Posts by Tylinbrando

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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd

by Recovery in

jwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.

i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.

1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.

Tylinbrando

I think he is close to the GO or the writing department.

Recovery is an average minded doctrinal/semantics debater using this forum to fulfill his service hour requirements for his "pioneer" status. He has justified somehow in his mind he has special circumstances that allow him to assosciate with apostates. A direct violation and disfellowshipping offense by the very organization he defends.

I believe Recovery will be the first to admit he is not as brilliant as some of you give him credit for, nor is he anywhere close to anyone on/in the GB or WD. I would venture to guess Recovery is probably not an identifiable fixture even in his local congregation.

At least he stirs the pot here a little.

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HELP please! archives of old WT missing?

by EndofMysteries in

i just bumped an old thread, that had each year from 1800's to like 1950's of the wt magazines, the links now say the pages are missing.

please let them be somewhere else.

i really need them, it's super important, and something everyone will benefit tremendously from when i'm done!.

Tylinbrando

Marking for later. Thanks.

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My Baptism Story

by DT in

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i have been thinking about how the events surrounding my baptism may be of some interest to this board, so here is my story.. i began to talk about baptism when i was seven, but nobody took me seriously.

i let the matter drop until i was ten.

i was persistent this time so arrangements were made for the elders to go over the questions with me.. at the time, it was customary for baptismal candidates to study the live forever and united in worship books.

Tylinbrando

I was baptized young and experienced similar stories as you. I remember feeling guilty as the pioneer sisters laughingly and lovingly allowed me to "lead" them.

Someone dropped the ball on letting you know you qualified. When you got into trouble you could have mentioned your baptism was probably not valid.

You willfully disassociated yourself or did you get disfellowshipped?

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Dear Recovery...

by OneDayillBeFree in

it is 3am here and i just finished reading your last post and even though i have to be up at 6am tomorrow morning (technically later), i felt obligated to login to jwn and write to you.

i thought about saying many things.

hurtful things.

Tylinbrando

Recovery claims to be a pioneer. This clears up many things. Recovery is probably a recluse or shut in whos eccentricities have alienated him from the congregation. How much easier it is to sit behind the computer and self generate hours of "service" with debatable bombshells of doctrine.

Well done Recovery. I knew many pioneers that were never at the meeting for feild service on any day of the week. I loved the ministry but it would drive me crazy wondering how they achieved their service hours so easily when I never saw them sharing in the door to door ministry with others of us who were pioneering or taking the lead as shepherds. Not once would they check out territory cards like the rest of their fellow pioneers.

Perhaps you suffer from a disability or are advanced in age and that prevents you from engaging in the "field ministry" How clever of you to enter a pit of vipers where you can charm them with a flute and continue to log in hours and hours of meaningless debate. All so you can lay hold to your claim of special service.

By your very actions in dancing with this forum you show your disregard for the direction of the Faithful and Discreet Slave.

You may justify your rhetoric as defending "the truth" but that truth has already reserved a spot for you in everlasting cutting off. It is only a matter of time before Jehovah excises you like the blasphemous cancer you display with your words and actions.

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Dear Recovery...

by OneDayillBeFree in

it is 3am here and i just finished reading your last post and even though i have to be up at 6am tomorrow morning (technically later), i felt obligated to login to jwn and write to you.

i thought about saying many things.

hurtful things.

Tylinbrando

Imagine a brother or a sister knocking on a door of a poster here who has printed all of your major arguments and all of the hurtful and sarcastic comments you have made and shown them to our brothers.

Which clearly illustrates the fact that any active Jehovah's Witness would clearly recognize and categorize Recovery as an "apostate" regardless of his apologist stance and rhetoric.

Recovery justifies his participation here as making a defense for his faith but in doing so he clearly states his disregard for the basic premise of following the leadings of Jehovah, Jesus and the Faithful and Discreet Slave Class.

Recovery has constituted himself as a dissenter and disbeliever in the authority of the very religion he strives so diligently to defend here. It is pitiable.

He is completely lost and wasting his time defending his personal belief system when that personal belief system has already judged him and cut him off.

