing.

there is a bridge called ‘the bridge’ which is a well known place for people committing suicide.

apparently the jws have been setting up there literature carts there for a while now and ever since they have there has been no more suicide attempts from the bridge.

Betheliesalot

For instance, consider the case of Walter, * a young man in São Paulo. He had no parents, no home, no privacy, no friends he could count on. To end his misery, Walter decided to jump off a bridge.

Just did a search on JW.org and found the made up story. The exact location is "a bridge " solved

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i was born as jehovah's witness.. i was baptized at the age of 10.. i was reproved at the age of 10.. i later served as a regular pioneer at the age of 16.. i woke up to the truth about the truth at the age of 17.. i attended my pioneer service school at the age of 18.. i disassociated from the jehovah's witness religion at the age of 19.. i went to higher education at the age of 21..

Betheliesalot

This is the perfect example of why 10 year olds should never get baptized.

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What is the strangest picture drawn or other you ever saw in a JW article?

by blownaway in

what is the strangest picture drawn or other you ever saw in a jw article?.

Betheliesalot

I 'll bet that most of the zombies in the Kingdumb hall today have never seen that magazine, and if they did see it, they would dismiss it as "old" truth. This was most all they emphasized in the 70,s and 80,s, so much so that I just knew it would be lie that would unravel them. How many left the truth from this teaching?

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Cart Anti-Witnessing - Best Approach I've found on YouTube So Far

by Vanderhoven7 in

a pastor lovingly approaches a jw.

granted the jw is not that that willing, knowledgeable or eloquent.

but he does succeed in getting her to open up.

Betheliesalot

Looks like the beach across from foodland in Pupukea on the North Shore, Oahu

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Cart work faces headwinds.

by lastmanstanding in

my little bethel bird has whispered in my ear some encouraging news.

it has been reported to the canadian branch that some witnesses doing cart work had police stop them from carting in public parks.

the direction sent to the southern ontario congregations is to cease carting until further notice.. this is no joke.. have a jw-free day..

Betheliesalot

I was at the nursing home recently and have witnessed first hand how they are getting their BS (bible study) hours in. They are wheeling quite a few into the lunch room and have a study there, talk about a captive audience, more than half have dementia and others can't communicate well.

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Direction to elders on handling rape

by purrpurr in

from the shepard the flock book.

"discernment is needed in considering claims.

of rape, taking into consideration such factors as the.

Betheliesalot

"Discernment"...the ability to judge well. An overused word by this cult

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Things which must shortly take place!

by PJ Delaney in

things that must shortly take place... the true understanding of the “generation” mentioned at matthew 24:34 may soon be revealed!.

please watch the one minute youtube video and read the explanation in the videos description.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n3i81uocm4k.

Betheliesalot

just a short list of those who predicted things that never happened and yours is prominent among these failures. Take a hard look and realized you've been hoodwinked and move on and enjoy your one life. This list is from Wikipedia as "end of world predictions" with many others left off to show a point that Mr Russell was not the first or the last.

