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  Who can guess the number closest to memorial partakers ?

  by Chook in

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  my punt 16144 , do you like my last three numbers !.

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  Bobcat

  When the WT says that many who partake are mentally unstable they are using a propaganda technique known as "framing an argument."

  They are, in effect, presenting an argument that has only two sides: You either have the WT's view of who should partake, or, you are mentally challenged in some way.

  What they NEVER mention is that many of those who now partake are doing so because they believe this is what Jesus wants all Christians to do. From the WT's perspective, such a view strikes at the heart of their authority structure and can never be acknowledged.

  IMO, the WT's 'mentally unstable' idea amounts to a deliberate lie which places them outside the very covenant they claim to be part of. (Rev 22:15)
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  Seed of mind-control could be seen in the word Amen

  by venus in

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  2. beliefs

  just like naming of days of the week and months are of astrological/pagan origin, the widely used word amen too is pagan, and has contributed to mind-control.. each time we say “amen” at the end of prayer we may think that we mean only "verily" and "truly".

  unfortunately, we overlook something very important.

  amen, amen-ra is the "most high" egyptian solar archetype [egyptian sun god, known as amun/amin/amen ra, meaning "the hidden god" and thus, the phrase "amen" would originally mean "let it remain hidden/secret."].

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  Bobcat

  BibleHub's Greek section says that the Greek ἀμήν is a transliteration of the Hebrew amen (such as is found at Num 5:22 and pronounced similarly).

  I kind of doubt that the God of Numbers, who ordered the destruction of everything pagan in the promised land, would agree with your derivation of the word.

  OTOH, unless one takes his saying "amen" to others prayers seriously, I could see it becoming a part of mind control, where one might automatically assent to things he might not otherwise have agreed to.
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  Faithful and discreet “slave” is very apt name!

  by venus in

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  i found it difficult to digest the word (“slave”) jesus supposedly used to refer to his appointees on earth to dispense spiritual food on earth.

  (mathew 24:45) why not a better word, something positive in view of the fact that jesus came to free us?

  freedom is the absence of physical and mental boundaries or restrictions.

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  "Slave" is apt considering the way society was in the ANE. Here is a comparison of the F&DS parable in the synoptic gospels. It show how much the WT distorts the context.
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  Judicial meeting questions.

  by Fader812 in

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  why do elders ask such perverted questions during judicial meetings?

  kinda creeped me out, actually creeped me out a lot.

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  Bobcat

  To be a little fair to the elders involved, they were more likely trying to determine if what you told them constituted "fornication" or "uncleanness" or "loose conduct" (now "brazenness"). The words have "overlapping" meaning (no pun intended). They have to do this so as to satisfy the legal (elder's) manual. It is somewhat an exercise in WT legalities.

  Usually at KS schools (and I think in the elder's book also) they are counseled to avoid asking detailed questions beyond what is necessary so as to determine the type of sin involved. But the definitions involved and the need impressed upon them to be correct in (WT imposed) detail and the fact that the CO will be reviewing the case within the next 6 months, all these things put pressure upon them in such a way that they often times go beyond what is seemly.

  If such things were not held in such secrecy, then human decency would probably prevail more often.
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  1914 is the Key !

  by Phizzy in

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  i thought this deserved its own topic.

  it is a thought that occurred to me as i read the wt rag that i took to be polite.. it is the public one about the 4 horseman, and it struck me that they are still 100% reliant on their false 1914 doctrine to hang everything on.. if 1914 is proved wrong, what can the credibility of their doomsday message hang on ?.

  we all know how to disprove the old 2520 years nonsense, but they seem to at last be hiding that, and simply claiming that world events prove jesus slung the devil out of heaven in 1914.. so, what has that old devil done since 1914, 103 years ago ?.

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  Hey Phizzy

  Someone mentioned GTR4 by Carl Olaf Jonsson. Here is an online copy. Scroll down a little for the chapter links.

  The thread I started here might provide a back door approach to 1914.

  The first 45 seconds of this video might also open some eyes to someone willing to think outside the WT box.
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  Why do the scan of all publications? To find "gems" like these

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  from a very obscure tract called "the broadcaster", july 13, 1925:.

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  Bobcat

  Hi ILoveTTATT2

  Is this a WT pub?
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  Watchtower Library Won't Run

  by sfbayarea in

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  2. friends

  i have 4 computers that are all running windows 10 version 1703.. 1. laptop that came with windows 10 was updated to version 1703 - watchtower library runs fine.

  2. laptop that came with windows 8 was updated to windows 10 for free - watchtower library runs fine.

  3. laptop that came with windows 7 64 home was updated to windows 10 for free - watchtower library does not run.

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  Bobcat

  Hey sfbayarea:

  If you would, keep us posted on what you find.

  I have a Win7 64 bit desktop. When I installed WTLib 2016 it installed and ran fine. But I had the auto update turned off. When I tried the manual update it downloaded the 178 mb package without a hitch. Then it asked me if I wanted to do the update. I said yes and it started to update. But then it stopped and said it ran into an unexpected problem. After this WTLib would no longer run. I would try to start it and it would say that it ran into an unexpected problem.

  So I uninstalled the program and tried to install from the DVD and the install stopped, saying there was an unexpected problem. I had to delete every Watchtower entry in the registry (with regedit) and then it would allow me to install again.
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  Best Link for WT Publications

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those who don't know:.

  here is the best site i know to get just about every wt and awake as well as books, all in pdf format.. http://avoidjw.org/magazines/.

  perhaps you have another one to suggest..

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  Bobcat

  Here is yet another link to WT pubs and stuff. I copied this from a link that member kairos made at the bottom of page 2 on this thread.

  I'm adding all these links here so as to have a sort of clearing house of links that I can go back to.
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  Best Link for WT Publications

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those who don't know:.

  here is the best site i know to get just about every wt and awake as well as books, all in pdf format.. http://avoidjw.org/magazines/.

  perhaps you have another one to suggest..

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  Bobcat

  And here is another with quite a bit of WT stuff.
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  Best Link for WT Publications

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those who don't know:.

  here is the best site i know to get just about every wt and awake as well as books, all in pdf format.. http://avoidjw.org/magazines/.

  perhaps you have another one to suggest..

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  Bobcat

  Yet another site here.