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  WT rules about forgiving a cheating spouse

  by Addison0998 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone else think it’s weird and controlling the organization says if your mate commits adultry, and then you have sex with them, you are not free to remarry again, since this means you forgave them.

  the bible never mentions anything about this.

  it’s so weird they have a say about what goes on behind closed doors of two people who are still legally married.

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  Bobcat

  Hi Addison,

  This reminded me of the inconsistency of WT logic. For example, if an elder's child who lives at home gets DFed, the BOE is supposed to review that elder's qualifications to see whether he still qualifies to serve as an elder.

  In one case I knew of, an elder's at home child got DFed. The BOE continued using the elder for some 5 months before the CO ordered them to meet with the elder to review him. In my mind the BOE did the same thing as the situation you described, and, logically, that should have cancelled out any review of the elder's qualifications. By continuing to use the elder for five months, their actions in effect said that the elder was still qualified to serve as an elder. But they don't see it that way.

  And try using that example in the marriage infidelity example you gave. You won't get any where with the elders. Logic and fairness never win over following WT rules.
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  Armageddon started...

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  just joking i really don't think so...but the situation in syria is pretty worrisome...just hearing the news that france and great britain are attacking with cruise missiles in 72 hours.

  i mean assad is not gonna gasify his adversaries when he almost won the civil war.

  trump too suspended a very important trip to the latinoamerican presidents summit in peru, just to 'oversee the american response to syria.

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  Bobcat

  So maybe the Russians are really weak.

  Not militarily, especially in a regional setting. If the US and Russia get to shooting at one another, regardless of who comes out ahead (if anyone), the US will get its nose bloodied. And that in itself may be very shocking to the US. The Russians are quite capable of doing that.

  I wonder how the US public would deal with the sudden news of a sunken carrier or some other surface ships and maybe several thousand dead and wounded sailors from a single engagement? It would be a stunning blow to the public's perception of the US as the lone superpower.

  Now whether Putin is willing to cross that line remains to be seen. I personally think he has reached the point, mentally, to take that step. And if he does, I think China will turn out to be a big ally for him. China could prevent the US from being able to concentrate forces in the Middle East by making threatening moves in the Pacific.

  I don't see the US coming out ahead in this unless Putin simply backs off and lets the US have its way. But I just don't see that happening. Putin and the Russians are getting fed up with the US. It is a very volatile situation.
  
  
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  Summary of WT Foundation Quotes

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower, november 1, 1922, pp.332-337.

  do you believe that the king of glory is present, and has been since 1874?… this is the day of all days.

  behold, the king reigns!

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  Bobcat

  Much thanks Doug for the additional information.
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  Publisher ID: leaked video clip 3 of 4

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― george orwell, 1984 this video is leaked in interest of human dignity; you deserve to know who is keeping personal data and how they plan to expand their nets.

  open to your comments... https://youtu.be/6hew6q7g1qs

  [videos 1 to 4 leaked as own posts, with specific comments for each video].

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  Bobcat

  This is interesting. From what he said and what the screen shows this might put all those brothers out of business who make computer programs to schedule the various meetings and duties. (A long time ago I made a program for the TMS - think DOS for how long ago.)

  If so, then, the database is going to have to keep far more information than just 'name, rank, and serial number.' It will have to have fields/tables for whether one is an elder, ms, pioneer, etc.
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  Summary of WT Foundation Quotes

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower, november 1, 1922, pp.332-337.

  do you believe that the king of glory is present, and has been since 1874?… this is the day of all days.

  behold, the king reigns!

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  Bobcat

  Hi Vanderhoven7,

  On that first quote, I recognize the "Advertise . . ." part, but did not realize the quote included "1874" as part of it. The WT never quotes the 1874 part when they quote the "advertise, advertise, advertise" part.

  Thanks for the list of 'famous last words.'
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  Armageddon started...

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  just joking i really don't think so...but the situation in syria is pretty worrisome...just hearing the news that france and great britain are attacking with cruise missiles in 72 hours.

  i mean assad is not gonna gasify his adversaries when he almost won the civil war.

  trump too suspended a very important trip to the latinoamerican presidents summit in peru, just to 'oversee the american response to syria.

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  Bobcat

  To me, what will be really interesting is what kind of defense Russia puts up for Syria against any sort of cruise missile and aerial assault. Russia has been claiming to have some very effective SAM and EW capability in place.

  If there was an assault against Syria and suppose Russia effectively blunted it, there could be a significant shift in how the world views Russia vis-a-vis the West, and especially the US. On the other hand, if the strike was effective, Putin's claims about his new weapons systems (and thus his reputation) would take a hit.

  Of course, the possibility of some sort of escalation between the West and Russia is also worrisome.
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  Hotdog "rumour" - need verification

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in view of the recent jw broadcast warning about "rumours", i wanted to verify what has repeatedly been spouted by a certain am3:.

  "i saw bodies resembling human hotdogs" (or words to that effect).

  i have no idea where to begin, so perhaps some of you across the pond in usa may know some useful search tools?

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  Bobcat

  Try this link:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0dI9OY_S4
  
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  Another JDub fairy tail

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  now that the talks for this summer's conventions are available online i read through them and they could have been written in the early 70's...same thing no changes.. talk #50 "future events will require courage - the final test" illustrates how jdubs have lost so many brain cells by studying the watchtower and going to meetings that they will not even think about the reasonableness of what the speaker will be saying....they will just be a crowd of bobbleheads.. the outline says "at the end of christ's thousand year reign, satan will be released "for a little while".

  the devil will convince some perfect humans to rebel.

  " my question is how many is some?

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  Bobcat

  Thank you Sour Grapes.
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  Another JDub fairy tail

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  now that the talks for this summer's conventions are available online i read through them and they could have been written in the early 70's...same thing no changes.. talk #50 "future events will require courage - the final test" illustrates how jdubs have lost so many brain cells by studying the watchtower and going to meetings that they will not even think about the reasonableness of what the speaker will be saying....they will just be a crowd of bobbleheads.. the outline says "at the end of christ's thousand year reign, satan will be released "for a little while".

  the devil will convince some perfect humans to rebel.

  " my question is how many is some?

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  Bobcat

  Is there a link to them? (the outlines) I'd like to take a gander. Thanks in advance.
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  Two virgin births in the Bible, who knew?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the famous verse from mathew chapter 1 verse 23 i believe the writer proclaims that mary a virgin was going to give birth to a son he would be called emmanuel.

  he even stated this was to fulfill a prophecy.

  thats prophecy is in isaiah chapter 7:14. .

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  Bobcat

  Hi Cg,

  Here is a post I made on another site where I included comments about Mt 1;23 from the NICNT-Matthew commentary. Look a little ways down in the post where Matthew 1:23 is cited for the part that is pertinent to that verse.

  Hope your Saturday has been good. I'm sitting here and watching a documentary on Hitler and WWII on NGTV.