Poor Recovery, if armeggedon was to come this very day, according to the religion he so passionately defends, he is going to be first in line for EVERLASTING destruction.

How does he live with himself? (Or herself I suppose.)

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How did you feel when you first celebrated Halloween or Christmas

by trujw in

with the holidays amongsts us how did you feel the first time you celebrated the holidays?

the first time i felt like i was in north korea trying to slip pass the secret police.

how weird a wonderful family holiday and i was acting like i just stole the mona lisa..

Tylinbrando

It was highly enjoyable for my non JW family and my 4 children. It was theraputic for me and them. As a born in I felt I was recapturing some of the childhood I lost. I also enjoyed watching current JWs drive by my home rubbernecking at the decorations with disgust and jealousy at the same time. Its funny, the holidays are pretty lame when scrutinized and dissected, but let me tell you, the laughter and happiness and joy expressed by children at these occasions is all that matters. To me. It is a joy upon little faces that I promise you I have never seen in the years I spent as a Watchtower Clone. I did it for my children but found it was even more beneficial for myself. If it is a question of guilt, no, I felt no guilt. But I had spent 40 years developing a resistance to the effects of guilt at the hands of a very indoctrinated mother and others.

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I wonder... Who are the top apostates the Watchtower HATES the most?

by Greybeard in

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no doubt ray franz is at the top.... paul grundy's web site jwfacts.com helped me the most!

thanks paul!!!.

randall watters from freeminds.org has got to be way up there.... who else?

Tylinbrando

Need to bookmark as I have a lot of catching up to do.......

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Apostasy Trial - Part 6 It's finally all online...

by RayPublisher in

the entire saga, all 3 hours are now online.

this last one took hours and hours to edit and i am so glad it is done.

(although i still have the behind the scenes footage to put up on how i did the hidden camera lol!

Tylinbrando

Eric, you handled yourself with intelligence, forethought, and dignity. You were also respectful and moving.

You reached those men in a profound way. You gave them an experience that more than likely they will never have again and it will last in their mind until their deaths. Sharing these videos is going to have monumental effects on hundreds, maybe thousands because of your efforts to make it so.

The prayer at the end given by you was such a pleasant surprise and was the golden moment and the perfect conclusion to your epic journey in the "star chamber"

Thank you again for what you have made available for the world to see.

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when using JW literature in a court setting......

by outsmartthesystem in

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such as the "school brochure" and the "mentally diseased apostates" mag.........do you need to have original copies?

or will a copy and paste straight from the cd rom work?

.

Tylinbrando

If you are at trial and the documentation has been allowed for exhibit, actual copies will be more compelling. If you are at hearings or mediation, your copies will be adequate for discussion and examination. Be extremely selective on what you use and how you use it if you reach a settlement hearing. Attacks on religious practices and beliefs specifically regarding the upbringing of children seldom go very far with senior lawyers, commisioners or judges. Unless, of course, you can prove those practices are not in the best interests of the child. A task that can be extremely difficult in front of a Mediator or Judge that may or may not be having a bad day. Religion should be the last line of defense or attack IMO.

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Fb status of a Young JW Mom. Sooo Sick!

by 3dogs1husband in

can't believe that we made it through the whole assembly, **** wasn't feeling good last night, has a cold, was pretty cranky, then he seemed fine and minutes later im making a bowl with my hands for him to throw up in while we are sitting (the joys of parenthood) then into a plastic bag, then very quickly ran to the bathroom for even more throwing up, but suprisingly we stayed for the rest of the day.

trying to think of a response.

i am not "out" on fb soooo sick from this i wanna throw up myself...poor children!.

Tylinbrando

Bobbi, malls are really fun for kids especially with the bribes of ice cream and train rides. Meetings still suck for kids no matter what bribes used to get them there. Sheesh give em a break when they get sick at least. No wonder more and more JWs are losing custody for "negligence". When meeting attendance takes precedence over health, homework and happiness, it's easy for social workers to do their work in the best interests of children. Don't drink the kool aid.