Posts by Bobcat

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JW babies don't always get blood transfusions

by OrphanCrow in

it is a common misconception that a jw baby who requires a blood transfusion will get one through a court order.

this does not always happen.. the following study demonstrates how a jw baby is vulnerable to being used for experimental procedures.. sn-mesoporphyrin interdiction of severe hyperbilirubinemia in jehovah's witness newborns as an alternative to exchange transfusion.. the condition that these two jw babies had was hyperbilirubinemia (jaundice).

in both cases, the parents refused to give permission for their babies to receive an exchange transfusion after the standard treatment of phototherapy didn't work.

Bobcat

So how did the babies do after the experimental treatment? Did they survive? Complications? Just curious.

Wait, I just checked the report in the link (silly me):

The 2 cases described in this report confirmed the efficacy of SnMP in terminating progression of hyperbilirubinemia in infants in whom phototherapy had failed to sufficiently control the problem and whose parents, for religious reasons, would not permit exchange transfusions. Interdiction of severe hyperbilirubinemia by inhibiting the production of bilirubin with SnMP can be an effective alternative to the use of exchange transfusion in the management of severe newborn jaundice that has not responded sufficiently to light treatment to ease concern about the development of bilirubin encephalopathy.

I'm glad it turned out well in their case.

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WT rules about forgiving a cheating spouse

by Addison0998 in

does anyone else think it’s weird and controlling the organization says if your mate commits adultry, and then you have sex with them, you are not free to remarry again, since this means you forgave them.

the bible never mentions anything about this.

it’s so weird they have a say about what goes on behind closed doors of two people who are still legally married.

Bobcat

Hi Addison,

This reminded me of the inconsistency of WT logic. For example, if an elder's child who lives at home gets DFed, the BOE is supposed to review that elder's qualifications to see whether he still qualifies to serve as an elder.

In one case I knew of, an elder's at home child got DFed. The BOE continued using the elder for some 5 months before the CO ordered them to meet with the elder to review him. In my mind the BOE did the same thing as the situation you described, and, logically, that should have cancelled out any review of the elder's qualifications. By continuing to use the elder for five months, their actions in effect said that the elder was still qualified to serve as an elder. But they don't see it that way.

And try using that example in the marriage infidelity example you gave. You won't get any where with the elders. Logic and fairness never win over following WT rules.

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Armageddon started...

by mikeflood in

just joking i really don't think so...but the situation in syria is pretty worrisome...just hearing the news that france and great britain are attacking with cruise missiles in 72 hours.

i mean assad is not gonna gasify his adversaries when he almost won the civil war.

trump too suspended a very important trip to the latinoamerican presidents summit in peru, just to 'oversee the american response to syria.

Bobcat

So maybe the Russians are really weak.

Not militarily, especially in a regional setting. If the US and Russia get to shooting at one another, regardless of who comes out ahead (if anyone), the US will get its nose bloodied. And that in itself may be very shocking to the US. The Russians are quite capable of doing that.

I wonder how the US public would deal with the sudden news of a sunken carrier or some other surface ships and maybe several thousand dead and wounded sailors from a single engagement? It would be a stunning blow to the public's perception of the US as the lone superpower.

Now whether Putin is willing to cross that line remains to be seen. I personally think he has reached the point, mentally, to take that step. And if he does, I think China will turn out to be a big ally for him. China could prevent the US from being able to concentrate forces in the Middle East by making threatening moves in the Pacific.

I don't see the US coming out ahead in this unless Putin simply backs off and lets the US have its way. But I just don't see that happening. Putin and the Russians are getting fed up with the US. It is a very volatile situation.

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Summary of WT Foundation Quotes

by Vanderhoven7 in

the watchtower, november 1, 1922, pp.332-337.

do you believe that the king of glory is present, and has been since 1874?… this is the day of all days.

behold, the king reigns!

Bobcat

Much thanks Doug for the additional information.

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Publisher ID: leaked video clip 3 of 4

by Fay Dehr in

"if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― george orwell, 1984 this video is leaked in interest of human dignity; you deserve to know who is keeping personal data and how they plan to expand their nets.

open to your comments... https://youtu.be/6hew6q7g1qs

[videos 1 to 4 leaked as own posts, with specific comments for each video].

Bobcat

This is interesting. From what he said and what the screen shows this might put all those brothers out of business who make computer programs to schedule the various meetings and duties. (A long time ago I made a program for the TMS - think DOS for how long ago.)

If so, then, the database is going to have to keep far more information than just 'name, rank, and serial number.' It will have to have fields/tables for whether one is an elder, ms, pioneer, etc.

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Summary of WT Foundation Quotes

by Vanderhoven7 in

the watchtower, november 1, 1922, pp.332-337.

do you believe that the king of glory is present, and has been since 1874?… this is the day of all days.

behold, the king reigns!

Bobcat

Hi Vanderhoven7,

On that first quote, I recognize the "Advertise . . ." part, but did not realize the quote included "1874" as part of it. The WT never quotes the 1874 part when they quote the "advertise, advertise, advertise" part.

Thanks for the list of 'famous last words.'

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Armageddon started...

by mikeflood in

just joking i really don't think so...but the situation in syria is pretty worrisome...just hearing the news that france and great britain are attacking with cruise missiles in 72 hours.

i mean assad is not gonna gasify his adversaries when he almost won the civil war.

trump too suspended a very important trip to the latinoamerican presidents summit in peru, just to 'oversee the american response to syria.

Bobcat

To me, what will be really interesting is what kind of defense Russia puts up for Syria against any sort of cruise missile and aerial assault. Russia has been claiming to have some very effective SAM and EW capability in place.

If there was an assault against Syria and suppose Russia effectively blunted it, there could be a significant shift in how the world views Russia vis-a-vis the West, and especially the US. On the other hand, if the strike was effective, Putin's claims about his new weapons systems (and thus his reputation) would take a hit.

Of course, the possibility of some sort of escalation between the West and Russia is also worrisome.

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Hotdog "rumour" - need verification

by Fay Dehr in

jw
friends

in view of the recent jw broadcast warning about "rumours", i wanted to verify what has repeatedly been spouted by a certain am3:.

"i saw bodies resembling human hotdogs" (or words to that effect).

i have no idea where to begin, so perhaps some of you across the pond in usa may know some useful search tools?

Bobcat

Try this link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0dI9OY_S4

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Another JDub fairy tail

by Sour Grapes in

now that the talks for this summer's conventions are available online i read through them and they could have been written in the early 70's...same thing no changes.. talk #50 "future events will require courage - the final test" illustrates how jdubs have lost so many brain cells by studying the watchtower and going to meetings that they will not even think about the reasonableness of what the speaker will be saying....they will just be a crowd of bobbleheads.. the outline says "at the end of christ's thousand year reign, satan will be released "for a little while".

the devil will convince some perfect humans to rebel.

" my question is how many is some?

Bobcat

Thank you Sour Grapes.

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Another JDub fairy tail

by Sour Grapes in

now that the talks for this summer's conventions are available online i read through them and they could have been written in the early 70's...same thing no changes.. talk #50 "future events will require courage - the final test" illustrates how jdubs have lost so many brain cells by studying the watchtower and going to meetings that they will not even think about the reasonableness of what the speaker will be saying....they will just be a crowd of bobbleheads.. the outline says "at the end of christ's thousand year reign, satan will be released "for a little while".

the devil will convince some perfect humans to rebel.

" my question is how many is some?

Bobcat

Is there a link to them? (the outlines) I'd like to take a gander. Thanks in advance.