Posts by sarahsmile

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angels and women

by caroline77 in

i was told by jw's that angels came down to earth before the flood, and had children with women.. i have a question about this and would like the sort of answer a jw would give so that i can be ready for them when they come to my door.. if one third of god's angelic staff were banished to earth, are they doing this now?.

if not, what is stopping them?.

if so, where are all these half angel children?.

sarahsmile

Genesis 6

6 Now when men started to grow in number on the surface of the ground and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of the true God*+ began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they began taking as wives all whom they chose. 3 Then Jehovah said: “My spirit will not tolerate man indefinitely,+because he is only flesh.* Accordingly, his days will amount to 120 years.”+ 4 The Neph′i·lim* were on the earth in those days and afterward. During that time the sons of the true God continued to have relations with the daughters of men, and these bore sons to them. They were the mighty ones of old times, the men of fame.

As a JW I would say that son means angels. Job 1.

But I do not believe sons means angel in Gen 6:2 sons of true God.

Lots of luck because it is not just a JW teaching. I think in the 1900s churches that had the book of Enoch probably taught it as enlightenment.

Just like Russell qouted the book of Enoch claiming to be the bible! And JWs followed the belief.

No where in the bible that it says Angels took wives but it is in the Book of Enoch and Russell qouted it.

JWs wil show you Jude!

Good luck with that one!

Fernando Reply #7 Although those angels could escape death in the deluge by dematerializing, they were prevented from returning to their “original position” as holy spirit creatures enjoying the light of God’s counsel and approval. Rather, they have been reserved with “eternal bonds,”

Like WT would know as a matter of fact, decernment! LOL!

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Seattle Convention Videos

by exwhyzee in

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friends

this is the link to the website that was set up for the intl.

convention here in seattle the weekend before last.

we went to dinner in the city with family members afterward and saw a lot of old friends.

sarahsmile

"I have a feeling of having missed out or having been left out, or that maybe I've been too critical somehow, yet at the same time glad that I don't have to do all that anymore. "

Trust me, years from now your going to realize you did not miss out, left out, on anything.

Once you realize it most of the doctrines are lies the rest is dealing with reality.

Reality might not be as emtional crippling as living in a fake JW concept but at least it is every day life.

Granted there will be days your going to think your too critcal, how much love you had as a JWs, and surrounded by friends. Compared to now and living without as many people.

You need to realize that Peacful life as a JW has been playing in your mind for a very long time. The friends were part of the packaged deal.

All just made up.

We all set through hours of mind control talks and magazine filled our heads with safe peacful life style BECAUSE WE WERE JWS. Just like the video stated We are JWs!

Unfortunately it is a very hard one to overcome that fuzzy safe feeling. Just remember if one is not JWs off to destruction you go according to WT.

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Seattle Convention Videos

by exwhyzee in

jw
friends

this is the link to the website that was set up for the intl.

convention here in seattle the weekend before last.

we went to dinner in the city with family members afterward and saw a lot of old friends.

sarahsmile

What does the beautiful Washington scenery have to do with serving Jehovah. It is like using unhealthy elderly! Jesus never said the unhealthy were to preach or the elderly. Unhealthy guy and his wife was worried about serving Jehovah!

If they were so WORRIED about serving God they would not feel the need to hand out brochures and books other than the bible!

Preaching the good news was about the apostles bowing down and giving ALL POWER AND AUTHORITY over to Jesus. ALL power and authority was given to Jesus so preach Jesus make deciples of Jesus followers. Christians came after Jehovah,YHWH, preachers.

Witness to Jehovah would be Old Testament.

Also, there is no such thing as spiritual Israelites. It is made up.

The bottom bible says to not WORRY about wars and reports of war, end time events.

It sad to see elderly couple wasting their last years handing out brochures.

It is a habit and for some an addiction. Never can do enough is just a sad addiction.

There should be worldwide AA meetings for anyone suffering from JW guilt.

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We are an Evil Aposta-Family

by Skinnedsheep in

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in the last 6 months my family and i have stopped attending cold turkey.

it is incredible to me to see how our so called friends have dropped us like we were a snake covered in spiders.

we actually havent really said anything to anybody about why we stopped.

sarahsmile

I know it is hard at times but at least you did the right thing by getting out!

Your children hopefully are young enough to forget the JW association and develop school friends.

Now you can celibrate birthdays and holidays.

Ignore the thinking and calling yourself names because life keeps moving.

Good job!

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Do You Ever Think That You "Loved" Jehovah God?

by minimus in

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i really wonder about that.

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just like they say in prayers, that they "love" the governing body---do they really??

sarahsmile

I still love the Almighty Father and it is ok that some refer him as Jehovah.

It does not make the WT Truth because they abused the name.

