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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

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  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  iXav

  If they were law abiding the police wouldn’t be involved in the first place.
  

  If they were law abiding citizens the police wouldn't have a job. LOL

  The criminals should be held to a higher standard
  

  No comment
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  iXav

  IX, do you think we are inherently racist ??
  

  Who is we?
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  iXav

  You can’t complain that you are affected by systemic racism while you are accepting the fruits of affirmative action.
  

  Yes you can. The same reason you work for a company were you get paid good $$$ and you still bitch about the working conditions. I could get more $$$ and work less hours and my boss doesn't appreciate my contribution. Basically, you are saying, I benefit from the system but the system can be improved
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  iXav

  Your thinking is the first person you should examine with a fine tooth comb is the police “no matter how the criminal behaves”. That’s ludicrous! Criminal points a gun to the cops and you should examine the police?? Examine the lawbreaker and if he happens to be black don’t use his color as the reason to attack law enforcement.
  

  Yes, the police are in a position of relative authority and they should be held to a higher standard and that should not even be a discussion.

  "Criminal points a gun to the cops and you should examine the police??"

  Nope, wrong discussion. Criminal points a gun at the police, officer retaliates with deadly force and kills criminal. There should be a post mortem/report of what happened and why deadly force was used. Criminal is dead so guess who gets to right the report and submit video evidence, the police. Part of the reporting is holding the office to a higher standard and making sure he followed procedure. It also serves at bases to improve policing and better train the officer. Why is that such an issue?
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  2. 
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  iXav

  If you take this as evidence of a "systemic problem" then each crime committed by individuals of any race is equally evidence of a "systemic problem", isn't it?
  

  The police is an institution which makes it easier to attribute a system to their operations. There are procedures in place with regards to police when it comes to the the rules of engagement. Individual behavior is not an institution and we can't just attribute "systemic problem".
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  iXav

  And yes, it's systemically racist even if it might also be money-grabbing as well. How does "oh, they are corrupt in other ways too!" alter the fact that they judge people based on their race?
  

  It doesn't alter it in anyway at all. The result of what you are seeing at Universities today is a result of a racist system that the system created and the same system decided to fix by creating another discriminatory system(Affirmative Action I am looking at you. ).
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  iXav

  What about a review of the criminals getting into trouble or getting killed?? Instead of just focusing on how horrible the police are why not center on why are these people always being the “victims”?
  

  That doesn't make sense. If you want to review, you need to to check if the police followed procedure no matter how the criminal behaves. You shouldn't allow the police the hide evidence and you need to act swiftly and not wait for judges to order the police to release video evidence.

  There is a situation at the moment where an elderly lady with dementia was assaulted by the police and that happened apparently last year. It is now only making the rounds after a judge ordered the release of the evidence. That is a systemic problem when the police cannot even weed out the so called bad apples within their midst.
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  iXav

  Is it systemic racism when cops shoot a black man?? A black man resists arrest, goes for a weapon to use against the police and is shot in the process. Is this proof of systemic racism? Some say absolutely! If he were entitled as a white man, he’d still be alive.
  

  I think that answer is obvious even if people like to spin it otherwise. When people scream racism for everything, it muddles the water for real racism. However, it doesn't deflect from the fact that System Racism is a thing.
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  iXav

  IMO, "Systemic Racism" is where a system treats people of a certain race differently because of their race, usually disadvantaging one group and advantaging another.

  @minimus, the above shows a different definition.

  The only documented and approved systemically racist system I can think of right now is college admissions, which favours black candidates mostly at the expense of asian candidates.
  

  College admission is a good example, where everyone says that admission should be based on merit and they take the issue of Asians being discriminated against because Blacks, Latinos etc get affirmative action and automatically get a place even when they don't have the same grades. There was a court case about this and the judge sided with university of Harvard. Basically Harvard said they use a holistic approach to admission and not just grades(LOL). Is this Harvard university moving the goal post?

  The problem with grade based/merit only approach to University admission is that it is not applied equally. There is something called legacy admission which benefits students whose parent went to the same university. It also benefits students whose parents have donated a nice chunk of change $$$$ to the university.

  Narrowing your comment to black students only benefiting from a systemic problem doesn't cut it.

  There are those who get admission because they are great at Football but don't have necessarily the best academic grades. What do you do with them? Are you going to put an average size Asian with excellent grades in your basketball team when you want someone like Shaquille O'neil to dunk on the opponent? That is another reason why grade/merit based admission doesn't take into account everything.
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  iXav

  It’s all stratification of society and putting a label on an individual. Is it systemic? Maybe, maybe not

  Stratification will imply that it is systemic