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  A non-Witnes who accepts 607 BC?

  by careful in

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  an eyebrow raiser to be sure.

  i can understand the clergyman being so baptist that he'd still use the name jehovah since it was popular in english and german churches for a long time during and after the reformation, but 607?.

  see ¶ 6 under the heading "the historicity of the book of daniel".

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  Hey Earnest,

  Thanks very much for that research! I appreciate the detail and the effort.
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  A non-Witnes who accepts 607 BC?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  an eyebrow raiser to be sure.

  i can understand the clergyman being so baptist that he'd still use the name jehovah since it was popular in english and german churches for a long time during and after the reformation, but 607?.

  see ¶ 6 under the heading "the historicity of the book of daniel".

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  Thanks Earnest and dropoffyourkeylee.

  So, it seems that somewhere along the way the WT changed 606 into Nebuchadnezzar's 18th year. And then 606 into 607.
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  A non-Witnes who accepts 607 BC?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  an eyebrow raiser to be sure.

  i can understand the clergyman being so baptist that he'd still use the name jehovah since it was popular in english and german churches for a long time during and after the reformation, but 607?.

  see ¶ 6 under the heading "the historicity of the book of daniel".

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  The J N Darby translation also has 606 as the year for Jerusalem's fall. I wonder what led them (Miller, Darby, Brown, etc) to think 606 was the year? Was that the state of archaeology back them?

  Just curious. Edwin Thiele and COJ have me convinced on 587/6. But it would be interesting to know what made some think 606 was the year.
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  What really happened around 1918 when WT leaders were imprisoned?

  by dubstepped in

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  i had never thought about this until just now when i saw that nathan natas posted some early tract from rutherford, and it made me think back to what little i could remember of the history i was taught.

  i now know that in most cases the dubs will spin stories in their favor.

  so i'm now assuming i was told some fictitious story about what happened when the leaders were thrown in prison and things looked bleak for the cult way back when.

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  EXJW Fifth Interviews Jason Wynne - Founder of AvoidJW.org

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bahseeaoof8.

  simply fabulous.

  ps.

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  2018 Convention movie: Jonah.... oh my god it's bad......!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so, once again the society has produced a cringe-worthy, spew-inducing piece of "cinema".. i don't recognise this religion anymore...... enjoy this review:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f0tovqkfem.

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  Does this make any sense “according to the number of the sons of Israel” ?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  how does god dividing humankind and fixing the boundaries of the peoples “according to the number of the sons of israel” make any sense if the nation of israel did not even exist yet?

  (genesis 10) "it makes little sense for god, shortly after he dispersed the nations at babel, to have based the number of geographical regions on the earth on the family size of israel, especially since there was no jewish race at the time (genesis 10 table of nations).

  this problem is compounded when one considers deuteronomy 32:9. what logical correlation was moses making when he wrote in verse 8 that god "set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of israel" and then made the concluding observation in verse 9 that "the lord's portion is his people, jacob his allotted inheritance" (niv)?

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  Brilliant Medical Advice from the Slave

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  not sure where i picked this up:.

  self explanatory science and medical advice from the faithful and brilliant servant class in brooklyn________________________________________thomas edison, the inventor and electrician, of phonograph and telephone fame, has been experimenting with the new light "x-rays.

  " and has succeeded in taking a photograph through oak eight inches thick.

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  Knorr on 1914: "I don't know." - Mouthy Alert!

  by compound complex in

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  dear mouthy and other denounced ones,.

  you may find this double standard $%^@#@*&!

  "in 1975, knorr made a remarkable and candid statement to the governing body, which confirmed his growing disillusionment until his death two years later: ["]'"there are some things i know --- i know that jehovah is god, that christ jesus is his son, that he gave his life as a ransom for us, that there is a resurrection.

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  bttt - Thanks CoCo for this thread!
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  The Watchtower Flip-Flop Book!

  by Atlantis in

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  the watchtower flip flop book contains two quotes where the watchtowerincludes itself as a religious cult.

  and a quote showing that "newlight" is something other religious teachers practice.

  the watchtowerflip flop book contains 1,654 pages of quotes and scans of nearlyevery flip flop you can imagine.the golden age, april 25th, 1923"and as we let our light shine we must not forget to be courteous,kind, tolerant and sympathetic toward our fellows.

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  Thanks, Atlantis!