1874	Charles Taze Russell	This Christian minister predicted the return of Jesus to occur in 1874, and after this date reinterpreted the prediction to say that Jesus had indeed returned in invisible form.	[88] [89]
1881	Mother Shipton (attrib.)	This 15th-century prophet was quoted as saying "The world to an end shall come, In eighteen hundred and eighty one" in a book published in 1862. In 1873 it was revealed to be a forgery; however, this did not stop some people from expecting the end.	[90]
1890	Wovoka	The founder of the Ghost Dance movement predicted in 1889 that the Millennium would occur in 1890.	[91]
1901	Catholic Apostolic Church	This church, founded in 1831, claimed that Jesus would return by the time the last of its 12 founding members died. The last member died in 1901.	[92]
23 Apr 1908	Michael Paget Baxter	The last of numerous apocalyptic predictions by this Anglican evangelist and author; this prediction was published in 1894.	[93]
1910	Camille Flammarion	Flammarion predicted that the 1910 appearance of Halley's Comet "would impregnate that atmosphere and possibly snuff out all life on the planet", but not the planet itself. "Comet pills" were sold to protect against toxic gases.	[83] [94]
1892–1911	Charles Piazzi Smyth	This pyramidologist concluded from his research on the dimensions of the Great Pyramid of Giza that the Second Coming would occur somewhere between 1892 and 1911.	[95]
1914	Charles Taze Russell	Russell said "...the battle of the great day of God Almighty... The date of the close of that 'battle' is definitely marked in Scripture as October 1914. It is already in progress, its beginning dating from October, 1874."	[96]
1915	John Chilembwe	This Baptist educator and leader of a rebellion in the British protectorate of Nyasaland predicted the Millennium would begin this year.	[91]
1918	International Bible Students Association	"Christendom shall be cut off and glorification of the Little Flock (The Church) in the Spring of 1918 A. D."	[97]
1920	International Bible Students Association	In 1918, Christendom would go down as a system to oblivion and be succeeded by revolutionary governments. God would "destroy the churches wholesale and the church members by the millions." Church members would "perish by the sword of war, revolution and anarchy." The dead would lie unburied. In 1920 all earthly governments would disappear, with worldwide anarchy prevailing.	[98]
13 Feb 1925	Margaret Rowen	According to this Seventh-Day Adventist, the angel Gabriel appeared before her in a vision and told her that the world would end at midnight on this date.	[99]
1926	Spencer Perceval	This British MP, who was one of the 12 apostles of the Catholic Apostolic Church, believed that the world was growing nearer to the Apocalypse due to what he viewed as the rampant immorality of the times in Europe.	[100]
Sep 1935	Wilbur Glenn Voliva	This evangelist announced that "the world is going to go 'puff' and disappear" in September 1935.	[101]
1936	Herbert W. Armstrong	The founder of the Worldwide Church of God told members of his church that the Rapture was to take place in 1936, and that only they would be saved. After the prophecy failed, he changed the date three more times.	[102]
1941	Jehovah's Witnesses	A prediction of the end from the Jehovah's Witnesses, a group which branched from the Bible Student movement.	[103]
1943	Herbert W. Armstrong	The first of three revised dates from Armstrong after his 1936 prediction failed to come true.	[102]
1947	John Ballou Newbrough	The author of Oahspe: A New Bible foresaw the destruction of all nations and the beginning of post-apocalyptic anarchy in this year.	[90]
21 Dec 1954	Dorothy Martin	The world was to be destroyed by terrible flooding on this date, claimed this leader of a UFO cult called Brotherhood of the Seven Rays. The fallout of the group after the prediction failed was the basis for the 1956 book When Prophecy Fails.	[104]
22 Apr 1959	Florence Houteff	The second prophet of the Branch Davidians predicted the apocalypse foretold in the Book of Revelation would proceed on this date. The failure of the prophecy led to the split of the sect into several subsects, the most prominent led by Benjamin and Lois Roden.	[105]
4 Feb 1962	Jeane Dixon, various Indian astrologers	Dixon predicted a planetary alignment on this day was to bring destruction to the world. Mass prayer meetings were held in India.	[106] [107]
20 Aug 1967	George Van Tassel	This day would mark the beginning of the third woe of the Apocalypse, during which the southeastern US would be destroyed by a Soviet nuclear attack, according to this UFO prophet, who claimed to have channeled an alien named Ashtar.	[108]
1967	Jim Jones	The founder of the People's Temple stated he had visions that a nuclear holocaust was to take place in 1967.	[109]
9 Aug 1969	George Williams	The founder of the Church of the Firstborn predicted the Second Coming of Christ would occur on this day.	[110]
1969	Charles Manson	Manson predicted that Helter skelter, an apocalyptic race war, would occur in 1969.	[111]
1972	Herbert W. Armstrong	The second of three revised dates from Armstrong after his 1936 and 1943 predictions failed to come true.	[102]
Jan 1974	David Berg	Berg, the leader of Children of God, predicted that there would be a colossal doomsday event heralded by Comet Kohoutek.	[112]
1975	Herbert W. Armstrong	Armstrong's fourth and final prediction.	[102]
1975	Jehovah's Witnesses	From 1966 on, Jehovah's Witnesses published articles which stated that the fall of 1975 would be 6000 years since man's creation, and suggested that Armageddon could be finished by then.	[113]
1976	Brahma Kumaris

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Anybody here still believe in the bible?

by Mel Morris in

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i'm a current bible student of jw's looking to chat with someone about biblical doctrine.

i'm not interested in talking with an apostate or a fader, i'm just a person looking for answers and wondered if there are any neutral voices in this forum who have good insights into the bible.

i currently talk with a couple of jw's on a personal level from my congregation and they are knowledgeable to a certain extent, but i dare not ask them certain questions because, as you know, the congregation has a culture of fear that impacts trust and openness, especially concerning biblical doctrine or the societies teachings.

Betheliesalot

Mel, hello??? gone??? adios, mel , mel