absolutely disgusting!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba.
Now this is the sort of downloaded content they should be showing householders, especially female ones. It would help people get a more accurate view of the WT.
Saintbertholdt, make sure you count this video on your new fs report! (In fact, count a video showing for everyone who visits this thread after your post. We do want to have an accurate record!)
Bobcat
i saw this on ex jw reddit:"this may not be news to you but it was to me.
forgive me if this has already been posted before.
it came from a reliable source working on the warwick project.. wallkill bethel had broken ground and laid the foundation for a new recreation building.
Depending on the type of foundation, they should be able to clean the dirt off it and use it in the future.
That's what Saddam thought he would do with his MiG-25s :)
Bobcat
i saw this on ex jw reddit:"this may not be news to you but it was to me.
forgive me if this has already been posted before.
it came from a reliable source working on the warwick project.. wallkill bethel had broken ground and laid the foundation for a new recreation building.
IL:
I don't have any more info to add, so I'm also waiting to hear if anyone else does.
Having said that, the story, if true, gives me the sense that they see a rather intense financial difficulty looming for them.
Bobcat
1914the turning point in history.
30 from the human standpoint, the world troubles and global wars foretold in the bible were far from the thinking of the pre-1914 world.
german statesman konrad adenauer said: thoughts and pictures come to my mind, .
berrygerry:
I started a thread (here) with almost the identical name back in February 2015 ... no wait, 2014 (my, how time flies!).
It was based on a comparison of the idea of 1914 being the ultimate turning point in history (per the WT) versus what Paul said in Acts 17:30, 31.
Bobcat
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plrw9u-n1z2m8peenfmbdxmvbdkum0ce1n.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uppgsfl6o5k.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9j8ivkmkvk.
That 3rd speaker, who I think is Lett. He has the strangest facial contortions, hard to watch.
He reminds me somewhat of Red Skelton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U7O9vqsYPs
Bobcat
who were your past circuit overseers?
i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).
ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).
James Jack:
Thomas Rucker - Stilled talked about in this area after leaving here 2 years ago. A real people person
I agree to. Larry & Susie were also very good. Recently retired from CO work now. I imagine Tom must also be near retirement too.
Most of the new ones I see seem to be pure company men. Some have their good points, yet, married to the bOrg, thru and thru.
Bobcat
who were your past circuit overseers?
i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).
ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).
Tom Rucker
Larry and Susie King
Bobcat
i have to admit, aside from the "choose your own" doctrine aspect, the video was pretty well made.
well, for the wtbts.
they are behind the mormons and the lds, but it wasn't too bad.
Data, one of the things that stood out to me was the statement near the beginning of part 1, and repeated near the end of part 2, that it was 'necessary to believe that JWs had the truth' (or that 'these events about Jesus proved that JWs had the truth.')
Did you notice that also? There were statements that Jesus' miracles gave proof to his Messiah-ship (is that a word?). And these fit in with the 2 part video. But the statements that 'JWs have the truth' (regardless of the veracity of such statements) - they were like, out of nowhere. Nothing in the videos had anything to do with JWs.
These statements seemed to be inserted as a sort of audio subliminal messaging. There was no time to analyze the statements as to what they had to do with the videos (which, in fact, they had nothing to do with them).
Other than that, like you said, the videos were pretty well done. Seeing Jesus cry (in connection with Lazarus' death), and seeing him hug his disciples before he left earth were quite moving scenes.
Bobcat
since waking up i find i am bridling at being called 'sister'.
but it feels like an identity that is being forced on me.. i feel like shouting "i have a name you know!".
it is just me or does anyone else recognise this?.
I checked a Greek concordance (for the NT) on the use of "brother(s)" (Greek adelphos, Strong's # 80). Curiously enough, of the 343 uses of the word in the NT there aren't any examples of a first person address, "brother so-and-so," except one: Acts 9:17 (and Acts 22:13, which is Paul's retelling of what Ananias said in 9:17).
But the example in Acts 9:17 may have been Ananias' timid/careful approach to someone (Saul) that he knew to be a cruel persecutor (compare Acts 9:10-17). So it is a sort of one-off.
Fellow Christians, fellow countrymen and family are otherwise all spoken of, or addressed, on various occasions as "brother(s)" without any name added.
The norm for direct address to an individual was to speak to them using their name ("first name" in modern lingo).
I also admit to feeling odd being referred to in public (away from the KH) as "Brother Last-name." It makes me feel like people will think I live in a monastery. Yet it is so ingrained. There is a sister who recently started working where I work, She started calling me "Brother Last-name" (at work) but I told her just call me "Bobcat." Now she doesn't call me anything. She talks to me, but she doesn't address me in any way. It is almost like she isn't able to refer to me in any way except "Brother Last-name."
Bobcat
there's been quite a number newspaper articles quoted over the past week, but i would recommend this as a good summary of the first three days of the royal commission hearing in australia - complete with some scathing commentary.. apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, but have not seen this posted previously.. https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2015/08/01/royal-commission-examines-jehovah-witnesses-cover/14383512002194.
just one thing that is not quite right is that the article refers to joe bello as a narrogin elder.
the assualts took place while the victim was part of the narrogin congregation.
