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  "Romans" added to NWT Study Bible, and one omission.

  by Wonderment in

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  rom.

  14:1 says: "welcome the man having weaknesses in his faith, but do not pass judgment on differing opinions.

  " (italics added.).

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  Bobcat

  This passage reminded me of an experience.

  A few years ago, one of the elders in our KH gave a Sunday talk and in it he was discussing how in the churches Christmas and Easter are held as the most important days of the year. He said, 'in contrast, "we" (meaning JWs) hold Nisan 14 as the most important day of the year.' Of course, his point was that JWs have it right.

  After the talk, I approached him and brought up that part of the talk and told him that he only presented two sides of the argument. That there was a third viewpoint he did not mention. When he looked at me wondering what I was referring to, I told him he would find the third view in Romans 14:5 (which is part of the same context with Rom 14:1).

  I never got a reply from him, but several other standing around promptly opened their Bibles to see what I was referring to. None of them ever said anything to me about it afterward either.
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  2019 Elders Manual and a Whole Lot More!

  by Atlantis in

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  single zipped folderhttps://we.tl/t-uiqj87wimd.

  2019-02-02-musical preludeshttps://we.tl/t-zyfpnodizd.

  s-21-e congregation's publisher record (2018-12).pdfhttps://we.tl/t-i9qamx3s0q.

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  Thank you Atlantis!
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  Evidence of a form of telepathy, science and personal experiences.

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  i believe in rational explanations for everything, whether they are understood yet or not.

  medication used to be considered 'magic' until understood how it worked.

  on the subject of telepathy, for me it's very subtle but has happened many times.

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  Well, WYDFme, "To each his own." I remain open to the possibilities.
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  Anyone every heard anything about your own blood?

  by Tobyjones262 in

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  i was wondering if there was any policy from the cult about your own blood in you cut your finger and put it in your mouth out of reflex ect.

  what if any is the position of this?

  i always thought the amount of blood is not the real issue, even a drop would be a sin?.

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  The ARJWB website has a copy of a DPA that was briefly handed out that allowed autologous blood transfusions. JWFacts might have a copy of this also. The few forms that were handed out were quickly recalled. I'm thinking this happened around the time of the 911 incident in New York.

  They might also have WT references to one's own blood.
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  Evidence of a form of telepathy, science and personal experiences.

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. social
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  i believe in rational explanations for everything, whether they are understood yet or not.

  medication used to be considered 'magic' until understood how it worked.

  on the subject of telepathy, for me it's very subtle but has happened many times.

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  Bobcat

  Here is a fascinating article on QM being used intentionally for communication in the real world. "There is nothing new under the sun." And, "Have you seen something and said, 'See, this is new.' It has already had existence for time indefinite." (Qoheleth)
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  Evidence of a form of telepathy, science and personal experiences.

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. social
  2. current

  i believe in rational explanations for everything, whether they are understood yet or not.

  medication used to be considered 'magic' until understood how it worked.

  on the subject of telepathy, for me it's very subtle but has happened many times.

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  IT ONLY IS RELATIVE AND HAS MEANING IN THE QUANTUM WORLD!!!!!

  There is a saying among quantum physicists that anyone who claims to understand quantum physics doesn't fully understand it yet.

  As I pointed out in my post above, I was simply wondering if "some of these things" might, in fact, have some basis in quantum entanglement. The idea of quantum effects in the macro world is a topic of study by some physicists: Here, for example.

  Having said that, I certainly don't rule out coincidence in many cases. Nor am I saying quantum physics explains everything (although, QM did lead to the 'theory of everything' ).

  Incidentally, here was an interesting thread from some years ago.
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  Evidence of a form of telepathy, science and personal experiences.

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. social
  2. current

  i believe in rational explanations for everything, whether they are understood yet or not.

  medication used to be considered 'magic' until understood how it worked.

  on the subject of telepathy, for me it's very subtle but has happened many times.

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  I wonder if some of these things can be attributed to quantum entanglement. It would put a plausible 'scientific' explanation on it, even if not fully understood. Just hypothesizing, but at the quantum level the entanglement could be between both non-living things and living persons.

  Perhaps some are more attuned to or sensitive to its effects than others, just like sometimes blind persons are more attuned to sound and other things than seeing persons are.
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  Since when does a slave appoint itself over anything???

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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  at matthew 24:45, where jesus discussed the faithful and discreet slave, he gave only two identifying features of that slave.

  (1) providing the master’s domestics food at the proper time; and, (2) after having done so, being appointed by the master himself over all the master’s belongings.. since current watchtower teaching is that the appointment over all the master’s belongings is yet future and that such appointment is to be made by the master himself, how does the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses account for the fact that it has preemptively identified itself as that faithful and discreet slave?.

  surely there remains among believing jws some who can discern the problem with this teaching!

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  Maybe Eccl 10:5-7
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  Since when does a slave appoint itself over anything???

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at matthew 24:45, where jesus discussed the faithful and discreet slave, he gave only two identifying features of that slave.

  (1) providing the master’s domestics food at the proper time; and, (2) after having done so, being appointed by the master himself over all the master’s belongings.. since current watchtower teaching is that the appointment over all the master’s belongings is yet future and that such appointment is to be made by the master himself, how does the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses account for the fact that it has preemptively identified itself as that faithful and discreet slave?.

  surely there remains among believing jws some who can discern the problem with this teaching!

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  RK, here is a post that has links to a good bit of research I have done on this parable (in case it is of any interest to you.).

  There are numerous incongruities in the WT's explanation of that parable. For example, Jesus goes away at his death, with the promise of a return. But the WT explanation requires Jesus to return again in 1919 and go away again with a promise of yet another return.

  The real and only reason for their present interpretation of this parable is that it suits them at the present time. The increase in Memorial partakers in recent times required them to react. They don't mind if most of the 'anointed' are already dead. But when there come to be many of them still alive they have to insulate themselves and their ruling authority.
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  Infiltrated Elders?

  by john.prestor in

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  so i'm watching john cedars commentary on the annual meeting from this last october, and at one point he shows a clip of garrett loesch talking about the struggles jehovah's witnesses faced decades before in the soviet union.

  he claimed that police officers, maybe the kgb, infiltrated congregations which met in secret by studying with jehovah's witnesses, getting baptized, and then working their way up to becoming elders.

  ceders jokes that this shows what kind of role holy spirit actually plays within body of elders, but another interpretation came to my mind just now.

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