Please let us know what is going on with you now.
Pureheart
my wife and i met with 3 elders for a "judicial hearing".. our crime: simply put, was talking.
i showed a friend the un website where the wts was listed as an ngo which then led to a 2 hour discussion of various doubts that we both have had.
my wife also showed a friend the un thing but also discussed with her a first hand account of a pedophile cover-up that we knew about in our former congregation.
Please let us know what is going on with you now.
Pureheart
just a few loose ends and random thoughts for a select group of readers who have not been completely defrauded of your faith.. on the topic of stumbling: stumbling typically involves the mistakes of others whether real or perceived.
the reason jehovah does not consider any stumbling block as a valid reason for abandoning ones faith is because a persons faith should be in jehovah and christ in the first place.
and since god most assuredly did not let his worshipper down, what a fellow believer does or does not do should have no bearing upon our personal relationship with our heavenly father.
I do not think a majority of people have left the WTS because they had a problem with a brother or sister. I think the problem lies in the false prophecies, doctrine changes, and hypocrisy of the managements edicts, and behavior of some members being allowed that another commits and is DF'd for. The "stumbling" or is it awakening? comes from the realization that the proclamations originate from men and not from God.
Deu 18:20-22 leaves no doubt as to their identity.
Could not have said it better!!!!!!!!!!
Pureheart
something came across my desk, today indicating ibsa's association with the wcc.. i can't reveal what at this moment, as this would reveal my id.. however i know that there are posters out there who will verify my credentials.. what is needed is someone willing to carry out some digging in the info about the wcc.. let's just say that the scarlot beast isn't the only one to be ridden by the society.. once this is out in the open, more can be revealed,.
any info much appreciated.
regards to all, especially max and oz.
Hello Jemimah
This is off the subject of the thread here, but I have been asking this question for months and no one has been able to answer it to my understanding satisfaction.
What exactly happened at the WTS in NY to cause Brother Henchel not to continue on as President? What is he doing now? And what exactly is this so-called 3 co-orperations?
If anyone else have information on this subject, please share.
Pureheart
i intend to show with this article that the man of lawlessness is the anti-christ and that the activity of this composite person is what constitutes the abomination of desolation.
this shows the anti-christ and the man of lawlessness to be one and the same composite person.
we have seen that the anti-christ exalts himself {not appointed by god} then we learned that the man of lawlessness takes his seat in the temple of god.
Quote:
In point of fact have I not shown that the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses are the “Abomination of Desolation” spoken of by Daniel the Prophet?
That is a scarry thought. I will read the rest of your post when I have more time. What I have read seems to coinside with my own observations.
Pureheart
as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.
and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .
after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk
Does anyone have any information concerning any other religeous group in France that have been denied religeous freedoms?
due to your abuse of the privelege, all fun has been forbidden until further notice.
that is all..
Scary business you are in friend.
my wife and i met with 3 elders for a "judicial hearing".. our crime: simply put, was talking.
i showed a friend the un website where the wts was listed as an ngo which then led to a 2 hour discussion of various doubts that we both have had.
my wife also showed a friend the un thing but also discussed with her a first hand account of a pedophile cover-up that we knew about in our former congregation.
Dear Friend,
If you want to live at peace, leave this subject alone. You cannot win. If you fight against the Elders you will lose. They are protected under the constitution giving them the right to rule their congregation according to church law. Be quiet and serve Jehovah as you know He want to be served. "Be cautious as serpents, yet innocent as doves".
Most Sincerely,
Pureheart
from what i understand the wtbts is not affiliated with the un but the dpi (department of public information).
if i am right... you all are the morons.
if i am wrong the i am the moron.
To the member of the KKK. We certainly don't need your kind of hatred in here.
as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.
and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .
after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk
At the bottom of your post it says "edited". I would like to know what was edited.
If the post is true, it is very hypocrital on the part of the WTS, I will admit. Individual members are not as braindead as all of you seem to think.
everyone that has a problem with the wts and its members.. (romans 5:3-5) and not only that, but let us exult while in tribulations, since we know that tribulation produces endurance; 4 endurance, in turn, an approved condition; the approved condition, in turn, hope, 5 and the hope does not lead to disappointment; because the love of god has been poured out into our hearts through the holy spirit, which was given us.. (acts 5:29) in answer peter and the [other] apostles said: we must obey god as ruler rather than men.. (revelation 22:18,19) i am bearing witness to everyone that hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: if anyone makes an addition to these things, god will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; 19 and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, god will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things which are written about in this scroll.. anyone who seat himself in the seat of moses is condemned.
anyone that follows such a person is condemned.. anyone who change gods' word is condemned.. condemned by whom?
the almighty god jehovah.. get a life, and get over it, "all those that condemn"!!!!!!!!!!
(Matthew 23:2) “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses.(Matthew 23:2) Therefore what they tell you do, but do not do as they do.
The Religeous leaders in Jesus day were sticklers for the written law. They impelled the people to follow every letter, but did pretty much what they wanted. They were above the law of Moses. So Jesus was telling the people to do as they said, because of telling them to follow the law of Moses, but not as they did, because the Religeous leaders were not acting in harmony with the law.
Today if any man tells you to do something that is harmony with the scriptures do it. If it is not, Obey God over men no matter who they claim to be.