Here is one simple fact which is very difficult for the gullible to accept:
Lee Harvey Oswald didnt shoot Kennedy all by himself.
i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.
i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.
i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.
Here is one simple fact which is very difficult for the gullible to accept:
Lee Harvey Oswald didnt shoot Kennedy all by himself.
i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.
i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.
i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.
Yeah thats an easy get out bohm, sarcasm and leaving the onus on me, why dont you give your counter arguments more credibility by purchasing the following books.
http://www.amazon.com/Churchill-Jews-A-Lifelong-Friendship/dp/0805078800 http://www.amazon.com/Churchills-Promised-Land-Statecraft-University/dp/0300116098/ref=pd_sim_b_5 As for your comments ignat, perhaps you could explain what you mean please? Reading books, we have no other option as we where not there, but these books do quote from material heald in archievs of the time. What do you mean by "critical thinking skills"?, I would have thought the very term would have backed up our side of the discussion, the ability to not just belive whet some with an agenda tell us, but to seek out alternative views and see if they fit in with the pattern of the world. Perhaps you could give some examples of what you mean?
i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.
i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.
i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.
http://uktv.co.uk/yesterday/item/aid/527978
I have too many books to spend my time searching through to do your research, and same as SnowQueen, it matters not to me really what you wish to belive, I just like to share the fact that their is another side to history that we are not told about, and to give you a few pointers to show you an alternative route you might wish to travel.
For instance, all I just did was google Churchill Gambling, and I came up with such as the above pro-Churchill link that confirms he was a gambler who had debts, so theres the first step for you, its easy if you want to.
i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.
i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.
i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.
SnowQueen: okay, lets just take your first major claim, " pretty much every major war since the French Revolution has been started on false pretences ". Lets just take WW2. The "official" causes from wikipedia is:
The main causes of World War II were nationalistic tensions, unresolved issues, and resentments resulting from the World War I and the interwar periodin Europe, plus the effects of the Great Depression in the 1930s.
The culmination of events that led to the outbreak of war are generally understood to be the 1939 invasion of Poland by Germany and Soviet Russia and the 1937 invasion of the Republic of China by the Empire of Japan.
These military aggressions were the result of decisions made by the authoritarian ruling Nazi elite in Germany and by the leadership of the Kwantung Armyin Japan. World War II started after these aggressive actions were met with an official declaration of war and/or armed resistance.
So I guess we can both agree the above is all factually accurate, but I understand you to say the above is not the cause at all. What exactly do you suggest, what is your evidence and which sources did you investigate which was critical of that conclusion?
Wrote bohm,
Whilst I cannot write a whole book here and the historical references of such, I will give you a few snippets that if you are genuinely interested, rather than just wishing to maintain the current world view you have been indoctrinated with, you can do further research at your own time and expense, for there are indeed lots of history books that back SnowQueens claims.
The first world war wasnt "won" by Britain and her allies by millitary means, but by deciept. A laying down of arms was suggested called the Armastice and the 14 point plan, Germany laid down her arms first, but then, and as we did with the Arabs over Palestine, we decieved Germany and as soon as She was unarmed, we didnt uphold our part of the bargain with the 14 point plan, but imposed the horrific Treaty of Versaillies on her, which incidently, the likes of David Lloyd George and I belive Woodrow Wilson claimed was far too harsh and would lead to the problems it did.
It was reported by David Lloyd George that 120 international bankers ruled over the proccedings at Versaillies, "with the absolute authority of Monarchs" rev 17 v v 18.
One result of the treaty of Versaillies is the huge proportion of Germany that was taken from her and given to surrounding nations whilst still inhabitated by Germans, West Prussia being given to Poland a prime example, if you go on Amazon and search for the book, "Orphans of Versaillies" by Richard Blanke you will find a source of reference showing Polands delberate ethnic cleansing methods of West Prussia to drive the Prussians out so it could be taken over purly by Poles, I see this book, which I have, now costs £71 second hand so wouldnt expect you to purchace it.
What I can report is that My family, on my Fathers side, is West Prussian, and personaly experienced being driven out by the Poles and losing our Horse farm. Later on, the persecution got worst and worst until manifesting itself in the form of murder and a certain government official, calling for the castration of all German men in order to rid Poland of what was now an ethnic minority.
All the above however, whilst giving Hitler a good and legitimate excuse to invade Poland, was not used, in fact he volunteered accepting the new borders and letting Poland keep West Prussia, all he wanted from Poland was a rail route to East Prussia, and the free city of Danzig, which was 98% German, to be allowed to rejoin Germany, oh, and he wanted a treaty with Poland against the threat of Russia and communism.
However, on the allies side, we have this, Winston Churchill, and Lord Halifax, stating as far back as 1933 that Germany must be destroyed before it becomes too powerfull, you could buy yourself a book on Churchills speeches to see who the driving force behind WW2 was.
International Jewry declared war on Germany in 1933, Google "Jews declare war on Germany".
Churchill, who was outspokenly anti-semetic as the rest of them, certainly switched sides once a Jewish banker paid off his gambling debts.
