this is the first time i've read through a watchtower magazine in about a year.
although i've been our only 8 months it really git me how crazy i must have sounded when i was a jw talking to non jws.. while other bible based religions talk about the 4 horsemen and back up their theories with other scriptures or historical evidence, the watchtower have taken so such steps.
1914 is thrown in there as if it's universally agreed that jesus started ruling since then.. even when i was a jw i never really understood why, if the pale horse represents jesus, why is he first?
Just watch the first 45 seconds of this video and it will blow the WT's 1914 ride of the 4 horseman out of the water. The 1st 45 seconds would be a good video clip to show a JW at the door with this magazine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSvfiQkC49s
They completely ignore centuries of history to have their own myopic fulfillment. They also completely ignore what the NT says about Jesus having ruling authority and a kingdom shortly after he was raised (Mt 28:18; Col 1:13; Heb 2:8-9)
hi everyone , how ya'll doin' ?
please could someone with a copy of the nwt help me out ?
and by extension help someone else out .
i was on a job last week and the p.o from my old congro was there and told me they had just re modled the k.h.the r.b.c quoted them $240.000 they did it for $120.000 so why the big diffrence in price??
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Besides the RBC/LDC misstep, I wonder about this. I believe anything over $5000 and the LDC takes over and makes all the decisions. I can't imagine a BOE getting away with doing a $120,000 project without the LDC - and that BOE still remaining as the BOE.
Besides that, all my experience with RBC/LDC was that they were always fantastically over priced.
i have a certain customer, whom we will call sally.
i know sally only by face and only through work.
i am a truck driver on a local dedicated route, and i often deliver to her work.
Their treatment of those who try to walk away becomes all the clearer after watching a few episodes of Leah Remini's Scientology program. The Scientologists are a few degrees more radical (IMO) than the JWs, but they all follow the same script.
I used to think calling JWs a cult was a bit over the top. But after watching this program I can see that the word fits.
necessary as it is at times, i hate this word.
for one thing, "ones" is a plural form of the number 1. that is dumb, and it's reason enough to avoid it where it isn't entirely necessary.. one could argue that it never is necessary, but it can still come up in colloquial dialogue when discussing objects.
jw leaders use it to discuss people.. interestingly, jws even did this to jesus christ in their own translation of the bible, referring to him in ephesians 1:7 with "through the blood of that one" where another translation would say something like "through his blood".
Where I grew up (NE US) we would say "yins" which (I think) is a contraction of "you ones," which has its counterpart in the south, "ya'll." It was a colloquial thing along with "gum band."
this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
Hi dropoff!
It looks like Cleveland is just a small rural town like Darien. I wonder if there is a pattern to that?
It is also amazing to me that the friends are, for the most part, oblivious to the whole scheme. Only what happens to them or if they hear about it in their own circuit or through friends. It kind of reminds me of a made-for-TV movie from a few years ago called "V" (for 'Visitors'). The visitors were taking all the water and depopulating the planet (for food) without most people being aware of what was going on.
I'm so completely disgusted with the WT! I wish I we're more mentally separated from it. But that's hard to do after so many decades.
this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
I wonder how they will 'sell' this to the community where the hall is being sold. Unless there are nearby halls to go to, it might appear that the JWs were pulling out of the community. Darien/Crescent Georgia (USA) has recently been informed that their congregation will be dissolved.
According to the "Articles of Association" which were voted on by 'owner' congregations a few years ago, the dissolving of the congregation sends the ownership of the hall to the WT, after all debts are cleared.
In the Crescent case, the JWs there will have to go either to Brunswick (~25 minutes) or Hinesville (~35-40 minutes through mostly wooded roads). Crescent has a lot of retired/older members. I wonder how they would go about inviting neighbors to a service when the closest hall is so far?
I have to agree with Hecce. The r&f seem to just take it in stride. When they announce it they also have a service talk encouraging everyone to take it as an arrangement of God.
this was always something i had trouble believing as i was growing up.
now i'm in my 30's i can see this will never happen.
even if the un the nwo whoever forces a global ban on religion.
Indeed, according to Revelation 18:9, 11 both "the kings of the earth" and "the merchants of the earth" weep over Babylon's sudden destruction.
Mike, out of curiosity, what "new light" would you expect about that?
this was always something i had trouble believing as i was growing up.
now i'm in my 30's i can see this will never happen.
even if the un the nwo whoever forces a global ban on religion.
Thanks VI
this was always something i had trouble believing as i was growing up.
now i'm in my 30's i can see this will never happen.
even if the un the nwo whoever forces a global ban on religion.
Hey prologos!
I agree that much of the WT's idea is based on some convoluted eisegesis. But many of the comments, that something like this can't happen, are based on the world continuing to be the world we are familiar with. I linked to the McCain video just to show that many see indications of a sea change in the way the world is presently ordered.
IMO, no single power (even one as powerful as the US, Russia or China) could accomplish such a thing. It would require at least two things: (1) Some form of unity among the major powers, and (2) some compelling reason, such as the unified powers seeing religion as a threat to their continued existence.
I agree that until those conditions are met, religion will continue to have some use to political governments.