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I know 2 of the Elders on the Ray Franz JC

by James Jackson in

when i read coc, i was stunned that the 2 elders (theotis french & rob dibble) were on ray franz judcial committee.

i have known these men for over 20 years having done rbc and convention work with them.

they are still elders today which means they were in their early 30's(which is unheard of for a case of this importance to have inexperienced elders to sit on) on this committee.. without revealing myself, i have never tried(but have wanted to), ask them about their on having to judge a former gb member.. then out of the blue, about a year ago, i was mentioning how hard it is trying to get younger ones to volunteer to one of these elders, and he says"this is nothing compared to to sitting on the committee that had to disfellowship ray franz".

sarahsmile

Yes, most elders do not explain doctrains at JC meetings in fear of error. They make sure they have a WT article ready for the receiver to read during reinstatement meetings.

Elders make promises and slip up on deceptions and lies.

When they df someone they quote a scripture and give the judgement then go home!

Ray Franze would already know and expect the out come where as some are devastated.

In twenty years of knowing this elder,how many delibrate lies did you catch? How many worship this elder from afar?

As far as that scripture it is a given that anyone can pick and choose who to eat with. Rutherford was a greedy drunk and a railer! Yet many made him into a mini god which is idolatry. KH are pyramids schemes the same thing goes on in KH,elders are demi gods.

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Am I a bad person for wishing this??

by quellycatface in

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i have suffered with menopausal symptoms for a few years now.

hot flushes and facial sweating, the most noticeable to others.. a sister i knew used to laugh and pretty much, mock me.

i used to say "you wait till you get them" , without being nasty.. i seriously hope she suffers.

sarahsmile

WT does not attract normal people! That is a good example how pathetic and petty the women are toward others! Many so called "sisters" are wanting bull shit attention,and will belittle anyone along the way to meet their emtional needs!

Your probably not the only one who walked away from this ladies rudeness feeling like you just wanted to slap her down. Do not think too much about it but next time call her out by letting her know that her attitude is rude!

I have been in several churches, and so far the most dysfuntional group toward fellow members are the JWs. Hands up!

I can assume because:

Other churches share so everyone knows what is going on with another member. Women are doing things together during the week so they are not emotionally starved for attention.

I bet not one sister talked with you as to why this lady behaved this way?

Jehovahs Witnesses are taught not to gossip. We were taught to PUT UP WITH ONE ANOTHER including behavior because everyone is imperfect and one does not know what the individual is going through in their personal life.

Catch 22:

If you asked another sister why sister was rude most likely you would get dinged for gossiping! Your hurt so someone hurts you more!

Perhaps someone over heard the conversation she/he can not help you understand due to gossiping rule! Instead of helping they are worried about becoming "Marked" for for life as a trouble maker who gossips.

Churches:

I have not been in other churches who take helpful gossip as a sin!

Healthy ladies would want to help you understand. Churches have womens groups so women can bond! Most ladies would want to help you through her rude behavior yet maintain a healthy friendship with Ms.Rude lady.

Your Health Issues:

Hopefully, your hot flashes might get easier mine did. I had two surgeries for endometriosis and they were like c sections.

A little personal history: I grew up with doctors and elders stating that I would die during any operation! I survived the elders and petty sisters stigmas. Doctors were afraid to operate without blood. I heard lots of rude comments toward other ladies. I survived the elders manipulation and doctors fears!

Bad person:

Wishful thinking, God already did that one :-)

Hope that helps!

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Something Big is Coming...

by notsurewheretogo in

the annual meeting of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will be in october 2014.. .. in november 2013, just after the last one they published this now famous statement in the 15th of november 2013 watchtower page 16 paragraph 17 says:.

"at that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.".

sarahsmile

Yeap, something big!

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Are Jdubs going to put the elderly out to pasture with JW.org?

by Coffee House Girl in

it will be interesting to see how things play out...but one example which got me to thinking about this is my mother.

my mom is a 76 year old regular pioneer (she is one of those who believes that you are "nothing" if you are not a pioneer...the position is everything)-.

i am moving in two weeks to go to grad school, so i have been trying to go out to visit...say goodbye...do things for her before i leave.

sarahsmile

Elderly probably place more magazines and books.

I think they will keep her as a faithful pioneer.

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Mrs. Russell's Tract - Anyone Seen It?

by Freedom77 in

i was just looking over this list of wt lies http://hourglass2.com/historical/the-list/list7_03.htm and found the following, circa 1906, in the middle of a self-justification by ct russell about his ex-wife:.

by 1903 mrs. russell had laid by in bank a little sum of money which evidently was consecrated to the injury of her husband.

the opportune time for its use came, and with it she published a new kind of tract .. to misrepresent me, to slander me.

sarahsmile

Today they would be cleaning out the toilets!

Losers is way too mild!

Bat shit crazy stuff! Yeah and the JWs think that the "stones would surely cry out if it were not for Russell!" puke.

Now who in their bat shit crazy minds could believe that one! Shhhh,Jehovahs Witnesses!

I saw that years ago in the Proclaimers Book! I asked some elders about it and they believed it!