Now Poland, which was described by one British historian as a Canary that keeps trying to eat two cats, (Germany and Russia), has notions of the establishment of a greater Poland going all the way to Berlin, Britain, France and America gave assurances to Poland that if there was ever military action between Germany and Poland, Britian would give Poland a "blank cheque", Poland then, armed with such backing and the overconfidence in her own military, was used by the West to push Hitler into the war that he didnt want, and tried on numerous occassions to avoid, but that the West did want.
Poland, in order to provoke war, was blockading and starving the people of Danzig, they gave Germany the warning that if she even tried to provide food for Danzig, it would be taken as millitary action and lead to war.
Like I say, I cannot write a book here, but there is enough material to do so, all pointing to the same group of people who do not want any country to grow strong that they do not control.
You can see the West using exactly the same tactics now on the Middle East where they arm insurgents in Libya and Syria, encourage them to attack their governments, and then use said governments defence as an Propogander device as the excuse to go to war and take yet another country under the control of the international bankers or Babylon the Great.
1260 days (dan 12:7).
1335 days (dan 12:12).
1260 days (dan 12:7).
7. If these 'days' were so important that Daniel had an angel read them out to him, why have those dates now passed with so little importance, impact or relevance?
Its because they have nothing to do with the JWs, the JWs just use them to try and make people think they have fullfilled Bible prophesy.
In fact they havnt happened yet, the 1260 days are the same days as the 42 month or 3 1/2 year rulership of the Global Government that prevents any form of practising Christianity and kills all those that do not support it or except its 666 mark, none of which have happened yet.
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Why has that site got 14 trackers according to Ghostery?
the symbol of the hexagram, the star-like figure formed by two triangles, has many connotations, especially when it is enclosed by a circle; super-natural powers have been attributed to it in many parts of the world since ancient times.. .
in europe, the pentagram is usually known as king solomon's seal, while the hexagram is known as the star of david; and it is often assumed that this was always the case..... .
however, the evidence points to the gradual evolution of the hexagram from a roman cosmological symbol to a religious and magical symbol which was not specifically connected to one religion or people.
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The way I've heard it is this...
The hexagram is actually two triangles overlaid, which represents the sexual union of the male (triangle pointing up) with the female (triangle pointing down)...
The pubic area on females has long been represented as an inverted triangle - far into prehistory, so that connection is pretty clear...
The triangle pointing up is supposedly a phallic symbol - but at this moment I don't have time to pull any references..." Said Zid,
I was just about to post the very same thing.
All I can add to your statement is that it also represents the sexual union between man and the gods, think of the Nephalim.
The man part of the Star is the pyramid that points up, you will see this in a lot of places dominated by Israel, such as banking, have a look on the back of your dollar, have a look at the Rothschild Israeli supreme court from the air, the whole New World Order sign of the pyramid is half the sign of this Satanic sexual union.
Theres also a scripture somewhere where God is condeming the Isrealities and is mentioned "the disgusting Star of their god...." whilst the form of this star in the OT isnt given, I wonder if its the same star of modern Israel?, would certainly explain why its found on old Hebrew graves.
not to sound like the gloom and doom cult we were apart,.
but are we heading for an collapse in our society?.
iam sure we all are familiar with the signs that bring about.
Countries have been bankrupted many times in the past. Only a fool would think this is all new. Take alook at late 1700s in France. They had a financial crisis just before everything exploded and the revolution began. (Wrote MP).
And what was the result of the French revolution MP?
The same result as most banker sponsored revolutions.
That is, the fall of a monachy with its ruling family that is very hard to get into a position of power with, to be replaced by so called democracy where the man with the most money can easily buy his way to a position of great power, or to buy the control of government.
Does it not occur to you that yes there has been financial crisis, but such crisis seemed to benifit a certain group of people that where in a position to engineer that crisis in the first place?
Maybe as more Witnesses get to read John Chapter 6 the figures go up, and then maybe they leave their Bibles open on the relevant page on the coffee table and other Witnesses see it and say, "hey, why have I never seen that before?, I didnt even know there was a John Chapter 6, I thought it went from 5 to 7.
Soon they will have to bring the wine in by the crate each memorial, hey!, maybe thats the reason they tell people they mustnt drink Jesus blood?
for those who are interested, the november 2012 awake!
is now available for download online.. among items of possible interest are some of the latest examples of fear-mongering "armageddon art" on pages 12 and 14.... .
speaking of armageddon, you will be sad to hear that the criteria for surviving the great day of god's wrath just got a little more stringent.. there are a number of extra things in this month's awake!
Actually, they are, or at least were, correct about the dangers of heading a soccer ball, except both they and the recent research are 40 years out of date, I remember this being addressed at least 40 years ago, back then however, footballs were footballs, not the ballons they have now where the slightest kick sends the ball across the pitch, back then balls where made of thick leather and had a rubber bladder inside, when that ball got wet, it weighed a ton and would indeed put a great strain on the brain with constant heading.
Nowadays I wouldnt think there was hardly such a danger.
Back then if you could kick that ball across the penalty box your name was Peter Lorimer.