360 degree turn? That would be back where they started. I think you meant 180 degree turn....
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EU top court rules on JW blood transfusion case
by Corney inthe court of justice of the european union (cjeu) yesterday delivered the judgment (press release) on a request of the supreme court of latvia on whether domestic authorities are obliged to reimburse costs of cross-border medical treatment when the patient's decision to perform it in another european country was based on religious, not medical, grounds.
the opinion of advocate general (summarized here) is helpful in understanding the case.. the son of the applicant in the main proceedings had to have open heart surgery.
that operation was available in the latter’s member state of affiliation, latvia, but could not be carried out without a blood transfusion.
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New Lockdowns in The UK
by Slidin Fast inmaybe the borg was right all the time.
maybe armageddon is just an unassailable tide of boredom and november ennui (good word that).. i did a typo, nobember and nearly left it in.
or knobember.
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Nitty-Gritty
There have been cases where utterly healthy people in their 30's and 40's developed complications because of covid and died. There is no quarantee that if you are young and healthy covid won't kill you. So it IS a risk even for those in that category.
On top of that, those who have survived covid, may experience long lasting damage to their organs later. Not enough is known yet, but that is what I have been reading in the medical journals. So that is a risk too.
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2020-10-Publications Approved For Discard! (as of 2020-10-29)
by Atlantis in2020-10--publications approved for discard.. .
reply below and i'll meet you back at the pm breakroom for coffee and a link.. .
petra!.
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Nitty-Gritty
Yes please Petra, and thank you!
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What Do JWs Think Of Those Like Us That Have Left?
by minimus indo you think they feel bad for us!
envy us or basically don’t give a 💩?
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@stan livedeath
"Joined 6 years ago
wow..a real live pimi --been on here 6 years--posted 188 times...and still pimi" ?
whats your secret" ?
Hmmm...good question. I suppose it's because I am convinced about a few fundamental things, and the rest, like I said, I am just realistic about. No surprises, seen it, been there, done that.
"a real live PIMI" makes me feel like some exotic creature. There are more of us out there.....
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What Do JWs Think Of Those Like Us That Have Left?
by minimus indo you think they feel bad for us!
envy us or basically don’t give a 💩?
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@longlivetherenegades
"What I am trying to state is You are a PIMI that FILTERS "
I think I'm just being realistic, and I hope, fair.
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What Do JWs Think Of Those Like Us That Have Left?
by minimus indo you think they feel bad for us!
envy us or basically don’t give a 💩?
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@Longlivetherenegades
Sorry, I don't quite understand your questions...
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What Do JWs Think Of Those Like Us That Have Left?
by minimus indo you think they feel bad for us!
envy us or basically don’t give a 💩?
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@newleaver1
You might need to re-read spme of what I said.
In any case, to answer your question, this is not about shunning underage children. As you say, parents are responsible to bring their children up. So if a child is disfellowshipped, or the parent of an underage child is disfellowshipped, that does not interfere with normal familial relationship. The parents are still responsible to provide and take care of the child. (The same goes for the husband and wife, if one of them is disfellowshipped they are still husband and wife and act accordingly). But when the child is of legal age, and moves out, then the shunning may begin because the parents are no longer responsible for the young adult.
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2020-10-Elders Meet With Regular Pioneers-Special Pioneers-Field Missionaries!
by Atlantis inelders meet with regular pioneers, special pioneers, and field missionariesplease note: this meeting is to be conducted in december 2020 or january 2021 by two elders selected by the body of elders.. english letter and spanish letter.. .
reply below if you want me to meet you at your pm box with a link and some of these:.
https://www.magnificentchocolate.co.uk/range.
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Yes please Petra, and thank you!
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What Do JWs Think Of Those Like Us That Have Left?
by minimus indo you think they feel bad for us!
envy us or basically don’t give a 💩?
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@ truth_b_known
I agree, it is a bummer being raised in the religion, getting baptized as a minor, and then changing your mind later. I have my own views about shunning family, I feel it is up to each individual to decide and should not be dictated by anyone. The Bible is not clear about shunning with a one size fits all model.
Most JWs do not believe they are following man, or a man made organization. When you believe the Bible is from God, then the pattern for the Christian congregation and its principles are laid out there, and so you are following God. But if someone doesn’t believe the Bible is from God, then all that is irrelevant of course.
Yes, Anthony Morris has some strong opinions, and they are not always the opinion of everyone else.
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What Do JWs Think Of Those Like Us That Have Left?
by minimus indo you think they feel bad for us!
envy us or basically don’t give a 💩?
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I am assuming the question is for ex-jw to say what they think JWs think about ex-members.
But here is what a JW thinks, well it's one JW, I can't speak for the others. I am a pimi, and I find it fascinating and sad also. I find it fascinating because many of you (not all) used to be as convinced about what you believed was the true religion, as you are now about believing it is not. And believing in God, and now some are atheists. A complete 180 degree turn. The sad part is, this must be quite mentally taxing on some of you (not all) and especially if as a result you lose family to shunning in the process. I don't feel sorry for you, in the sense that we all make life choices, and usually when we want to gain something, we have to give something else up. That is a fact of life. But I am glad you have found a support system such as this forum here.
I don't think most of you are "mentally diseased", but you have merely made your choices, and see things differently now. I understand why some of you are angry for various reasons. I think if there was no shunning policy, most of you would be quite happy and would have no need to feel bitter or say nasty things about the WT. But there are some, who insist that other people see things their way. And even if there was no shunning policy there would be conflict because of that. But for the most part, you all just believe differently now. And you are entitled to that of course.