However, this baptism was limited to comparatively few
Until one reads Acts 2:38, 39. (Also Jn 1:12; 3:3, 5)
Posts by Bobcat
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7The Anointed fight during the memorial celebration?
by waton inthe last wt magazine on the memorial asserts, that the kingdom covenant was the prime subject of the solemn last supper bread and wine ceremony.
here was the sobering passing of the bread of wine, symbolizing the new covenant, forgiveness of sins for all.
here was the symbolic undoing of the talking snake's viles, the reversal of the misery and death of billions, but .
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1914 Questions
by sweetyj inim not sure if this has already been asked here but i have some questions about 1914. if jesus arrived "invisibly" in the year 1914 why do the anointed partake of the emblems?
why didn't they stop in 1914?.
if jesus is ruling in heaven then why are the anointed still on earth?
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If it is any help, I have a thread (here - off site) where I have been amassing references to "the last days" in the NT. For the WT, 1914 is the start of the last days. In the NT, Jesus' first advent begins the last days (Heb 1:1) and the last days comprise the entire inter-advent era (Heb 9:26-28).
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Can non JWs be witnesses in a committee meeting?
by mickbobcat ini am not sure but i know where non jws have been brought in for a witness to a judicial meeting.
what is the official policy on this?
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I agree with nowwhat. If the elders did things according to the Society's rules, they will already have determined guilt or innocence before any JC is formed. So that the JC itself would be more akin to a sentencing hearing, where the elders are trying to determine if there is any reason for leniency. (Of course, there is an outside chance that new evidence presented during a JC might change presumed guilt to innocence. But that would be the exception rather than the rule. Any new evidence would probably be met with the elders wondering why you didn't present this evidence earlier.)
If the elders had determined that a person wasn't guilty of the alleged sin, then, there would be no JC formed. Any non-JW witnesses to the alleged 'crime' would have been heard from before the JC was formed.
And that's probably why non-JWs would most likely not be allowed into a JC. At that point they would only be seen as character witnesses. And the elders would have no use for such.
Of course, all that is assuming they were going by WT rules. That doesn't always happen. The WT and elders would probably not admit to this, but KS schools spend a lot of time dealing with JC issues where the elders didn't follow their rules.
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What Should Have Been Their "Surname" or "Last Name"?
by titch inok, folks, so here's my question.
now then, assuming that you believe that there was an actual first man and a first woman, as the bible propounds, that had the name of "adam" and "eve" (as we have called them, in the english language) well, what do you think that their surname or last name would have been, or should have been?
that is, if they had surnames way back then, in the so-called "beginning" of human existence?
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Using Luke 3:38 as the basis, in Greek Adam's full name would be, Ἀδὰμ τοῦ θεοῦ (Adam [son] of God). But in Hebrew it would be something like, 'Adam ben Elohim. Cain would be Qayin ben 'Adam.
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Search match
by Etude inis there a way to search topics where you and another user made comments?
i'm looking for the interaction i had with another user on several topics.. thanks.. etuce..
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Bobcat
You could try a site search:
From Google type site:www.jehovahs-witness.com etude bobcat
I did get one hit with this. But when I tried a couple of other names it didn't return anything. So maybe I am missing something or need to refine the search. But it is worth a try.
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Annual Meeting
by sove inis it the annual meeting this weekend?
any insights on "new light" or new releases?.
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They are almost through and nothing about locusts so far.
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Annual Meeting
by sove inis it the annual meeting this weekend?
any insights on "new light" or new releases?.
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Watchtower Admits To Using Your Family As a Pagan "Weapon" of Tyranny
by Sea Breeze in.... just 5 years after they wrote this, they started doing what they condemned!
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A Question For The Scholarly Re Gilgamesh
by jonahstourguide inhi all.. read this article re the gilgamesh clay tablet.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-21/us-returns-gilgamesh-tablet-to-iraq/100478858.
how does it impact the dating of the biblical flood?
it seems earlier.. i am going to do some research myself to make a comparison.. it's interesting as i have not previously heard of the tablet but have heard of the.
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Try this post (off-site). It posits a chronological model using the MT, but modified with the LXX, SP & Josephus where they differ for seven post flood patriarchs. The difference puts the flood back 650 years to 2953 BCE. (WT places the flood at 2370/69 BCE. But that is based on a 1513 BCE exodus and a 997 BCE split in the kingdom of Israel. Nor does it take into account any differences with LXX/SP/Josephus.)
The chart in the link is premised on an exodus date of 1446 BCE, and 430 years between the covenant with Abraham and the exodus. This places Jacob and his family in Egypt for 215 years (based on Ex 12:40-41 LXX/SP)
The post just before the linked one has a link to a population calculator that will allow playing with the numbers. A couple of factors that may skew the population calculator are the wider spread practice of polygamy and the longer lifespans reported in the Bible for the several centuries after the flood. These factors would tend to cause larger populations.
It is interesting how population growth is exponential in nature. Small increases in birth rates, over lengthy periods, can produce huge differences in population.
Just for some example numbers: You could start with 8 (post flood survivors), and about 400 years to the building of the tower at Babel. Or about 1500 years from the flood to the exodus. (The Torah reports roughly 600,000 grown men in the Israelite camp at the exodus.)
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Finally, Finally, - Editorial says Jehovah’s Witnesses elder did exactly the right thing by reporting to police.
by was a new boy in'unanswered questions — disturbing ones — surround the case of a former school health aide charged with three second-degree felony counts of molesting a child.. here’s what we know: santa fe police arrested 30-year-old robert apodaca in july over allegations he sexually abused a boy in 2019, including at the school nurse’s office at gonzales community school.. .
apodaca and the boy knew each other through the north santa fe congregation of jehovah’s witnesses.
an elder at the congregation reported apodaca to police after the family came to him in june.
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That was my first thought also. I imagine it would never have occurred to the newspaper to ask about that.
If the elder actually did that, he would be untrustworthy as far as WT is concerned.
My second thought was that this was arranged by WT for the elder to do this for PR purposes. That is, they wait for a case with circumstances that suit the Society and then have the elder report it to police just to show that they can do that.